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What a royal disappointment.

Only 900mhz. No Bluetooth. No Airport Extreme. Same old machine with 100mhz added.

They could have done better.
 
Originally posted by Kwyjibo
I think this was always a BTO option atleast since the nov 6 revision they only real thing that changed was the standard size included on the 1299 model from 30 to 40. I think you could have order a 60gb if you wanted one.

Actually, before this the largest hard drive you could get an an iBook (the largest from Apple, that is) was 40 GB.

This is what I've been waiting for - a larger hard drive. I have tons of music in iTunes, a bunch of music videos, movies trailers, and home movies, and a 40 GB just hasn't been cutting it. A maxed out 12" iBook will be perfect. I'll be able to take it to class for note taking, use it in the car to listen to music (As I don't yet have an iPod) and play my piddly little games (The Sims, AoE II, and Civ III). I love my 800 MHz PowerBook, but I prefer to carry something smaller around with me. I think I'll give my CRT iMac away, and use my PB as my desktop.

Well, now I'm just blabbering, but Apple updates excite me to no end :)

P.S. - I love the new design for the Apple Store. Just like everything else that comes from Apple, it's "pretty".
 
Originally posted by macphoria
What a royal disappointment.

Only 900mhz. No Bluetooth. No Airport Extreme. Same old machine with 100mhz added.

They could have done better.
But the nobody would buy the PB 12" :rolleyes:
 
Hasn't anyone noticed that the Combo drives now write at 24x CD-R and 10x CD-RW, compared to 16x/8x before?
 
Originally posted by t^3
Hasn't anyone noticed that the Combo drives now write at 24x CD-R and 10x CD-RW, compared to 16x/8x before?

Yes, I just saw it. I agree with someone else who said that Apple just wanted to slip this small update prior to the huge announcements next Tuesday.
 
Originally posted by jxyama
Sakino-

Go knock yourself out. Go get a Wintel machine for a cheaper price. Why do so many "switcher wannabes" come here, of all places, whine that Apple is too expensive/slow/whatever and "threaten" us that they are gonna go get a PC.

Get a machine you want, considering all the specs. If the $$$ is the only thing you are concerned with, go get a Dell. Some of you make it seem like Apple has an obligation to potential switchers. You are never going to get an Al 15" with 970 with 8 hour battery, bluetooth and 100 GB HD for $1,000, which is what you guys seem to be expecting at times.

Price is not a factor I have 6gs sitting in the bank waiting for something that catches my eye. I was goign to buy a pb the week of the keynotes but then they dropped the new line of PB. Now I been waiting around for the past 4 months hoping something would come up, but thats not the case. When apple said "This is the year of the laptop" I quess I expected alittle more to come out of them. Unforunitly I will probably end up waiting till summer, and hopefully they will release the new 15" pb.

All in all I expected to see alittle more in the ibook line.
The pb line is left kind of screwed up right now if you ask me.
 
new look

Hmm, the new look on the store is interesting...can't say I love it. I would have figured they would have waited til summer to do this. Interesting thing is the education store still has the old look, if anyone wants to do comparisons. ;)
Splash page leading to edu. store looks neat though....very "inviting" or whatever.
 
Originally posted by PaisanoMan
(By the way, I think 1 GB SO-DIMMs are now available for the PB12", but they're far too expensive to be practical. But I want one.)

A german company, IIRC, was offering these to European customers acording to the local computer paper, so they're available...
 
Oh boy~

I find the situation kinda frustrating.

Why do you think its screwed up> Sakino?

I wanted the Alubook but 17 is too big and i think that there are issues on the LCD and its hinge and the 12 ALu has heating issues, that is not good sounding.

I mean warped lids, ouch!

I would have bought almost anything that Apple could bring out.

But the new PowerBooks they just leave me cold.

I try to follow my instincts!

A 5400 rpm HD inthe iBook but not the Powerbooks is insane ot me, and they have an upgrade for the faster drive at least they used to!
 
Originally posted by macphoria
What a royal disappointment.

