Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
New iBooks Released
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
aswitcher said:
the 1GHz 12" powerbook had a 32MB core image gpu it's the gpu's features that define it's ability, i have a 16MB gpu and i have quartz extreme.
and about this scalability crap it scales as in it plain dont work on older macs i dant have any water effects or anything like that on my copy of 10.4 on my ibook.
about the prices..
The prices in Norway has gone down from 10490 NOK to 9490, a reduction of 1000 NOK. 100$ actually amount to under 700 Norwegian kroner, so the price reduction is greater over here (if the prices given now are correct).
I think Apple has yet to update their entire site, as I cant get into the education store, and some places the old price is given, not the new one. So other non-US residents, wait till tommorrow before you complain about the price , as the prices given on your pages may still be due for an update.
The prices in Norway has gone down from 10490 NOK to 9490, a reduction of 1000 NOK. 100$ actually amount to under 700 Norwegian kroner, so the price reduction is greater over here (if the prices given now are correct).
I think Apple has yet to update their entire site, as I cant get into the education store, and some places the old price is given, not the new one. So other non-US residents, wait till tommorrow before you complain about the price , as the prices given on your pages may still be due for an update.
Diatribe said:Since a lot of people will start asking tomorrow: "Should I buy now or wait for the next revision?" I'll post the specs of the next revision that is due sometime in spring next year.
- 1.33 and 1.5 Ghz processors
- BT standard
- 40 GB HD minimum
- GeForce 5200
- if Apple is really, really nice they'll have a SD option for the 12" as well
So here it is, go decide whether to buy now or wait
You should submit this post as "big news" in late March/early April. Chances are good you're going to hit the jackpot with your prediction
As for the SD option on the 12", it depends on the fate of the 12" PB. Should Apple change the form-factor of the low-end PB or (unlikely) drop it altogether), Apple might offer a SD option.rdowns said:
Although that statement is true, is reminiscent to the Quartz/Quartz Extreme issues faced by anyone with less than 16 MB VRAM.
On my current iMac DV with a Rage 128/8 MB VRAM, I don't get the spinning-cube on Fast User Switching. Why? Because even though I can still run Panther, I don't get any of the Quartz Extreme special effects.
On an iBook with a Radeon 9200/32 MB VRAM, I am not going to get the water-ripple when Dashboard opens. Why? Because even though I will still be able to run Tiger, I won't get any of the CoreImage special effects.
Saying "CoreImage scales as needed" is the same as "Quartz Extreme scales as needed", meaning "you don't get the fancy crap with an old video card". It is for that reason, and that the iMac has the 5200, that I felt the iBook should have it too. Buying an iBook today means replacing my iMac DV that can't support Quartz Extreme with a new machine that won't fully support CoreImage enhancements. That is a disappointment, no matter how you try to justify it.
Yes, I could buy the PowerBook 12", but that's not really the point. The 5200 is already 1.5 years old. To not include it in the iBook with Tiger around the corner was just stupid. The issue isn't expecting a 12" PowerBook at iBook prices. The issue is expecting a CoreImage compliant video card so that I'm not buying something today that is already somewhat "left behind" the technology that has already been announced.
jet3004 said:
I agree with you 1000000%. Computers constantly get better. The new low ends eventually (and, by eventually, I mean 6 months
) become far better than the old top of the line machines.I paid $1500 for an iMac G3 400MHz DV SE. YOU, today, can buy a bottom of the barrell iBook for cheaper and destroy what my old computer could do.
Yes, so PB will look a little stale for awhile. Right now, the plan is to hook in newbies with a low price point.
I'd say IN three weeks b/c next Tuesday is the iTMS/U2/iPod/whatever event, so Apple will want to get as much attention as they can get for whatever they're announcing then. One week later would be a possibility, but I think they might want to keep the 60 gig colour display iPod (or whatever) on the front page for more than a just a week. So my guess is, new PBs on November 9.itsa said:
I was going to buy an iBook on Saturday before a business trip.
