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numediaman said:
...anyone who buys a new Mac and still hangs out at a rumor site must be masochistic.
That's hilarious! Exactly what I was thinking! As soon as I buy my updated gear...I'm taking a long vacation from rumor sites.
 
a17inchFuture said:
1.25 Ghz processors in the emac's?????

Congratulations, powerbook owners, your computers are now as advanced as the cheapest line apple makes, and only twice to three times as expensive!!!!!!

This is literally a spit in the face of powerbook owners, and is an insult to anyone considering buying a powerbook(so in other words, 15 inch PB superdrive buyers are paying the 1-2 THOUSAND dollar difference for bluetooth, airport, and a thin screen).

Steve, you complete a**hole . . . You and everyone at apple deserve to go belly up for this.

I don't see anyone else putting their eMac in their backpack and carrying around all day to use it where ever they go. I have no regrets in my PB purchase... at least I have my computer and I'm not wishing and waiting like others (which I once was too, but that was 7 months ago).
 
a17inchFuture said:
Thats just it. the demographice for the emac line is cheap so its cheap. Yet the Pb line demogrpahic is of a higher spending bracket, so despite the facts that there is VERY little difference between the machines, they charge more to the pro line users.

I hate to state the obvious, but the size of the computer, possibly?

The fact that you take personal offense to a computer manufacturer updating or not updating their products is slightly worrying IMHO.
 
numediaman said:
Just about the whole line is due for an update. So complaining as soon as an update occurs is silly. I recommend that anyone who buys a new Mac and still hangs out at a rumor site must be masochistic.

I wish they had updated the G5 -- but I'll take anything at this point. I just wish Apple would give us some guidance on their relationship with IBM to reassure both their customers and their stockholders that everything is OK. (maybe tomorrow during the conference call)

haha, I am not the only one, but I know what you mean. The truth is I got the computer friday, so am waiting the ten days in hopes of an upgrade. So today was really my last chance, and yes, I do have personally invested emotions, and I think that at very least they should have lowered the prices of powerbooks today or somewhere along the way(note that the changing of priceswould not help me, so i hope that wont be misinterpretted as me whining).
 
eSnow said:
Well, after the aluminium shortage blurb, MacRumors would get a solid -8 by me...

I don't think you understand the purpose of Page 2, and should probably avoid it in the future. :)

arn
 
arn said:
At the moment, it's very easy.

Of the rumor dedicated sites out there... there are only 3 worth following:

MacRumors
AppleInsider
ThinkSecret

I'll refrain from rating MacRumors, since I may be biased... but ThinkSecret ranks higher than Appleinsider.

All other rumor dedicated sites are not worth reading since the others are either always wrong or make up rumors to draw traffic.

arn


You missed Jim !
 
Potential switcher

My fiancé's mother has been talking about getting a new compy and asked me about the Mac. Perhaps this would be the way to go...talk about good timing.

heh heh heh, converting PC users, one at a time.

And now! Everyone bow down to Jim!!!
Good job, mate!
 
a17inchFuture said:
Thats just it. the demographice for the emac line is cheap so its cheap. Yet the Pb line demogrpahic is of a higher spending bracket, so despite the facts that there is VERY little difference between the machines, they charge more to the pro line users.

Its truly offensive to me.

if you can't stomach faster/better/cheaper things coming out within a year of your purchase, you shouldn't buy any computers.

i have a feeling you would have said the same thing if eMac had been updated a few months from now: "man, it's only been half a year since I got my PB and the lowest end eMac has the same specs and is third of the price." :rolleyes:

if iBook had been boosted and had the same spec as the PB, i can see why you'd complain. but this is eMac - it's a desktop. you pay a premium for portability. unless you consider 50 lbs "portable," then it's not even a valid comparison.

when you go to a gourmet restaurant with beautiful decorations, serene atmosphere and great service, are you going to complain that a cheaper, take-out restaurant in town serves a similar dish using pretty much the same ingredients for less?
 
a17inchFuture said:
You must know some intelligent "very young children", because I thought I was making sound arguments based on fact, not acting like a child.

Oh, and simply because I choose to use profanity doesnt make me a child, so beyond that I can't imagine what would lead you to that comparison.

I say "childish" because you wished the death of a company because they did not update the product line YOU wanted. I know of many people that will be able to benefit from this eMac boost. Be happy for them and know that Apple is capable of working on multiple products and will release them when available.

I argue this point no further.
 
More Updates today????

i agree with the responses that apple does not do more releases unless it is a event ie macworld but WHY? has'nt the eMac got the center space on the apple home page ?????????
i stick to my guns and say another release is comming TODAY

Tom
 
stoid said:
I say "childish" because you wished the death of a company because they did not update the product line YOU wanted. I know of many people that will be able to benefit from this eMac boost. Be happy for them and know that Apple is capable of working on multiple products and will release them when available.

I argue this point no further.

