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liketom said:
It would be so nice if the Apple store went down again at 9am PST. Only 30 mins to go. Let's hope
Hmmmm.... eMac, eh?
I never really considered getting an eMac, but at that price I must admit I'm tempted to upgrame my Umax SuperMac...
I never really considered getting an eMac, but at that price I must admit I'm tempted to upgrame my Umax SuperMac...
This eMac is so very nice, I would argue that it competes very well with even Dell in terms of price. $1000 buys a Dell that has a better video card, but can't write optical media, and has a separate tower and monitor taking up far more space than the eMac all-in-one solution.
Go Apple for competing with Dell on price!
Go Apple for competing with Dell on price!
stoid said:
Thats just it. the demographice for the emac line is cheap so its cheap. Yet the Pb line demogrpahic is of a higher spending bracket, so despite the facts that there is VERY little difference between the machines, they charge more to the pro line users.
Its truly offensive to me.
Le Big Mac said:
they are first-to be updated, not in anything.
liketom said:
Not today...too late for a media release. Everyone needs to remember that they usually release info to the media early to get interest.
From the PR newswire site
TUE Apr 13, 04, 8:30 AM
Apple Announces a Faster, More Affordable eMac
MON Apr 12, 04, 8:04 AM
PowerSchool Announces Version 2004
THU Mar 25, 04, 8:31 AM
Apple Moves iPod mini Worldwide Availability to July
WED Mar 24, 04, 6:00 PM
FileMaker Pro 7 Experience Now a Free Download
TUE Mar 23, 04, 8:31 AM
Apple Begins Shipping Xserve G5 to Customers
MON Mar 15, 04, 8:32 AM
iTunes Music Store Downloads Top 50 Million Songs
See, almost all of them are before 8:30 a.m. eastern. The only time they are not around 8:30 ish is when there is an event (Macworld, etc.) I doubt we'll see another update today (I wish we would though).
Cheers,
hughdogg
I guess you shouldn't take offense anyway. You have been reading and posting on these forums, so you should be (and I'm sure you are) perfectly aware that PBs (among others) are to be updated soon. When? I wouldn't know. But what can I say. You took a risk. Deal with it and chill. Maybe the PBs won't be updated for another 2 months (I sincerely hope not) and your investment will prove wise...a17inchFuture said:
Flyers486 said:
that would be a shame - i love the imac and i am still lusting for a single g5, 20' version. i am ready to order, >polishes amex<
a17inchFuture said:
Call it a hunch, but I think that Apple IS working on faster PowerBooks. However, working out new laptop technology has many more hurdles than desktop technology. I realize that the PowerBooks might be a bit underpowered and overpriced, but I'm not going to begrudge Apple releasing new models of one line as they continue to work on others. That kind of attitude sounds like a very young child who is jealous that their little sibling got a better birthday present or something. Grow up and understand that Apple doesn't control the laws of physics and is trying to make money by release new products as quickly and economically as possible.
NAB is a pro show so don't expect iMacs which are consumer machines to be introed there. There will be some new software from Apple and others at NAB and possibly an speed bump on the Powerbooks. It looks like the next iMac will be a revised form factor so I don't think we'll see a website-only posting. A special event would probably be in order.
That's awesome! I really need a new ipod for my video editing, music production and photoshop! I mean...my 7 month old 30 gig is starting to run out of CPU power (sarcasm intended).bar italia said:
The upgrade in video card is nice, though it would have been nice to give a 64MB option. Still big improvement over the previous Radeon 7500.
This is also using the 130nm Moto G4 chip. The iMac used the old 180nm chips. If you look at the tech specs, you'll see the eMac has 512K L2 cache vs. the iMac's 256K L2.
The 8x Superdrive is the kicker. This machine is actually a good deal at $999. Throw 1GB of RAM in it and it should move pretty fast. I agree, it'd be nice to just have a desktop offering with these specs, maybe dropping $100-$150 off the price, but definitely a nice purchase for schools.
