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New iMac Reportedly in Advanced Stage of Development

JoshNori said:
Yep. Actually, at least 27”. I actually want a 32”. A 24” monitor in 2023? Bish bye.
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The resolution of a 32-inch iMac with Retina display is 6016 x 3384 pixels, also known as 6K resolution. This high resolution allows for extremely sharp and detailed images and text on the screen.

maybe that's the reason why no 32-inch iMac as the 6k display is too costly now.

  • Apple Pro Display XDR: Starts at $4,999 USD
  • Dell UltraSharp UP3221Q: Starts at $4,999 USD
  • Eizo ColorEdge CG319X: Starts at $5,999 USD
  • LG 32UL950-W: Starts at $1,299 USD
 
sunny5 said:
I doubt it. M3 wont be ready until A17 is ready cause they all are 3nm based chips.
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I also find it hard to believe M3 is coming this soon. Mark Gurman can't seem to get his head-rumors straight. M2 Ultra Mac Pro plus M3 iMac? It just all sounds like nonsense, and I don't believe anything other than it makes sense if a new iMac is coming as well as an M2 Ultra chip. I think it's likely we'll see an M2 iMac and an M2 Mac Studio this year, but no Mac Pro. But if that's what we get, everyone will somehow still keep believing Gurman knows things. I still laugh when I think about his glass iPad Pro charged by a magsafe puck.
 
I had one of the new iMacs for a bit, we traded it in for some money off a Mac Studio. But I'd reconsider one if I could get one with a better refresh rate and larger size and...better colors. I really like the red but I'm not fond of the front of it.
 
jtdx99 said:
24" is unusable!
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The nonstop dissing pf 24in. display, AIO design, and any colours other than black or Space Grey is completely ridiculous.

If you folks hate the iMac so much then why are you bothering to even comment on it? All your vitriol isn’t going to change a thing. It’s certainly note going to convince Apple they should be listening to you instead of their own engineers, product designers and market research.
 
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Mr. Dee said:
If you look at Apple's strategy, the MBA's at the company drove the decision how the product line should drive more expensive purchase decisions. Instead of buying a 27 inch AIO, you can actually get more from the potential buyer with a Mac Mini M2 Pro and Apple Studio Display. So, instead of spending 1,699, you end up spending 2,900. Even better if you can get that customer up to a Mac Studio.
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Except that’s not how it works.

Let’s say a consumer decides to buy an iMac, and maybe their budget is $2K

They find out apple doesn’t sell a 27” iMac anymore. They are forced to by something else. Okay they settle on the M2 Pro Mac mini with some upgrades for $1,699. They also need to buy a monitor, but now they only have $300 left. Most consumers here are not magically going to add $1,300 to their budget. Most consumers would find a non-Apple 4K monitor for around $300 instead.

In this scenario Apple just lost $300 because the consumer didn’t have enough money left over to buy an Apple monitor. So they went 3rd party.

Sure there are a few people that are willing to shell out $1,600 for a monitor, But to think most people are just magically adding an extra $1,600 to their budget is just silly.

Apple upsells but only by a few hundred. If apple was able to put the guts of an M2 Pro Mac mini into a 27” iMac - and charge $2,299 for it - this hypothetical person with the $2K budget now just may be willing to spend $300 more. That’s at least more realistic.

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catcat2020 said:
The resolution of a 32-inch iMac with Retina display is 6016 x 3384 pixels, also known as 6K resolution. This high resolution allows for extremely sharp and detailed images and text on the screen.

maybe that's the reason why no 32-inch iMac as the 6k display is too costly now.

  • Apple Pro Display XDR: Starts at $4,999 USD
  • Dell UltraSharp UP3221Q: Starts at $4,999 USD
  • Eizo ColorEdge CG319X: Starts at $5,999 USD
  • LG 32UL950-W: Starts at $1,299 USD
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The Apple Studio Display refresh rate is a dealbreaker for the high price. The Pro XDR is compelling but priced for someone above money.

The simple fact is that they need to make less profit on the Studio Display and price them to sell to anyone with a MacBook. No one’s wants to spend more on their Studio Display than their MacBook Air. It’s simply unjustifiable.

iMac 24” - $1,399
iMac 27” - $1,699
Studio Display - $1,199 with no stand upgrades

This is the only pricing structure that makes any sense for most people. They’re just introducing these menial differences to drag another $200-$300 out of people all across the display and iMac lineups, and it’s killing the sale! I can afford any price for the display, but I won’t buy at these greedy prices. Not enough of an upgrade from a $200 Thunderbolt display. Must they absolutely con people in their pricing?
 
Jorbanead said:
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Except that’s not how it works.

Let’s say a consumer decides to buy an iMac, and maybe their budget is $2K

They find out apple doesn’t sell a 27” iMac anymore. They are forced to by something else. Okay they settle on the Mac mini pro with some upgrades for $1,699. They also need to buy a monitor, but now they only have $300 left. Most consumers here are not magically going to add $1,300 to their budget. Most consumers would find a non-Apple $4K monitor for around $300 instead.

In this scenario Apple just lost $300 because the consumer didn’t have enough money left over to buy an Apple monitor. So they went 3rd party.

Sure there are a few people that are willing to shell out $1,600 for a monitor, But to think most people are just magically adding an extra $1,600 to their budget is just silly.

Apple upsells but only by a few hundred. If apple was able to put the guts of a Mac mini pro into a 27” iMac - and charge $2,299 for it - this hypothetical person with the $2K budget now just may be willing to spend $300 more. That’s at least more realistic.
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I don’t know what a Mac mini pro is, but I’m mostly with you here. Apple’s not realizing people are already blowing their wad on the $1,800 laptops. They’re not gonna turn around and do it again on their monitor. They’re gonna get a $30 laptop riser stand and a mouse instead. Lol. They would sell much better if the monitor was $1,000 rather than $1,700. It’s so stupid.
 
