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New Feature Test: Post Ratings

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I wonder if this will be like some other sites where a comments can be "ranked down to oblivion". If a post get s a certain amount of negative votes, you do not see the post by default. You would need to click something to see the quotes.

I prefer to just put the person on ignore. :confused:

P.S. Please don't vote me negative. My fragile ego cannot take rejection. ;)
 
It works in Slashdot, but only because you have Kudos rating and meta-moderation.

Without meta-moderation the trolls get equal voting powers to everyone else - and all hell will break loose as people vote up friends and down 'enemies'.

I think it's a good idea in general though. It would be great to cut through a 30 page thread and see only the top 10 posts.
 
Vote me up if you love kittens! :D

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I can see it being more of a hinderance in the main news threads, however for the question threads in the main forum it could be beneficial to highlight the most 'popular' answer.
 
I like this feature, however I definitely think there needs to be a counter for both positive and negative votes. If the counter says "0" we have no idea how many votes that post recieved as there could be an equal number of +/- votes- which wouldn't tell us much of anything, would it?

Edit: Or am I not understanding how the counters work?
 
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We're making some adjustments to the score display so it's less confusing.

So people won't see scores jump 2 points, etc...

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miles01110 said:
What additional value does this provide?
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rdowns said:
I don't see this ending well. See ratings for front page articles.
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Exactly rdowns & miles01110. If people can't even adequately vote on a news post, how can we expect this to add any value?
Doctor Q said:
Use the Report Post feature to alert the moderators.

The goal of post votes is to identify the comments that others most agree with or appreciate seeing.

We ask that you vote based on the content of the post, not on who made the post, i.e., not target particular users for + or - votes, and that you not vote for posts that you know are inappropriate in the thread (off-topic, insulting, spam, etc.). But each logged in user can vote on any post as they please, without giving a reason, so being a good citizen is on the honor system.

However, you should not solicit other users' votes for or against posts. If you see that type of request, report the post and it will be removed.

If there are kinks in the system, we'll work them out.
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Honestly, I'd like to think that this would be the case but we've seen contrary evidence. Sad, but true.
yg17 said:
And it didn't even take me long to find an example:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/12435223/

What did he say in that post that is so deserving of the negative ratings?
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That's just the issue. You'll soon find that the less than popular members or the members with less than popular things to say will be voted down. If it comes down to it and posts aren't seen by all just because some random members have hurt feelings over certain ideas then what's the point of being here?

I for one feel that if you're going to have this then also allow us to filter posts by rating. This way you can truly ostracize those who have unpopular things to say in a truly effortless way. This site will soon be all kittens and ponies and a better place for those with thin skin.
 
miles01110 said:
Part of the issue is what defines "adequately voting"? The voting system on the front page is entirely subjective and- in my opinion- adds nothing to the appeal or disappeal of the story. Same for individual posts.
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Very true. At the same time I will read and form an opinion of the topic all on my own. I'm sure I'm not alone there, but then again I am sure many will take the popular vote route and just form their opinion based on that. Either way, a post that is good for you and me may not be good for others. I've had a fair share of PMs about my posts, both in support of and against. It is all subjective, as you say, and this rating system will be similar.
 
we've turned it off to make some tweaks.

It'll be back in a bit.

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jessica. said:
Very true. At the same time I will read and form an opinion of the topic all on my own. I'm sure I'm not alone there, but then again I am sure many will take the popular vote route and just form their opinion based on that. Either way, a post that is good for you and me may not be good for others. I've had a fair share of PMs about my posts, both in support of and against. It is all subjective, as you say, and this rating system will be similar.
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well sometimes there is an article about different kind of processor, chips or whatever. some stuff that I don't know anything about. So then I like to look at the votes and see if this is something that is good or bad for Apple. I like to think that majority of the people voting have the same love of apple products and have more insight on this issue than I do.
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
well sometimes there is an article about different kind of processor, chips or whatever. some stuff that I don't know anything about. So then I like to look at the votes and see if this is something that is good or bad for Apple. I like to think that majority of the people voting have the same love of apple products and have more insight on this issue than I do.
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Yes, you'll get a great idea by the votes. :D
 

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well sometimes there is an article about different kind of processor, chips or whatever. some stuff that I don't know anything about. So then I like to look at the votes and see if this is something that is good or bad for Apple. I like to think that majority of the people voting have the same love of apple products and have more insight on this issue than I do.
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But it's still highly opinion-based. I think the rating should be based on something other than whether or not I like the poster or what he/she has to say. Something more like, how helpful or constructive was this post?

I still think the "thanks" system like at RedFlagDeals.com is a better representation of what a good "point" system looks like. Certain people are very helpful in answering other people's questions or providing useful information. When someone answers your question or provides a technical explanation (or even a snappy comeback or an informed opinion) that people find insightful, they can "thank" the user for the post. Everyone who sees the post then can quickly see that this post has been helpful to others ("6 people thanked Mad Mac Maniac for this post"). And the cumulative total stays with the user, so you can also see at a quick glance that this user has a reputation for being helpful ("Mad Mac Maniac has been thanked 4,134 times.")
 
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I think that when you vote, all the ratings in the page should be updated, to minimize people mistakenly complaining about the values changing by more than one.

I also think the votes should be guaranteed private.
 
notjustjay said:
I still think the "thanks" system like at RedFlagDeals.com is a better representation of what a good "point" system looks like. Certain people are very helpful in answering other people's questions or providing useful information. When someone answers your question or provides a technical explanation (or even a snappy comeback or an informed opinion) that people find insightful, they can "thank" the user for the post. Everyone who sees the post then can quickly see that this post has been helpful to others ("6 people thanked Mad Mac Maniac for this post"). And the cumulative total stays with the user, so you can also see at a quick glance that this user has a reputation for being helpful ("Mad Mac Maniac has been thanked 4,134 times.")
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I prefer this idea too. I would rate your post positively if it hadn't been disabled :p
 
yg17 said:
Sorry, this idea is horrible. People are going to downrate posts because they disagree with someone's opinion, not because it's a bad post.

I can easily see the fanboys downrating anyone who mentions Microsoft, Android or any of Apple's competitors in a positive light.
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I think you meant this can both ways. Some will mention Apple products and there are a select few who will vote negative....
 
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