This is also using the 130nm Moto G4 chip. The iMac used the old 180nm chips. If you look at the tech specs, you'll see the eMac has 512K L2 cache vs. the iMac's 256K L2.
The 8x Superdrive is the kicker. This machine is actually a good deal at $999. Throw 1GB of RAM in it and it should move pretty fast. I agree, it'd be nice to just have a desktop offering with these specs, maybe dropping $100-$150 off the price, but definitely a nice purchase for schools.
Just about the whole line is due for an update. So complaining as soon as an update occurs is silly. I recommend that anyone who buys a new Mac and still hangs out at a rumor site must be masochistic.
I wish they had updated the G5 -- but I'll take anything at this point. I just wish Apple would give us some guidance on their relationship with IBM to reassure both their customers and their stockholders that everything is OK. (maybe tomorrow during the conference call)
I wish they had updated the G5 -- but I'll take anything at this point. I just wish Apple would give us some guidance on their relationship with IBM to reassure both their customers and their stockholders that everything is OK. (maybe tomorrow during the conference call)
stoid said:
You must know some intelligent "very young children", because I thought I was making sound arguments based on fact, not acting like a child.
Oh, and simply because I choose to use profanity doesnt make me a child, so beyond that I can't imagine what would lead you to that comparison.
Product announcements...
With the eMac announcements made today I think you will probably see the following in the next week or two:
Powerbooks will be speed bumped. The 12" will jump to 1.25GHz, the 15" to 1.25GHz combo/1.33GHz superdrive and the 17" to 1.42GHz. You may or may not see faster HD's or Optical drives. I don't expect to see in new tech or price reductions.
iBooks...I wouldn't be surprised to see the entry level price drop to $999 with a small shift in processor speeds.
iMacs...probably the iMac 17" and 20" will be speed bumped to 1.42GHz and faster super drives. The 15" iMac may go away but not before the price is reduced (I would guess to about $1099) in its current configuration. Look for the 15" to be discontinued completely by the Fall. I would expect price reductions of the 20" to $1999 and the 17" to $1599. Again, no real new technology introduced with these systems.
Powermac G4 will probably be discontinued with no replacement. OS9 is done. Apple will sell through inventory.
Powermac G5...As usual, the high end becomes the midrange so we may likely see the entry level become a single processor 1.8Ghz, mid-range will be the dual 2GHz, and the high end likely to be either a dual 2.2or 2.5GHz machine. It would be nice to see pricing slide down by $200 per machine. $1599/$2299/$2799. Again, faster DVD burners for all, 512Mb standard w/160Gb SATA HD's.
I'd love to see a small footprint G5...a headless iMac if you will with a single PCI slot priced at $1299 (G5 1.6GHz).
Displays. Don't expect price reductions on the displays. They are already price/feature competitive with anything else in the analog LCD world at these sizes let alone the quality. Certainly we will see an aluminum redesign. We also might see a 17" wide screen replace the current 17" and the addition of the long rumored 30". I would guess this would be priced at $3499. It would be great to see DVI models as well. I would love to be able to have 2 apple displays connected without a DVI/ADC adapter. Wall mount would be a nice option too.
Finally, wouldn't an Appleworks that was more tightly integrated with the iApps be nice? I bet we see this updated before too long with a possible name change to iWorks.
With the eMac announcements made today I think you will probably see the following in the next week or two:
Powerbooks will be speed bumped. The 12" will jump to 1.25GHz, the 15" to 1.25GHz combo/1.33GHz superdrive and the 17" to 1.42GHz. You may or may not see faster HD's or Optical drives. I don't expect to see in new tech or price reductions.
iBooks...I wouldn't be surprised to see the entry level price drop to $999 with a small shift in processor speeds.
iMacs...probably the iMac 17" and 20" will be speed bumped to 1.42GHz and faster super drives. The 15" iMac may go away but not before the price is reduced (I would guess to about $1099) in its current configuration. Look for the 15" to be discontinued completely by the Fall. I would expect price reductions of the 20" to $1999 and the 17" to $1599. Again, no real new technology introduced with these systems.