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257Loner said:
Sounds like it's just going to be an M2 refresh. 🥱
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Yeah, highly unlikely they’re bringing out anything spectacular for something that was so limited on specs in the first iteration.

But even with that in mind, I would be getting one in this design if it they put out a 27” model or bigger with baseline M3 or M3 Pro and let us put 32GB RAM in it.

But I guess Apple wants us to buy a Studio Display and a Mac mini or Mac Studio.

There’s also never been a substantial leak of anything related to an iMac Pro or any kind of >24” iMac.

Please prove me wrong, Timothy Apple! 🙏😔
 
melliflu said:
Full screen estate or still with that gigantic notch at bottom that looks so 1990?
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Apple ain’t ditching a design that was introduced only 2 years ago come April 2023.

Apple doesn’t even do that for a device that outsells all Macs combined, the iPhone.

At best, you can expect tweaks to the colors and the number and types of ports on the back (probably USB-C for the included mice and keyboard).

Overall, sounds more like a very restrained spec bump where the only really new and exciting change is the jump from M1 to M3, but not a lot of changes besides that.

Very disappointing if this is the kind of products that Apple is introducing M3 with.

To me, this is the equivalent of Apple introducing the A17 in an iPhone SE.
 
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Given how long it has been, I suspect Apple is no longer interested in the 27" iMac.

I wanted an updated one in 2021 but got tired of waiting so picked up an M1 Max 16" MBP and LG UltraFine (later upgraded to the Studio Display). Sure, it's a nice setup but it cost me significantly more than a 27" iMac would have.
 
The 24" iMac is probably the oddest product in Apple's lineup right now. Whatever you think of the design, it seems clearly designed and marketed to scare away Pro users. Its design is also like no other product that Apple sells - including the MacBook Air.

Together with the fact that Apple has discontinued the 27" iMac, Apple seems to be saying: Hey Pro users, forget the all-in-one concept. The Mac + Display is where's it's at now. (And yeah, we're very happy to receive the extra money for that.)
 
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daanodinot said:
The 24" iMac is probably the oddest product in Apple's lineup right now. Whatever you think of the design, it seems clearly designed and marketed to scare away Pro users. Its design is also like no other product that Apple sells - including the MacBook Air.

Together with the fact that Apple has discontinued the 27" iMac, Apple seems to be saying: Hey Pro users, forget the all-in-one concept. The Mac + Display is where's it's at now. (And yeah, we're very happy to receive the extra money for that.)
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The 24" iMac gets a lot of vitriol on here - despite the fact it is basically the same computer as the MacBook Air.

Forum poster:

"The M1 MBA is still a great computer - it serves a lot of people's needs"

*Puts M1 MBA into a desktop computer with a a larger screen, great webcam and speakers, interesting design*

"The iMac 24 inch is garbage!!!"

Remember there were strong rumors that the MacBook Air was going to get iMac like colors - I wonder when that design changed. They clearly were going to go for it. Maybe iMac sales convinced them not to do it.
 
Adelphos33 said:
The 24" iMac gets a lot of vitriol on here - despite the fact it is basically the same computer as the MacBook Air.

Forum poster:

"The M1 MBA is still a great computer - it serves a lot of people's needs"

*Puts M1 MBA into a desktop computer with a a larger screen, great webcam and speakers, interesting design*

"The iMac 24 inch is garbage!!!"

Remember there were strong rumors that the MacBook Air was going to get iMac like colors - I wonder when that design changed. They clearly were going to go for it. Maybe iMac sales convinced them not to do it.
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Not vitriol. You only have to look at the iMac to see that it's unlike all the other Macs. The colors, the white bezels, the empty chin. Like I said: even if you love the design, it's clearly the odd one out.
 
The 24” iMac is a lovely computer, I’m very pleased with mine. Bought it when the Apple Studio Display wasn’t yet announced, but I don’t think I would have wanted to pay the extra to get it and a Mac Mini just for the 3” of extra display space anyway.

The M1 is capable, but it could do with more GPU, I’m sure that a few years down the line people will think the PS4-level graphics power is insufficient for games, and thats why an upgrade to M3 will make it a better machine.
 
The original G3 iMac was unlike anything else on the computer market at the time. It flew in the face of bland beige, gray or black towers, monitors and accessories cluttering up desks everywhere. Everything else were eysores. The iMac was a breath of fresh air and it looked like the future that science fiction had promised us.

Along the way Apple mainstreamed the iMac and in later years even largely neglected it. Externally it still looked better than anything else on the market, but internally it was hobbled unless you opted for higher specs.

The current iMac resurrects the appeal of the original G3. It’s enjoyable to look at again. It’s bold again in a sea of silver, gray and muted plastic devices. And like the MacBook Air it’s a mainstream device that can do a fair degree of pro work. I’m somewhat disappointed Apple went with such muted colours on the MacBook Air. The world could use more colour these past few years.

If you don’t like it then look at something else.

As said upthread, the affordable large screen iMac is most likely dead. Nonstop raging won’t bring it back.

Looking at the Studio Display it’s not a stretch to think that just might have been the initial plan for the 27in. iMac given the internal hardware, audio setup and its sturdy construction. Theoretically it could still be, but somewhere along the line Apple changed their minds about it and elected to go with two separate devices rather than one, Mac Studio and Studio Display. If they had stuck to the initial concept then the 27in. iMac would have been a $3000+ device.
 
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