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I think the consensus here is that this thing will have iPhone 5 specs.

That's absolutely the consensus, except that one person hasn't said anything. And without that one person, this consensus is worth absolutely nothing. That person is of course Tim Cook.
 
This is my thought as well. Something along these lines:

iPhone 5C 16GB - $0
iPhone 5C 32GB - $99
iPhone 5C 64GB - $199

iPhone 5S 32GB - $199
iPhone 5S 64GB - $299
iPhone 5S 128GB - $399

The slight price overlap makes you decide what is more important, more storage or a better phone, which is very Apple like. :cool:

IPad mini canibalized Ipad, dont you think Apple get this lesson right?
There is no reason they would entertain any overlap between 5C and 5S.
Who would buy a 5S at 32 GB wit a 5C at 64GB priced equally ?
5C will come with 16GB only, they could keep 5 at 32GB and 5S at 64 and 128 GB
 
We have been patiently waiting for over nine months for a new product release from Apple. How proud they must be to give us last years model in cheap plastic. Apple is amazing.

This will be an ADDITIONAL iPhone besides the new iPhone.
 
Honestly Apple, if this is innovation, then I really have nothing to say... You must have run out of ideas. Be prepared for further erosion of the share of your smartphone market by the likes of Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, and Sony.
What is innovation? Why do u feel a phone has to be reinvented every year?
 
Honestly Apple, if this is innovation, then I really have nothing to say... You must have run out of ideas. Be prepared for further erosion of the share of your smartphone market by the likes of Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, and Sony.

Can we please stop with this "innovation" canard? It's so lame. Apple is not a company to market gimmicks that don't work in practice and call it innovation.

None of those companies you've named have done anything "innovating" either lately, so why the "herp derp no innovation!" trolls?
 
This is getting boring

And on what planet is £320 low cost?

Apple iPhone 4 8G on PAYG is £320. Certainly not paying that for a plastic phone.
£175 - £250 maybe?

Verdict - usual Apple story lately - just too expensive - just too late to be innovative anymore.

The iPhone 4 is three years old. You wouldn't pay the same price for a plastic phone with iPhone 5 specs? Not to mention bigger screen, Siri, and the lightning connector on all new devices sold finally.
 
Is it weird that we really haven't seen much in the way of leaks for the "5S"?

I may still be way out there with this but I'm wondering if there wasn't something to those rumors that had production of the 5S stopped so they could increase the screen size then release closer to Christmas...maybe as the "6".

I know I know, but I can dream can't I?
 
Really?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...heading-to-emerging-markets-this-year-report/
http://slashdot.org/topic/cloud/why-would-apple-produce-a-cheap-iphone/
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/0...t-iphone-for-emerging-markets-late-this-year/

I could go on but needles to say if you don't trust the Mac Rumors story then you are set in your beliefs. Why would they sell a low cost phone in markets they are already raking massive profits and market share from with the full strength iPhone? Yet they are loosing sales in emerging markets where a low cost iPhone makes sense and will help increase sales and market share.
Can you not see that?

Because they want to continue their contract pricing model in the US and stop selling devices with 3.5" screens and 30-pin connectors? Can you not see that?

The speculation was that it was designed with emerging markets in mind. This just kills two birds with one stone. Just because they designed it for emerging markets doesn't mean they'll only sell it there... That would be stupid.
 
If Apple continues down the path they have been, then this fall we will see the discontinuation of the iPhone 4 and:

$0 - iPhone 4S
$99 - iPhone 5
$199 - iPhone 5S

So two of the phones will be 4" screens while one will be a 3.5" screen. If they wanted to shake things up a bit in their product line, I think now is a good time to do it. Apple may not want to have another year with a 3.5" screen on the market because its not very uniform. Apple is not very big on 'different', so getting rid of the iPhone 4S and replacing it with a low cost 4" phone in my opinion would be in their best interest. It would also breathe some new life into their low cost options too. I think Apple is only looking to replace the iPhone 4S with a 4" option rather than creating a low cost phone that is going to add a 4th device to their lineup.
 
If Apple continues down the path they have been, then this fall we will see the discontinuation of the iPhone 4 and:

$0 - iPhone 4S
$99 - iPhone 5
$199 - iPhone 5S

So two of the phones will be 4" screens while one will be a 3.5" screen. If they wanted to shake things up a bit in their product line, I think now is a good time to do it. Apple may not want to have another year with a 3.5" screen on the market because its not very uniform. Apple is not very big on 'different', so getting rid of the iPhone 4S and replacing it with a low cost 4" phone in my opinion would be in their best interest. It would also breathe some new life into their low cost options too. I think Apple is only looking to replace the iPhone 4S with a 4" option rather than creating a low cost phone that is going to add a 4th device to their lineup.

