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New iBooks Released

kbonnel said:
I hope to see PB updates next. I am really thinking of selling my PB15" 1.5, and getting a PB12" (and a G5 Desktop). I will only get a 12" if they increase the LCD resolution. 1024x768 won't cut it for me :(

Kimo
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You think they will put 1280x1024 on 12"? Don't think so myself. They could change the technology used on the display instead and get better (?) results with the same resolution. We'll see eventually.
 
apple did a great job with the updates!!!! we now have a 80 gig in the ibook and a 1.33 sweeeeeet im stoked with the updates!! :D
 
Ensoniq said:
Saying "CoreImage scales as needed" is the same as "Quartz Extreme scales as needed", meaning "you don't get the fancy crap with an old video card". It is for that reason, and that the iMac has the 5200, that I felt the iBook should have it too. Buying an iBook today means replacing my iMac DV that can't support Quartz Extreme with a new machine that won't fully support CoreImage enhancements. That is a disappointment, no matter how you try to justify it.
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Actually Apple NEVER CLAIMED that Quartz X is scalable. From the beginning, they said you'd need minimum 16 MB GPU to take advantage of it.

In the case of CoreImage, it's different. They ARE touting it as scalable. And there is no minimum spec for it. Of course, we have no idea what Apple mean when they say "scalable." Does it mean that certain features are just turned off or that they're at lower frame rates?

On an iBook with a Radeon 9200/32 MB VRAM, I am not going to get the water-ripple when Dashboard opens. Why? Because even though I will still be able to run Tiger, I won't get any of the CoreImage special effects.
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Are you presuming here or speaking from experience. I have no idea if this is true since I haven't seen the develolper copies. Can anyone, who's running Tiger on an iBook, confirm this??
 
dongmin said:
Can anyone, who's running Tiger on an iBook, confirm this??
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also can you let me know who is going to the win the superbowl in january when you file your report from the future?

(even the developer preview is no indication of what tiger will be like. maybe ripple, maybe no. Is ripple a selling point? You can run apps built with CoreImage on any ibook that will run tiger. end of story.)

(p.s. I can play ut2004 on my cube even tho it was way below the recommended spec. sur eI havta turn some stuff off, but it runs.)
 
aswitcher said:
Seems that way...so whilst tasty the iBooks lack the 64 coreimage ram that would have really made them a performer under Tiger. Shame.
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I just don't get it, when Apple puts out the specs for Core Image included in Tiger, and they make a BIG DEAL about why oh why did they not make it GPU minimal compatible with that.

Unless Apple will change the GPU requirements for CoreImage to this 32MB minimum. Hmm :)
 
HiRez said:
All this does is make is painful clear to me how long the PowerBook G4s have been languishing, and how underpowered they're starting to look not only vs. Wintel laptops but even now vs. iBooks. Better get that dual-G4 17" PowerBook prototype dusted off, Apple. A lot of people aren't going to wait 6-12 months for a G5 PowerBook (most likely 2.0 GHz at the most). I have three grand burning a hole in my pocket but I will not be spending it on one of the current G4 PowerBooks. *sigh*
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same here just waiting for that damn uppgrade..
 
dongmin said:
Actually Apple NEVER CLAIMED that Quartz X is scalable. From the beginning, they said you'd need minimum 16 MB GPU to take advantage of it.

In the case of CoreImage, it's different. They ARE touting it as scalable. And there is no minimum spec for it. Of course, we have no idea what Apple mean when they say "scalable." Does it mean that certain features are just turned off or that they're at lower frame rates?
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Then why does CoreImage have a supported GPU minimum on Apples site. I believe scalable means the supported GPU minimum and higher. Plus the load on the GPU when working on image intensive applications.
 
Finaly

After much waiting around I just ordered a 12" with 60g HD and bluetooth.
This cost me about 1800NOK (£150) less than it would have yesterday. :)
My first Mac upgrade since my Performa 5400. Can`t wait to get my hans on it.
 
No New PowerBooks This Year

No new PowerBooks this year according to a statement made on MacCentral by Apple. This line of iBooks and the current crop of PowerBooks will be the last revisions for this year.

It's looking more and more clear that the PB G5 will be introduced at MWSF '05 and the Third Generation G5 (3.0+ GHz DualCore?) will be available in the February to March timeframe... probably the same time as OS X 10.4.

Quite and interesting set of months coming up. I think we will see the x800 an BTO option in PowerMacs soon, too. Sweet....
 