Reserved a 12" 1.2ghz with combo and airport to pick up tonight.
The speed bump and the airport for less money clinched the deal.
949.00 with an educational discount.
Reserved a 12" 1.2ghz with combo and airport to pick up tonight.
The speed bump and the airport for less money clinched the deal.
949.00 with an educational discount.
Ensoniq said:
What about the amount of VRAM you need for Core Image? Will my Rev. B 12" PB w/32 megs be okay? Or do you need 64 megs to take fully advantage of Core Image?
None of the current notebooks support Tiger's 64-bit modules, or even the multiprocessing features of the current OS X, or tons of other model-specific details. So what? The iBook and eMac are the low end models, so they get low end features. It's still better than the shared-memory deal you get in the Wintel low end.Ensoniq said:
Except for the fact that a PB update is around the corner, at the moment the 12" PB still makes sense over the 12" iBook for a lot of customers:
*1.33 GHz vs. 1.2
*167MHz system bus vs. 133
*DDR333 vs. DDR266 memory
*64MB VRAM vs. 32
*slightly lighter and smaller
*support for external monitor, not just mirroring
*built-in bluetooth
*faster HD BTO option
So, you do get more than a silver case for the price difference between a PB and and an iBook. And the price difference is even less with educational pricing, which takes more off the PB.
*1.33 GHz vs. 1.2
*167MHz system bus vs. 133
*DDR333 vs. DDR266 memory
*64MB VRAM vs. 32
*slightly lighter and smaller
*support for external monitor, not just mirroring
*built-in bluetooth
*faster HD BTO option
So, you do get more than a silver case for the price difference between a PB and and an iBook. And the price difference is even less with educational pricing, which takes more off the PB.
Maybe they want to bump them on Nov. 2 so no one notices, what with the elections and all. Maybe it's not so good, as per the lackluster bump we get today. Not that a lot of us were expecting much more, but I'd take 64MB graphics and 40GB drive over built-in AirPort any day.Zaty said:
i say youre right there. it now seems likely the powerbook will have a major update (all new line?) in januarybrap said:This makes my 1.33GHz $1600 Powerbook feel very queasy
On the plus side, my missus can have a wicked fast iBook for very little cash. Can we assume Apple have something very, very, very special for the next pb revision, if they're going to push these lines so close together?
Zaty said:
the iBook isn't made for developers and such. It's for the casual consumer. Is there a big need for CoreImage when using Office?
Still, I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool to have CoreImage on iBook. It would just cost a little more and the price wouldn't be 999.
denm316 said:
exactly. if i didn't have my 1.8dp now, i'd definitely be looking after the 12" ibook and just stick 512mb more ram inside it. that would be a kick ass deal in my opinion.
ewinemiller said:
The "previous" (i.e., a week ago) iBooks already had 512KB L2 Cache. The*only* difference in this update is CPU/cache speed and built-in AE instead of optionnal. Oh, and 100$US price drop.
B.T.W.: if you can order from the USA store, check out the "special deals" page... The previous 12" iBook is now available for 799$US.
Diatribe said:
Sorry if this sounds cheap, but Apple has virtually no presence in Canada either (except for the Canadian website, which isn't even a .ca, it's in .com/ca/).
We need ITMS Canada and Apple Stores too! (and not just Toronto and Vancouver either).
Zaty said:You should submit this post as "big news" in late March/early April. Chances are good you're going to hit the jackpot with your prediction
Can someone please tell what "SD" means? Because to me, it's Secure Digital flash cards...
SD=Super Drive.Yvan256 said:
That's the Apple name for a DVD-R burner
Can't wait for the SuperDrive Extreme (DVD blue-ray support ?)
I'm just impressed that Apple has a product available to buy on (basically) the day it is released. They should strive for this more often. How long ago were the 30-inch cinema displays announced?