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New iBooks Released
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iProbot said:And my Macintosh Classic 8 Mhz sounds like from the dark ages! So what's the point? Life goes on
Yes, but it has been a while since Apple were even close to Moore's law, and its a bit of a shock, even though it's good for everybody who loves their Macs...
Hopefully they keep up the good work so I can buy myself a brand new 12" iBook for Christmas next year that will kick my current 800MHz G4's a*s...
Whishlist for Oct/Nov/Dec 2005:
* 12" iBook dual 1.5GHz G4
* 1280x1024 resolution
* 100 GB HD
* 512 MB RAM (which I upgrade to 1.5GB)
* Superdrive
* 64 MB VRAM (I don't really need any more, but an 128-256 option would be nice)
* Built-in Airport Express and Bluetooth (to early for WiMax, i guess)
- is this to much to ask for...?
Distinctly Average update
They need to deal with the ibooks main problem: that of the screen resolution.
1024x 768 on the 14 incher is just pitiful. You can't do anything on that. I use pro tools with an mbox on an ibook and it is pure agony. I am tempted to switch back for the res on some of the thinkpads.
Rest of the updates are ok. nothing brilliant.
They need to deal with the ibooks main problem: that of the screen resolution.
1024x 768 on the 14 incher is just pitiful. You can't do anything on that. I use pro tools with an mbox on an ibook and it is pure agony. I am tempted to switch back for the res on some of the thinkpads.
Rest of the updates are ok. nothing brilliant.
mobile
This is a mobile computer. School, airport, cafe, library even some entire city with "hotspot". If this is the only computer you have for the home, you'll still need to pay for internet access (ethernet wire to your laptop).
-chomo
MacSA said:
This is a mobile computer. School, airport, cafe, library even some entire city with "hotspot". If this is the only computer you have for the home, you'll still need to pay for internet access (ethernet wire to your laptop).
-chomo
A nice bump, but no more than that
As for faster, there is still no incentive to upgrade my iBook G3s (800MHz combo, and the $700, 900MHz combo blowout from Microcenter puchased as a backup after multiple logic board failures on the 800MHz model)
As others have noted, look for another bump when the Powerbook G5 is released at the end of summer, 2005.
Maybe we'll get the Freescale G4s with 1MB L2 cache at that time.
Surely we'll get a graphics card that fully supports Tiger by then.
As for faster, there is still no incentive to upgrade my iBook G3s (800MHz combo, and the $700, 900MHz combo blowout from Microcenter puchased as a backup after multiple logic board failures on the 800MHz model)
As others have noted, look for another bump when the Powerbook G5 is released at the end of summer, 2005.
Maybe we'll get the Freescale G4s with 1MB L2 cache at that time.
Surely we'll get a graphics card that fully supports Tiger by then.
Right, it's all eye candy. Core image will also see applications in user space, making it easier to program some things, and that should have benefit for animations, games, that part of the universe.Sharewaredemon said:
But the important thing to remember about all this graphics acceleration business is that there is nothing a GPU can do that can't also be done with a dumb frame buffer driven by a conventional CPU. Obviously there's a speed difference, but that doesn't mean you can't get things done.
I wonder if the latch was a new color-as ThinkSecret reported? And why no Zim or another popular DVD included as many kids or adults may want a dvdb to view out of the box, eg. imacs in 99/00 had a Pixar DVD bundeled ?.
I think its stupid to ship the low end iBook with a smaller hard drive than you can get in an iPod.
They gotta do something to make it "different" from the 12" poweroobk.. though a quick configuration makes your new ibook virtually a powerbook for $500 less.
stillwater said:I think its stupid to ship the low end iBook with a smaller hard drive than you can get in an iPod.
iBooks still dont support coreimage --> Tiger won't be released until at least april to match the new iBook lineup.
Since a lot of people will start asking tomorrow: "Should I buy now or wait for the next revision?" I'll post the specs of the next revision that is due sometime in spring next year.
- 1.33 and 1.5 Ghz processors
- BT standard
- 40 GB HD minimum
- GeForce 5200
- if Apple is really, really nice they'll have a SD option for the 12" as well
So here it is, go decide whether to buy now or wait
- 1.33 and 1.5 Ghz processors
- BT standard
- 40 GB HD minimum
- GeForce 5200
- if Apple is really, really nice they'll have a SD option for the 12" as well
So here it is, go decide whether to buy now or wait
Diatribe said:Since a lot of people will start asking tomorrow: "Should I buy now or wait for the next revision?" I'll post the specs of the next revision that is due sometime in spring next year.
- 1.33 and 1.5 Ghz processors
- BT standard
- 40 GB HD minimum
- GeForce 5200
- if Apple is really, really nice they'll have a SD option for the 12" as well
So here it is, go decide whether to buy now or wait
Tomorrow? no, give them a couple of hours...
now let's wait when the scams in ebay will start...
And i agree with your *next* setup, seems to be right for coreimage and we will receive Tiger in June
2 weeks before WWDC
Ensoniq said:
So you wanted a 12" Powerbook for the price of an iBook. Funny, because so do I.