Frobozz said:
No new PowerBooks this year according to a statement made on MacCentral by Apple. This line of iBooks and the current crop of PowerBooks will be the last revisions for this year.

It's looking more and more clear that the PB G5 will be introduced at MWSF '05 and the Third Generation G5 (3.0+ GHz DualCore?) will be available in the February to March timeframe... probably the same time as OS X 10.4.

Quite and interesting set of months coming up. I think we will see the x800 an BTO option in PowerMacs soon, too. Sweet....
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Well in that case can't wait till MWSF05 :D

I hope there is a G5 2.0GHz option, that is the one for me :)
 
m a y a said:
Then why does CoreImage have a supported GPU minimum on Apples site. I believe scalable means the supported GPU minimum and higher. Plus the load on the GPU when working on image intensive applications.
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There is a certain amount of debate as to weather CoreImage will scale to the CPU on low end systems. If this is the case, aside from a performance downgrade I would expect to see a feature downgrade, too.

My best guess is that CoreImage's exact specs are still in development and there might not be a definitive answer yet.
 
Frobozz said:
There is a certain amount of debate as to weather CoreImage will scale to the CPU on low end systems. If this is the case, aside from a performance downgrade I would expect to see a feature downgrade, too.

My best guess is that CoreImage's exact specs are still in development and there might not be a definitive answer yet.
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That is good, since this would seem that Apple has shot it's self in the foot.

We shall see in the Tiger GM copy. :)
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Yes, but it has been a while since Apple were even close to Moore's law, and its a bit of a shock, even though it's good for everybody who loves their Macs... :D

Hopefully they keep up the good work so I can buy myself a brand new 12" iBook for Christmas next year that will kick my current 800MHz G4's a*s...

Whishlist for Oct/Nov/Dec 2005:
* 12" iBook dual 1.5GHz G4
* 1280x1024 resolution
* 100 GB HD
* 512 MB RAM (which I upgrade to 1.5GB)
* Superdrive
* 64 MB VRAM (I don't really need any more, but an 128-256 option would be nice)
* Built-in Airport Express and Bluetooth (to early for WiMax, i guess)

- is this to much to ask for...? ;)
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why not a powerbok? why just a ibook?
my whishlist: (a little bir more realistic)

pb 12" (maby 13,3)
g4 1.5 ghz
512 mb
80 5400rpm Hdd
64 mb ati (opt 128)
superdrive
and all the standards.. :)
 
Zaty said:
Yes, of course. BT will become standard in the next revision. And you're probably also right about Tiger. So no Tiger before April/May.
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I don't read today's announcement of iBook refreshes to have ANY impact on the release date of Tiger. That said, I don't think Tiger will be available until April 1 or so.

I would not be surprised to see a slight PowerBook refresh before Tiger.
 
Porchland said:
I don't read today's announcement of iBook refreshes to have ANY impact on the release date of Tiger. That said, I don't think Tiger will be available until April 1 or so.

I would not be surprised to see a slight PowerBook refresh before Tiger.
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Isn't BT v.2.0 waiting for approval. Has anyone been following that news?
 
wrong info on the apple store?

did anyone else notice that when you click on an ibook config on the apple store, the summary at the top right shows the wrong processor speed? am i doing something wrong here?

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what a difference nine years makes

1995
Powerbook 5300ce
117MHz PPC 603e
32MB RAM 16kB cache 33.3MHz system bus
1.1GB HD
1.44 MB floppy disk (google this if you don't know what it is)
NO graphics card. 1MB graphics memory
640 x 480 active matrix color display
6.2 pounds
$6,800

2004
iBook 12" 1.2 Ghz G4
512K L2 Cache
256 MB Ram
30 GB Hard Drive
Combo Drive
Airport Extreme
$999
 
clabbe deinum said:
why not a powerbok? why just a ibook?
my whishlist: (a little bir more realistic)

pb 12" (maby 13,3)
g4 1.5 ghz
512 mb
80 5400rpm Hdd
64 mb ati (opt 128)
superdrive
and all the standards.. :)
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Dunno... always liked the iBooks (even though my last machine was a Pismo, and that is still going strong...). Of course if a PowerBooks meets my specs, and I have the money, then I might go for it, but I don't think I will buy a G4-based PB next Chirstmas... ;)

I think I will prefer a standard 12" to a 13" Widescreen, though... but I may change my mind when and if they're out... :)
 
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