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I must be strange, I actually like typing on laptop keyboards. Though I wish if Apple was gunna go that route, that they would have added backlighting as an option. and I wish they would offer a fullsized wireless option.

Ya, the option of picking which keyboard you want would be great, and backlighting would be a great feature. And as somone else said how on earth can you get rid of the num pad! I mean on laptops its not there for size reasons. The imac is 10 times the size of the keyboard already on your desk. Surely they could fit the extra 3 inches on the end of the keyboard.
 
I was going to buy two new iMacs but I think I might buy the old white ones instead. I have a Glossy Macbook and i too see all of the crap moving out my window reflected back on the screen. With my current iMac the screen is fine. The Matt is better for me. If I was in a dark room looking at porno all of the time...well maybe:p

Ya a non-gloss screen would be a well needed option as well.
 
Anyone wish that the new iMac looked like the concept created by a MacRumors user a few weeks ago?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-d_CHY92Aw


He wasn't that far off, and his design was much better... and no structural reason it couldn't have been made.

But I am glad... makes my BlackBook the coolest Mac available... still!

How did I miss that???? That is an awesome concept!!!!!!!!!
Love how the screen is centered vertically and I like the idea of moving the desktop around, almost like an extended desktop without the extra monitors!

BTW... still HATE the BT keyboard layout after hours of mulling it over.... also don't like that they did take the :apple: off of Command key....
 
Disappointing. The new design has grown on me, but tell me, Why did they put in graphics cards (2400 xt) that are meant for DX10?! They could have gotten much better DX9 cards for the same price! Also, I expected (although maybe this was unrealistic) at least a 2.16Ghz processor in the lowest offering. I've got the edu discount, though, so I'll probably get the 1499 (1399 for me) version. Between the processor, the video card and hard drive it's worth it. If the processor is upgradable, I can always do that later.:D
 
It's nice to see an update to the iMac finally, but after all this waiting, what they showed off today was definitely a let down. So I'm supposed to get excited about a slightly redesigned case (and not all for the better--wtf is up with that fugly black border?) and some bumps in the specs? And now the low-cost option is gone too.

After all this time, that's it? And they're still using laptop-class components just so the enclosure can be thinner. Gah! This is insane. Apple can do better. They just put out a dream of a cell phone which is appropriate as it looks like this "new" iMac was phoned in. I was hoping for something a little more jaw-dropping and hard to resist.

This is a so-so effort for a company known for going all out.
 
Thank You-thank You-thank You!

Seriously, Thank You Apple! I was getting worried that my 24" Mactel would look dated, and be in dire need of an upgrade less than a year after I purchased it.

You've just saved me from purchasing a new computer... For "at least" another year.

Arigatou
 
Intel Core 2 Extreme

Hi all,

I'm about to buy my first Mac. Just need help with one thing. Is the Intel Core 2 Extreme worth the extra $$$?

Thx!
 
Hmm. I'm pretty disappointed with this revision.

:) I like: new keyboards & generally lower price point.

:( I dislike: black elements of the design, poor GFX, glossy screen, no real innovation.

It looks a lot like a Philips LCD display I had briefly a few weeks ago; that beast really attracted finger prints and grime. Moreover, the aluminum & black combination just looks very middle-of-the-road and not very Apple-like.

Has Ive lost it? I'm sorry to say it seems he has.
 
Well coming from a PC user for some 20 years I am extremely happy about the new changes and can not wait to get one! I will be either dual booting or using parallels to play the only game I ever play on the PC, Madden 2008. The card is good enough for the game so I am happy.

I can't wait to join the apple "crew" as this will be my first ever :) You all know your first was always special lol
 
That's your answer then. Above $1,800 you're better off getting a Mac Pro as it is.
You can't make a blanket statement like that. A $2200 iMac with a 24" display suits many peoples needs (like mine). Spending $2.3K on a tower - and another several hundred on a display - is not economical or "clean". It all depends on what you need.