Powermac G4 will probably be discontinued with no replacement. OS9 is done. Apple will sell through inventory.
Powermac G5...As usual, the high end becomes the midrange so we may likely see the entry level become a single processor 1.8Ghz, mid-range will be the dual 2GHz, and the high end likely to be either a dual 2.2or 2.5GHz machine. It would be nice to see pricing slide down by $200 per machine. $1599/$2299/$2799. Again, faster DVD burners for all, 512Mb standard w/160Gb SATA HD's.
I'd love to see a small footprint G5...a headless iMac if you will with a single PCI slot priced at $1299 (G5 1.6GHz).
Displays. Don't expect price reductions on the displays. They are already price/feature competitive with anything else in the analog LCD world at these sizes let alone the quality. Certainly we will see an aluminum redesign. We also might see a 17" wide screen replace the current 17" and the addition of the long rumored 30". I would guess this would be priced at $3499. It would be great to see DVI models as well. I would love to be able to have 2 apple displays connected without a DVI/ADC adapter. Wall mount would be a nice option too.
Finally, wouldn't an Appleworks that was more tightly integrated with the iApps be nice? I bet we see this updated before too long with a possible name change to iWorks.
RJWP said:
At the moment, it's very easy.
Of the rumor dedicated sites out there... there are only 3 worth following:
MacRumors
AppleInsider
ThinkSecret
I'll refrain from rating MacRumors, since I may be biased... but ThinkSecret ranks higher than Appleinsider.
All other rumor dedicated sites are not worth reading since the others are either always wrong or make up rumors to draw traffic.
arn
I don't know what to say. It is a great machine for the price, but now my eMac isn't top of the line anymore. But good for Apple, this is what hapens when you buy a computer. Oh well. I wish I could sell this one and buy the new cheaper one, then buy an external hard drive for all the more room I need.
awesome deal
just a note. for all you guys to see how awesome this deal is.
OWC Mercury Extreme G4/1.25-1.33GHz 2MB SDR L3 Processor Upgrade for PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics. $389.99
thats just a processor
now throw in a whole computer with monitor. and you get amazing deal from apple... for only twice the cost...
just a note. for all you guys to see how awesome this deal is.
OWC Mercury Extreme G4/1.25-1.33GHz 2MB SDR L3 Processor Upgrade for PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics. $389.99
thats just a processor
now throw in a whole computer with monitor. and you get amazing deal from apple... for only twice the cost...
eMacs unreliable, in my experience
I manage a lab of 12 eMacs at the university where I teach. In July we repopulated the lab with brand new 1 GHz eMacs, and since then, 4 of them have been in for service. [And, Apple has been a pain to get to provide warranty service, but that is a gripe for another thread.]
33% needing service in the first year? I have no interest in introducing that sort of headache to my home, nor would I encourage anyone else to do so, lest I look like an idiot for making such a recommendation.
That said, I love my 15" AlBook (and consider features comparisons between that and eMacs to be silly, it is "apples and oranges", so to speak), and have a 400MHz G4 tower that is now over 3 years old, and has never given me a spot of trouble.
I manage a lab of 12 eMacs at the university where I teach. In July we repopulated the lab with brand new 1 GHz eMacs, and since then, 4 of them have been in for service. [And, Apple has been a pain to get to provide warranty service, but that is a gripe for another thread.]
33% needing service in the first year? I have no interest in introducing that sort of headache to my home, nor would I encourage anyone else to do so, lest I look like an idiot for making such a recommendation.
That said, I love my 15" AlBook (and consider features comparisons between that and eMacs to be silly, it is "apples and oranges", so to speak), and have a 400MHz G4 tower that is now over 3 years old, and has never given me a spot of trouble.