I said they "should go belly up", as in the company go out of business. So, i guess you need to read the posts more carefully, huh?
 
liketom said:
i agree with the responses that apple does not do more releases unless it is a event ie macworld but WHY? has'nt the eMac got the center space on the apple home page ?????????
i stick to my guns and say another release is comming TODAY

Tom

Definitly not. It has been like this often before. Same when new iBooks came out. Not on the main center.
 
macomposer said:
I manage a lab of 12 eMacs at the university where I teach. In July we repopulated the lab with brand new 1 GHz eMacs, and since then, 4 of them have been in for service. [And, Apple has been a pain to get to provide warranty service, but that is a gripe for another thread.]

33% needing service in the first year? I have no interest in introducing that sort of headache to my home, nor would I encourage anyone else to do so, lest I look like an idiot for making such a recommendation.

That said, I love my 15" AlBook (and consider features comparisons between that and eMacs to be silly, it is "apples and oranges", so to speak), and have a 400MHz G4 tower that is now over 3 years old, and has never given me a spot of trouble.

I would have to say that open computers such as in a university setting see much more use/wear-and-tear than the average home user. For instance the service bureau at my school really has some of our machines f**ked. Final Cut Pro doesn't even launch on them. There are a lot of variables to consider in a network setting like that. Granted some things just do break.
 

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It seems Apple can truly never satisfy everyone. When the consumer machines are not updated, we get post after post of "they deliberately cripple eMac/iMac/iBook" whining, if they are updated, we get post after post of "but now the eMac/iMac/iBook is almost as fast as my pro machine" whining. And it's really tiresome. Every update is a good update, simple as that.
 
Just some notes on the differences between the eMac's and the Powerbooks:
Code:
eMac                      Powerbook
ATI 9200/32MB         ATI 9600/64MB
FW400                    FW400 & FW800
10/100                    Gigabit
$50 Bluetooth           Built-in Bluetooth
VGA Mirroring            DVI Spanning
$20 TV out               S-Video out
bottom-line HD          top-line HD (for laptops)
Desktop                   Portable

I think for me, I will get one soon to replace my venerable, but ailing Rev B iMac, and wait for a g5 Powerbook next year.
 
Flyers486 said:
The iMac is dead. At this point it would seem unwise for apple to try to premier a new iMac with specs comparable to the new powerbooks (the new G4s at 1.5). More likely this spells the end of the iMac (in its current form) as we know it and a new product debuting at WWDC. The cube G5, anyone?

Greg

that would be sooo awesome
 
And no, I dont read minds, but i think most would agree the specs on this model indicate that others updates are imminent.

And as far as an ibook coming out several months from now and upsetting me, the onyl thing that really bothers me about this whole thing is that I just got my computer a week ago, and today it has been nearly matched, by a product that is supposedly their least advanced line. Yes, I know, there are better cards, portability, thinness, but still, I can't help but feeling a bit shafted they chose this update first.

Simply put, it seems less necessary a revision than the PB's, and so in my opinion, choosing to do this is a way to get them more money, at the expense of the consumer.

And I really don't understand why apple doesnt offer sales beyond "buy something else too and you can save a little" . . . just reduce the price of the computers, thats what a sale implies, you are taking a smaller cut in order to move products.
 
arn said:
At the moment, it's very easy.

Of the rumor dedicated sites out there... there are only 3 worth following:

MacRumors
AppleInsider
ThinkSecret

I'll refrain from rating MacRumors, since I may be biased... but ThinkSecret ranks higher than Appleinsider.

All other rumor dedicated sites are not worth reading since the others are either always wrong or make up rumors to draw traffic.

arn
Also, if you speak french, you might want to take a look at croquer.free.fr, which, I suspect, is an offshoot of macBidouille to avoid them getting hassle from Apple...
 
liketom said:
i agree with the responses that apple does not do more releases unless it is a event ie macworld but WHY? has'nt the eMac got the center space on the apple home page ?????????
i stick to my guns and say another release is comming TODAY

Tom

European stores still not updated. So you might be wright but if more is coming I would expect to happen in the next hour or so as it is alreday 9 am PDT.
 
a17inchFuture said:
Yeah, thats just the thing, the cheapest, lowest line should not be first!!!!!!!!!! And as someone who bought a powerbook a week ago, i DO take personal offense, because its insulting that the update is imminent, but held off so their profit margins are greater. Emacs can only go up, and thats why their being updated. PB's, on the other hand, are doing well, cause people want apple and portable, and dont care about the price/details. So Steve screws people like me and anyone who has recently put their PB's in 6th overall, and highest among comps.

So you shut it, i am right.

who says? You? Somehow from the tone of your posts I highly doubt
you possess any marketeing credentials... portables have always been comparitively more expensive than desktops so just live with it, just because you purchased a "top-of-the-line" model months ago doesn't mean that apple, or any company for that matter, should never update their product line again so that yours will always be "the best"--even if apple did update the powerbooks first and then the eMacs--it won't change the speed of current powerbooks owners machines--so stop whining already
 
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