The upgrade is great. iBook potential customers and switchers should be ecstatic right now. If I had to choose an iBook or 12" or 15" (low end) PB, I'd rather get any size iBook, as it does almost everything that I need to perfectly.
Apple better come out with the 1.5GHz G4 for the 12" and a better chip for everything else come January (or hopefully sooner), because I don't think people will be even looking at the PB unless they really really want the Aluminium look.
Jim_N_Tonik said:
Wrong.
The performance gains and features supported by Core Image ultimately depend on the graphics card. Graphics cards capable of pixel-level programming deliver the best performance. But Core Image automatically scales as appropriate for systems with older graphics cards, for compatibility with any Tiger-compatible Mac.
Mitthrawnuruodo said:Whishlist for Oct/Nov/Dec 2005:
* 12" iBook dual 1.5GHz G4
* 1280x1024 resolution
* 100 GB HD
* 512 MB RAM (which I upgrade to 1.5GB)
* Superdrive
* 64 MB VRAM (I don't really need any more, but an 128-256 option would be nice)
* Built-in Airport Express and Bluetooth (to early for WiMax, i guess)
- is this to much to ask for...?
May all your wishes come true!!!
But maybe you're talking about next spring iBook updates now? Anyway: go for it! So will I 
rdowns said:
You won't get that out of the people, no matter how hard you try.
Nice effort though.
This is good news, I've been waiting a few weeks to buy an iBook thanks to yopu guys out there. I`m glad I listened to you. I will be ordering a 12" when my next pay check arrives. the 12" is down 1000NOK from yesterday. (about £80).
So thanks again for all your helpful advice.
So thanks again for all your helpful advice.
UK Prices Yet Again A Ripoff
I'm saddened by the UK prices, which are £749, £899 and £1049 respectively.
Taking off VAT that is £637.45, £765.11 and £892.77 respectively.
Compared to the US prices of $999, $1299, $1499 at a generous exchange rate of 1.75 dollars to the pound, that is $1115, $1339 and $1562.
A difference of $116, $40 and $63 respectively, making the 14" Combo Drive model the best option in the UK for people who don't want to get ripped off by the Apple Foreign Markup Tax.
I was expecting the 12" to cost £699 myself (£595 ex VAT, or $1041).
I wanted the 12" ...
Does anyone remember what yesterday's iBook prices were, for comparison? I intended to save them, but forgot. Ah, hooray for old news stories online:
The three new iBooks are priced at £799/$1099 (1GHz 12in Combo), £899/$1299 (1GHz 14in Combo) and £1049/$1499 (1.2GHz 14in Combo). All UK prices include VAT.
So 200MHz + Wireless for £-50, 333MHz + Wireless for nothing and 133MHz + Wireless + DVDR for nothing.
I'm saddened by the UK prices, which are £749, £899 and £1049 respectively.
Taking off VAT that is £637.45, £765.11 and £892.77 respectively.
Compared to the US prices of $999, $1299, $1499 at a generous exchange rate of 1.75 dollars to the pound, that is $1115, $1339 and $1562.
A difference of $116, $40 and $63 respectively, making the 14" Combo Drive model the best option in the UK for people who don't want to get ripped off by the Apple Foreign Markup Tax.
I was expecting the 12" to cost £699 myself (£595 ex VAT, or $1041).
I wanted the 12" ...
Does anyone remember what yesterday's iBook prices were, for comparison? I intended to save them, but forgot. Ah, hooray for old news stories online:
The three new iBooks are priced at £799/$1099 (1GHz 12in Combo), £899/$1299 (1GHz 14in Combo) and £1049/$1499 (1.2GHz 14in Combo). All UK prices include VAT.
So 200MHz + Wireless for £-50, 333MHz + Wireless for nothing and 133MHz + Wireless + DVDR for nothing.
Great pricing
A nice upgrade--speed/wireless--for less $!
Student/teacher pricing starts at $899 for a special CD-only model--mainly for school labs of course, but it does create a very low entry price. $50 more gets you DVD and CD-RW, though, so go for that unless you already have those things and budget is tight. (Or, add an external later. Same goes for RAM if you need to cut up-front cost.)
And of course there's the free printer (or $30 printer/scanner/copier) that always comes with Macs. I mention it because people like to add that item when quoting Dell prices, as though free printers are something rare
A nice upgrade--speed/wireless--for less $!
Student/teacher pricing starts at $899 for a special CD-only model--mainly for school labs of course, but it does create a very low entry price. $50 more gets you DVD and CD-RW, though, so go for that unless you already have those things and budget is tight. (Or, add an external later. Same goes for RAM if you need to cut up-front cost.)
And of course there's the free printer (or $30 printer/scanner/copier) that always comes with Macs. I mention it because people like to add that item when quoting Dell prices, as though free printers are something rare
rdowns said:
Ah cool, thanks for the info. I might as well buy a new iBook then...
(Although, yes, I have to do this, although 30 gigs is poooooooooooor. Only the 12" makes sense for me. Can't believe they only give you *one* default config for the 12"er. Superdrive and better graphics card would've been nice).
Addendum:
As for price. The German price for the 12" is at $1142 (excluding tax). $140 more because... because, uh...
We feel so special when we're getting ripped off...