Only 900mhz. No Bluetooth. No Airport Extreme. Same old machine with 100mhz added.

They could have done better.

Apple could only do better if the PB 12" didn't exist. In reality, the PB 12" (minus Al case) is what this iBook revision would have been, if the 970 were ready.

Unfortunately, I don't see the iBook getting decent updates until the PowerBook line is all 970 -- that's probably 2 revs away.
 
I need to get a laptop when I leave for college this fall... I like the style/price of the iBooks, but they're just too slow! Mac OS X can barely hold itself together on my G4/466! Nice to see they're upping it a little bit though.
 
Re: about the iBook good. But what about the store?

Originally posted by GigaWire
The new store design is a mess! There are products everywhere, and suggested products on every product page. I like the simple interfac of the old store better. I mean if I knew nothing about Apple, I think I'd have a hell of a time trying to figure out what I want to buy, and where it is. thoughts?

I think that I'd be inclined to disagree. Comparing it to the old Apple store format (as has been mentioned, still visible in the education store), I find that the new format is much more simple and elegant than the old format. (I even went looking for something in the old format - a software title - and found that I had to really search for it, whereas it was readily accessible from the front page of the new format.)

All in all, I think that this is a change for the better. But, then again, that's just me... ;)
 
Originally posted by Sakino
Personally I feel the update doesn't do ****. It doesn't make me want to go out and buy my first apple. I expected alittle more out of apple on the new ibook line. This is the year of the laptop and apple has yet to prove it. The 17" pb is to big, and the 12" pb is to small for most people. I don't want to buy a 15" pb that is considered out of date when I pick it up. I really hope apple gets it ass in gear this summer, because if thats not the case I will just find a win laptop that is probably identical to what the pb and ibooks are putting out for a lot cheaper.


Personally I feel the update doesn't do ****. It doesn't make me want to go out and buy my first apple. I expected alittle more out of apple on the ______ line. This is the year of the _____ and apple has yet to prove it. The _____ is too big, and the ______ is to small for most people. I don't want to buy a(n) _____ that is considered out of date when I pick it up.
I really hope apple gets it ass in gear this _______, because if thats not the case I will just find a win _____ that is probably identical to what the _______ and ______ are putting out for a lot cheaper.


nice work. for everyone who is never happy, please use this excellent template for future line update complaints.
 
They could have done better.
This is an update not a redesign. The 32MB vram is nice, as it will allow everyone who buys the less expensive laptop to take advantage of QE.

I'm guessing the redesign will come at MWSF 2004, with an improved G3 with a 200 Mhz bus.
 
Originally posted by stompy
... until the PowerBook line is all 970 -- that's 2 revisions away at least.

Now, now, unless you know something that you're not telling us, then you don't really know how long it will be until the PowerBook line goes to the 970. Right?

(Note: Neither do I. It could be in June, or it could be next year. My only point is that we just don't know.)

Originally posted by Perceptes
I need to get a laptop when I leave for college this fall... I like the style/price of the iBooks, but they're just too slow! Mac OS X can barely hold itself together on my G4/466! Nice to see they're upping it a little bit though.

While I can possibly understand issues with a 466 machine, I'm running OS X on a 600 iBook, and I don't have that many complaints. I'd certainly never say that it was 'barely holding itself together'. So, if the iBooks look good to you, I'd say go for them.

Myself, I'm going to be getting a new PowerBook soon, as there are some applications that I run that are pushing this little iBook to its limits. Soon. Soon.... :)
 
Zimv20,
I love it! I may print copies of that and hand it to the PC biggots here whenever they start wasting my time with their anti-mac crap!
 
Originally posted by pilotgi
I'm guessing the redesign will come at MWSF 2004, with an improved G3 with a 200 Mhz bus.

I think we will see a complete redesign at MWNY 2003.

This update was very minimal. I predict that this update is only to tide people over until a completely new iBook is released in July (when the PowerBook line will most likely be updated). In the redesign we will see AirPort Extreme added and maybe Bluetooth.