I'm quite excited about the new iMac (I'm getting a good laugh from people stating things like "Thanks Apple, my old iMac looks better!" - I definitely believe the new design is a step above the whiteMac). Apple's been moving all white, and it's nice to see them sidestep the old tradition. It definitely looks like more of a pro machine. I now have to decide between the 2.4GHz and X7900! The price to step up to 2GB ram is actually reasonable ($150 at Apple, $101 at Crucial - a tad expensive but not crazy).$150 for the ram, $100 for the drive upgrade, $250 for the processor... I'm just not sure. I'll have to weight the options. I was planning on doing some gaming, but with the lackluster vid card I'm not so sure... I do some FCP/CS2 work, but very little. Mostly bittorrent, media conversion, and the usual internet stuff. The extra $500 for the 2.8GHz is a bit high, but the extra drive/ram bump may deem it worthy. Ack! Decisions...
 
Disappointing. The new design has grown on me, but tell me, Why did they put in graphics cards (2400 xt) that are meant for DX10?! They could have gotten much better DX9 cards for the same price! Also, I expected (although maybe this was unrealistic) at least a 2.16Ghz processor in the lowest offering. I've got the edu discount, though, so I'll probably get the 1499 (1399 for me) version. Between the processor, the video card and hard drive it's worth it. If the processor is upgradable, I can always do that later.:D

The GPUs are there likely for the video features. Even though DX9 cards could have cost less, they would still be left with heat issues from more powerful cards, when they can get newer technology that performs better with a lower TDP than the old cards.

I don't think there is much between the 2GHz @ 800MHz FSB and 2.16GHz @ 667MHz. They would have had to have been 2.2GHz anyway, and that's probably not far off an extra $75 difference for Apple. They need to differentiate between models to get people to buy higher up the range which this also accomplishes.
 
Maybe I'm not measuring accurately, but it appears to me the chin is 20% shorter.

No, it's still there. It's just behind the black border around the monitor.

I can reduce the chin on my 20" white iMac by wrapping black electrical tape, .75" wide around the monitor and get the same effect.:eek:
 
Basically, with Apple's design, the foot has to fit the shoe.

After all the endless iPhone hype, which I had zero interest in, I was still vainly holding out hope for the iMac.

I'm beginning to think that this whole thin, thinner, design arrogance of the iMac is just an excuse. How otherwise will they be unable to put a better GPU in there? If it didn't keep getting thinner, they wouldn't be able to keep putting obsolete stuff in there. Look at the track record of the iMacs. Always crippled with a GPU that is just about to be obsolete (or already obsolete in this "new" iMac) but bundled with a screen, keyboard, mouse and stuff you don't want but that if you buy, are things that you generally use for at least 3 - 4 years. If you don't like that deal, THEN **** GO BUY A PC NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO BUY APPLE, APPLE DOESN'T OWE YOU ANYTHING YOU IDIOT, yadda yadda, as the fanbois and Apple schills will inform you. But over the past two years, the performance curve of the iMacs hasn't gone up much, relative to PCs. This wouldn't have been relevant in the PPC days, of course.

The only reason for buying Apple is because you don't want to be in the mess of the Windows world or have to have the big configuration headache of Linux and it's lack of peripheral support. Thus Apple's arrogance because they own the only credible alternative OS, for the moment.

It's not so much that I'm going to be a heavy gamer, even if I never game, I don't like paying more for less just to pad Apple's profit margin. Guess that means that I'm just not the kind of customer Apple wants.

The 2400 sux. Especially coz it's gonna be clocked way down to start with. You might as well buy Mini - which is STILL not even x3000 yet. Guess Steve is making a point with that GMA950 after so many revisions. Wanna bet it will still be what the Mini (and Macbook) gets in 2009?

Oh yeah, and that new case design sux worse than if it were designed by some cheap PC manufacturer trying to rip off an Apple design.
 
Are these Imacs stable or do you think they will have issues since they are a Rev A model? How aboout overheating issues, etc. I usually never buy a product that has been just released so I am interested if anyone out there think there may be some issues with these models since they are thinner?

Do you think I would be better off buying on old Imac now that the prices have dropped or is the new one worth it by a long run?