But why would Apple keep producing the 4S? Seems like one of the major points for the 5C is to eliminate production of that.
 
Honestly Apple, if this is innovation, then I really have nothing to say... You must have run out of ideas. Be prepared for further erosion of the share of your smartphone market by the likes of Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, and Sony.

Ok I'll bite. What exactly are these other companies doing hardware wise that is "innovative" besides making phones with bigger screens?
 
Can we please stop with this "innovation" canard? It's so lame. Apple is not a company to market gimmicks that don't work in practice and call it innovation.

None of those companies you've named have done anything "innovating" either lately, so why the "herp derp no innovation!" trolls?
Not true Samsung found an innovative way to cheat on benchmark tests. Only problem is, they got caught.
 
Emerging markets, by definition, exhibit a lower per capita income than first world nations, usually more than 10% but not more that 75% comparatively, so by extension an iPhone for an emerging market is one intended to be purchased at a lower cost. I made no comment concerning who would buy the phone, simply where its price point fell in relation to the normal iPhone and why it not be able to offer the same internal components.

I'm glad you made no comment concerning who would buy it etc, but why are you telling me as I have not quoted your comments?

All of that is true, but Apple would still sell it here. Let's not kid ourselves. It's not strictly for those markets.

Well we will see. They will make less profit as they will be sacrificing the full iPhone sales, unless the iPhone 5S specs are amazing or the iPhone 5C specs are rubbish.
 
So they want to try and sell an iPhone that doesn't have the same build as the iPhone 4 for the same price as an iPhone 4? Off contract that is.

I like the look of it no doubt, but I wonder if they're just putting the iPhone 4 into a new shell.

I'd venture they will use the A5 or A6. A5 will put it at 4s specs, but I can see them going A6 if they get a good deal... (Its a way to drop A5 and 4S a year early) Just because A6 is almost TWICE as fast as A5 and they could officially jump WAY AHEAD in what developers can do with the hardware. Right now, devs can't really TARGET iPhone 5 because them their apps couldn't keep up on even the 4s. That leaves room for A7 to be a minor bump in speed. Then they set up another two-year cycle where iPad/iPhone are ALL A6 and higher and devs can go crazy.

Right now, we are at the end of the A4/A5 cycle. The most populist processor is the A5 with iPad2/mini/iPad3/iPhone 4s all roughly equivelant in performance making Devs job easier.
 
This is getting boring

And on what planet is £320 low cost?

Apple iPhone 4 8G on PAYG is £320. Certainly not paying that for a plastic phone.
£175 - £250 maybe?

Verdict - usual Apple story lately - just too expensive - just too late to be innovative anymore.

I would agree with this if the internals were that of a 4S. However the fact that rumors point to the A6 processor as the processor makes me feel that this is a much better value phone for £320 than the iPhone 4 ever was.

Multiple colours, 16gb, A6, 4" retina, thinner, lighter... it's a much better deal than they've given the less well off customers in the past.
 
Assuming these photos are all real, its a huge disappointment that Apple wasn't able to create a good looking phone, especially given what Motorola was able to accomplish with the Moto X. Seriously, the Moto X has much better looks compared to the plastic iPhone ... and they're both plastic!

Also, from the leaks of the other colors for the iPhone, the colors look AWFUL as well.
 
I'd venture they will use the A5 or A6. A5 will put it at 4s specs, but I can see them going A6 if they get a good deal... (Its a way to drop A5 and 4S a year early) Just because A6 is almost TWICE as fast as A5 and they could officially jump WAY AHEAD in what developers can do with the hardware. Right now, devs can't really TARGET iPhone 5 because them their apps couldn't keep up on even the 4s. That leaves room for A7 to be a minor bump in speed. Then they set up another two-year cycle where iPad/iPhone are ALL A6 and higher and devs can go crazy.

Right now, we are at the end of the A4/A5 cycle. The most populist processor is the A5 with iPad2/mini/iPad3/iPhone 4s all roughly equivelant in performance making Devs job easier.

I think they will put the A6 inside.

They're calling it (rumor) the iPhone 5C. iPhone 5. iPhone 5 has and always will be remembered for having the A6 processor inside of it. Suddenly the new 5C has the name but half the speed? What?!
 
Because they want to continue their contract pricing model in the US and stop selling devices with 3.5" screens and 30-pin connectors? Can you not see that?

The speculation was that it was designed with emerging markets in mind. This just kills two birds with one stone. Just because they designed it for emerging markets doesn't mean they'll only sell it there... That would be stupid.

So your implying they won't follow their current model they use in the Western market place of offering older products cheaper than. We will see, but looking at the iPad Mini's specs I wouldn't hold my breath for the 5C having good specs.
 
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