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New eMacs Too...

A first I thought this was a terrible update but I was pleased with the graphics card update. Some people also feel cheated if they buy a computer and it doesn't have a mouse and keyboard. I prefer the Mini but I can see that the eMac's audience is different than the mini.

It seems like small minor upgrades each year is the new norm.
 
Minor updates the norm

A first I thought this was a terrible update but I was pleased with the graphics card update. Some people also feel cheated if they buy a computer and it doesn't have a mouse and keyboard. I prefer the Mini but I can see that the eMac's audience is different than the mini.

It seems like small minor upgrades each year is the new norm.
 
Small, minor upgrades will only be the norm, I think, until they have gotten past the G5 yield/heat problems with either the supposed GX/MP, or with a Power 5 derivative.
Once that happens, I think we'll see some substantial updates across the board (probably not @ the same time, though).
Until then, I will enjoy my new dual 2.3 G5 (arriving today). 😀
 
legalnut said:
the low end should be $499 and the high end $699 ... have they looked at what that kind of money will get you in the PC biz these days ?
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I think I'm fairly balanced about PCs vs. Macs, and I would not take the risk of getting one of those low end PCs because of poor quality and not being given an OS disk. Based on the experience of friends, I concluded that the eMac is built to last. And it's quiet too.
 
so I guess what will be the next updates (soon to arrive I guess)

Mac mini & iBook getting 64vram to enable core image

iBook getting BT2.0 option

and maybe PowerBook/iBook SuperDrive option will allso go 8x with DL support...

and maybe a small speedbump in the processors, but minor...

might be the Mac mini will remain as it is, no update for the graphics at all... but I doubt that, this is the year of HD & Tiger, and selling new Macs without coreimage support now that tiger is standard kinda sounds weird...

I think they would like all new macs up to date for Tiger, and if your old mac isn't well you buy a new (they hope)
 
hvfsl said:
With new PMs, iMacs and eMacs, it will be interesting to see what they release at WWDC. The only thing I can think of is new iPods. The PowerBooks and iBooks were updated not too long ago and the Mac mini is only a few months old.
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dual dual core although they probably won't "release" it until August or worse!
 
Good to see the eMac is still around. I don't think another computer is as good for elementary schools. You know kids bang on the monitor with fingers, pencils, etc. That glass screen must really help with this.
 
legalnut said:
After a cursory search on Dell's site this is what I came up with...

Dimension 3000
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (2.80GHz, 533 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Free 15" Flat Panel - Online Only!
FREE (3-5 Day) Shipping with System purchase - Online Only!
FREE Memory Upgrade to 512MB!
FREE 80GB Hard Drive Upgrade!
FREE Dell 720 Printer or Upgrade to a Photo All-in-One for as low as $35!
Featured at

$699
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One problem with your analysis, you have Windows XP Home Edition as the OS. If you were to compare Windows XP Home Edition or Professional Edition to Mac OS X Tiger then the only fair comparison is with the Windows Professional Package. Windows XP Professional retails for about $199 the home edition retails for $99. Also, Tiger comes with Xcode developer tools for free. Microsoft's developer package Visual Studio Professional is $799. Plus, Apple throws in iLife '05 for free. The only comparable software package for the Windows world is (formerly) Roxio Easy Media Creator which goes for $99. And and ATI 9600 Graphics card at $155 and we have a machine that will have:

Featured at Dimension 3000
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (2.80GHz, 533 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® Professional Edition
FREE Memory Upgrade to 512MB
FREE 80GB Hard Drive Upgrade
FREE Dell 720 Printer or Upgrade to a Photo All-in-One for as low as $35
Single Drive: 48x CD-RW / DVD-ROM Combo Drive

For $589, but you need to add the extras

Microsoft Visual Studio Professional (+ $799)
Roxio Easy Media Creator (+$99)
ATI Radeon 9600 Graphics Card (+ $155)

Grand Total:
$1642

Note: The addition of Microsoft Visual Studio Professional to the package is not unfair, since Apple provides their Xcode development suite with all versions of Tiger it is only fair that we calculate the comparable Microsoft suite in with all Windows PC's. Whether it is used or unused by the owner is not in question, only what comes with the hardware and software.
 