Remember, OS 9 booting will supposedly stop in June (and these iBooks still boot 9 to satisfy the education market). Apple badly wants to kill OS 9, so and update at MWNY 2003 would finish OS 9 off for good.
 
CD-ROM

Come on Apple. A CD-ROM in the low end iBook? How much more would it cost for them to add a burner or just a DVD. More and more software in the coming years will be pushed out on DVD and I for one was looking for something to compliment my PowerMac.

Just need it when I'm on the road and for my wife to surf the web when I'm working on "Big Daddy". But a cd-rom is just a waste of space since I hoped to at lest hang on to it for a couple of years.

I know I'm one of thousand who have asked for Apple to upgrade the drive...thanks for listening to your customers.
 
Originally posted by Sakino
All in all I expected to see alittle more in the ibook line.

If you saw anymore in the iBook line, you would have a Powerbook. The 900Mhz iBook is already knocking on the door of the 867Mhz Powerbook. If they had put in a 1Ghz G3, 64MB of Vid RAM, Airport Extreme, and FW800 all for $1,299 Powerbook sales would have been hurt and hurt bad.
 
Re: Oh boy~

Originally posted by Grokgod
I find the situation kinda frustrating.

Why do you think its screwed up> Sakino?

I wanted the Alubook but 17 is too big and i think that there are issues on the LCD and its hinge and the 12 ALu has heating issues, that is not good sounding.

I mean warped lids, ouch!

I would have bought almost anything that Apple could bring out.

But the new PowerBooks they just leave me cold.

I try to follow my instincts!

A 5400 rpm HD inthe iBook but not the Powerbooks is insane ot me, and they have an upgrade for the faster drive at least they used to!

Well if you need a laptop and have all those issues with the Powerbook line, why not try a new iBook?
 
Sakino-

It sounds like you have (had) your heart set on 15" Al, whenever it may come out. Then why would an iBook update bother you so much? :confused: You didn't really expect 14" iBook to suddenly turn into a 15" PB, did you? (You already mentioned how 12" PB is too small, so I assume 12" iBook is too small for you as well?)

I think expanding the PB line to include 12" and 17" is a pretty good start to the "year of the laptop." Notice Jobs said it's the "year of the laptop," not the "year of Sakino's dream laptop."

If price wasn't an issue and you already visit this site, why would you even mention getting a PC in place of a Mac? If you really think PC is a viable alternative to meet your needs, then go and buy one, no need to tell us. I happen to think PC is not a viable alternative to a Mac, but that's just my opinion.

(By the way, I don't really care about all this. I just felt like pretending to take these "personally." Oh also, since we are in a "proper" tech forum, 6 grands should be abbreviated 6k, not 6g, unless, of course, you have 6 giga-dollars.) :D
 
Originally posted by Perceptes
I need to get a laptop when I leave for college this fall... I like the style/price of the iBooks, but they're just too slow! Mac OS X can barely hold itself together on my G4/466!

How do you know they are slow? Have you ran a new 900Mhz iBook yet? I would think with Quartz Extreme and 32MB of VR, and a 900Mhz G3 Sahara processor these will be a very quick little laptop. OSX runs quick on my iBook 600 combo, and these have a much better supported vid card, 300 more Mhz and double the L2 cache. I don't think they will be slow at all!
 
I remember more then a year ago when a hundred MHZ bump was a good thing... apple can't keep on doing this.

I hope this isn't the way the year of the laptop is going to continue
 
Personally I feel the update doesn't do . It doesn't make me want to go out and buy my first apple. I expected alittle more out of apple on the MCCHICKEN SANDWICH line. This is the year of the LAPDANCE and apple has yet to prove it. The ST. BERNARD is too big, and the CHIHUAHUA is to small for most people. I don't want to buy a(n) AMC GREMLIN that is considered out of date when I pick it up.
I really hope apple gets it ass in gear this FALL FASHION SEASON IN NYC, because if thats not the case I will just find a win XP ON THAT AWESOME GATEWAY HARDWARE that is probably identical to what the POWERBOOK 2400 and LC II are putting out for a lot cheaper.


~ thanks to Zimv20 for the template.
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