How much difference is there in the old imac vs the new one?????
 
agreed

Basically, with Apple's design, the foot has to fit the shoe.

After all the endless iPhone hype, which I had zero interest in, I was still vainly holding out hope for the iMac.

I'm beginning to think that this whole thin, thinner, design arrogance of the iMac is just an excuse. How otherwise will they be unable to put a better GPU in there? If it didn't keep getting thinner, they wouldn't be able to keep putting obsolete stuff in there. Look at the track record of the iMacs. Always crippled with a GPU that is just about to be obsolete (or already obsolete in this "new" iMac) but bundled with a screen, keyboard, mouse and stuff you don't want but that if you buy, are things that you generally use for at least 3 - 4 years. If you don't like that deal, THEN **** GO BUY A PC NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO BUY APPLE, APPLE DOESN'T OWE YOU ANYTHING YOU IDIOT, yadda yadda, as the fanbois and Apple schills will inform you. But over the past two years, the performance curve of the iMacs hasn't gone up much, relative to PCs. This wouldn't have been relevant in the PPC days, of course.

The only reason for buying Apple is because you don't want to be in the mess of the Windows world or have to have the big configuration headache of Linux and it's lack of peripheral support. Thus Apple's arrogance because they own the only credible alternative OS, for the moment.

It's not so much that I'm going to be a heavy gamer, even if I never game, I don't like paying more for less just to pad Apple's profit margin. Guess that means that I'm just not the kind of customer Apple wants.

The 2400 sux. Especially coz it's gonna be clocked way down to start with. You might as well buy Mini - which is STILL not even x3000 yet. Guess Steve is making a point with that GMA950 after so many revisions. Wanna bet it will still be what the Mini (and Macbook) gets in 2009?

Oh yeah, and that new case design sux worse than if it were designed by some cheap PC manufacturer trying to rip off an Apple design.

Yup, this is a real let-down. I agree with you completely.:(
 
The 2400 sux. Especially coz it's gonna be clocked way down to start with. You might as well buy Mini - which is STILL not even x3000 yet. Guess Steve is making a point with that GMA950 after so many revisions. Wanna bet it will still be what the Mini (and Macbook) gets in 2009?

Oh yeah, and that new case design sux worse than if it were designed by some cheap PC manufacturer trying to rip off an Apple design.

Well, a lot of people here don't seem to like the new design, but I don't mind it at all. The inclusion of the ATI video card does seem a little bit surprising, considering the fact that nVidia are dominating this market right now in the same way Intel is dominating the CPU market. But either way, it should be sufficient for most people as a basic home computer - which is the market that Apple favours (with the exception of the Mac Pro).

I might buy the basic model for my parents. As for me, I certainly have no regrets about building myself a PC instead - which is multiple times faster and also cheaper than the new iMac...
 
You can't make a blanket statement like that. A $2200 iMac with a 24" display suits many peoples needs (like mine). Spending $2.3K on a tower - and another several hundred on a display - is not economical or "clean". It all depends on what you need.

I'm quite excited about the new iMac (I'm getting a good laugh from people stating things like "Thanks Apple, my old iMac looks better!" - I definitely believe the new design is a step above the whiteMac). Apple's been moving all white, and it's nice to see them sidestep the old tradition. It definitely looks like more of a pro machine. I now have to decide between the 2.4GHz and X7900! The price to step up to 2GB ram is actually reasonable ($150 at Apple, $101 at Crucial - a tad expensive but not crazy).$150 for the ram, $100 for the drive upgrade, $250 for the processor... I'm just not sure. I'll have to weight the options. I was planning on doing some gaming, but with the lackluster vid card I'm not so sure... I do some FCP/CS2 work, but very little. Mostly bittorrent, media conversion, and the usual internet stuff. The extra $500 for the 2.8GHz is a bit high, but the extra drive/ram bump may deem it worthy. Ack! Decisions...

Exactly...I was going to get the 2.4 and upgrade to 2GB of RAM. At that point I'm thinking may as well get the 2.8. Arrrggghh! I'm ready to buy, but just can't decide to spend the extra $$$.
 
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