Chaszmyr said:
Eep, I'd take a low-end iMac over an eMac without question. Buy the time you upgrade the eMacs RAM and such, it's not THAT much less money, but it's a whole lot less computer
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Emac=mac mini with all the extras that you need to buy to make the mini work.
 
zac4mac said:
I'm not expecting major PB updates anytime soon. Freescale is in the early phases of debugging the 8641. Still on the single core, no news yet of a real silicon dual core(my contact is midway in the foodchain in Austin). Good news is the single lit up right away, first batch booted OS X. I'm told that's rare. Still looks like late this year, early next for a dual core PB. I just hope it really happens and doesn't come so late it gets shelved like Moto's G5.

Z
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Single-core Freescale G4 for next iBooks, dual-core Freescale G4 for next PowerBook? That'd be cool! (single-core Freescale G4 for next Mac mini and next eMac too, I guess)
 
joeboy_45101 said:
Featured at Dimension 3000
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (2.80GHz, 533 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® Professional Edition
FREE Memory Upgrade to 512MB
FREE 80GB Hard Drive Upgrade
FREE Dell 720 Printer or Upgrade to a Photo All-in-One for as low as $35
Single Drive: 48x CD-RW / DVD-ROM Combo Drive

For $589, but you need to add the extras

Microsoft Visual Studio Professional (+ $799)
Roxio Easy Media Creator (+$99)
ATI Radeon 9600 Graphics Card (+ $155)

Grand Total:
$1642
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Don't forget the anti-virus and anti-spyware software, the time spent doing deep scans of your hard drive, and the lack of peace of mind from the risk that you could be compromised!
 
woowoo

$100 less in canada for the upgraded iMac with more ram, larger HD, BT, airport WooWoo Just ordered mine and it will be here in 2 weeks.
 
wwdc

i guess with all the current hardware updated, steve will need to announce new hardware. sweet!

let's see:
jam box audio and hdtv integration with sweet capture, recording, and playback features (give me a reason to want the 400gb hardrive on that new imac!)

oh... and color screens on the ipods. i know that's what all of you are waiting for.
 
eMac

I think it's a really good update. The eMac is not really a slouch. With the 1.42 G4 and now the updated video it's now capable of running pretty much any current game out there.

I wont rehash the hidden values of Mac software, but by now everyone should know that the value of a Mac is not really in its hardware.

The software that comes with a Mac would easily cost you $1000 to replace in the PC world. I've had numerous PCs and in the rare instances I bought a brand new one, the software that came with it was typically crippleware, time limited, or nagware. Apple doesn't put such garbage on their machines.
 
kirk26 said:
Emac=mac mini with all the extras that you need to buy to make the mini work.
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You can have two displays with the eMac, but it steals you space for a better monitor if you want only one.
 
This is actually a much better computer then the Mini now. Faster Core Image compatible graphics, faster HD, etc. My guess is that performance wise this eMac will crush the Mini and if you have to buy a monitor and keyboard/mouse then the price works out in the eMac's favor. Nice update, but everyone knows they could have easily put the 1.67Ghz chip in here to make it an even better buy. No reason to hold it back.
 
JRM PowerPod said:
MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION

Brilliant OS, that's all i say.

I wonder how you would feel owning a crippled version of a really ^$%* OS.
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Pretty Good since with the money I saved on the pizza box laptop after spending so long in "parking" for a decent PB revision I can buy a Mini insterad and have both
 
powerbooks...

So now the 12" powerbook video card is worse than all the desktop models (other than the mini)...even the consumer emac.
 
I'm impressed by the graphics card update (is the 9600 better than the 5200 in the bottom of the line Powermac?). The rest is underwhelming, but in total it's pretty nice. The graphics card alone makes this a better buy than the mini right now, but as others have pointed out, if you buy a mini and a nice monitor, in two years you can buy a new mini and keep the monitor you already have.

I hope, and imagine, the next mini update will bring it back in line with the eMac specs, especially the graphics card. I also hope they change the memory configuration to 256 (or 512) on board plus one free slot.
 
Hiroshige said:
Don't forget the anti-virus and anti-spyware software, the time spent doing deep scans of your hard drive, and the lack of peace of mind from the risk that you could be compromised!
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What the hell are you talking about? I've used Windows XP sine it's came out and have never gotten a virus. I've done this simply by not opening attachments that seem fishy. And Spyware? Now that Firefox has near 10% marketshare there is no reason to even use Internet Explorer anymore. And if you absolutly need IE then Microsoft also has their own Anti-spyware that's FREE from their webpage, and it's actually very good.

But not only that but Most Dell's come with free firewall/virus software.
 
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