New iMacs Shipping January 2009?

[Mackilroy]

Funny how only the most high Steve has this problem, huh? What about the other companies that offer it as an option? Do they have those problems? The problems and fee structures are over-hyped to cover the ass of Apple. Period. Have you read the agreements for BR? I might suggest it. It would help you form an opinion more logically.

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Funny how the other companies that offer it don't design their software and hardware together, they just make hardware that runs Windows (which, as was pointed out, has plenty of DRM to let it play Blu-Ray discs in it).

I'm certain you don't want more DRM in Mac OS X, eh?

 

[Tallest Skil]

I hope there'll be no improvements for the 20" 1GB RAM iMac (because I just bought one a few weeks ago).

Keep dreaming.

You can return it up through January 9th. You'll have to pay a 10% restocking fee since you opened it.

 

[NyMetsFan08]

Merry Christmas everyone!!! I cannot wait to Macworld 2009. The final Macworld ever and its going to be awesome. iMacs with Nvidia I can see it now also a Mac Mini with Nvidia even better.

 

[LevMac]

Im really hoping the new iMac's have the same "backs" as the new 24" Cinema Displays with the black Apple logo, I know its a design thing, but it would look awesome !!

 

[Gregintosh]

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
HDD failures are zero to none.

WRONG!

As a certified computer technician with 3 years of experience in a retail setting diagnosing & fixing PCs, I have dealt with COUNTLESS hard drive failures on regular people's computers.

It is the one part of your PC that is the MOST likely to fail. Out of the hardware problems I have dealt with in fact, I would say (unscientific numbers here, just estimating based on my experience) about 85% were Hard Drive failures, 10% defective RAM chips, and 5% video cards, network cards, motherboards, and other miscellaneous hardware.

Going back to the topic of possibly new iMacs, I think the ONE option I would love to see is an SSD hard drive at a reasonable price, like a 256GB at a $499 upgrade price.

This would not only make it super-reliable, it would also provide a more significant speed boost (as far as the basic user experience is concerned) than modest processor upgrades.

And for those who question the effectiveness/speed difference of SSD hard drives for every day users, just compare the Macbook Air HD and SSD models side by side. No doubt, for large files or heavy operations, an HD might be more effective, but for launching programs and making things feel "snappier" (the user experience), SSD takes the cake hands down. I had a Macbook Air previously with the HD and upgraded it to an SSD and saw & felt a HUGE difference.

Totally wishful thinking, I know, but its the one thing above any other I would like to see as far as NEW things go -- of course I would expect all other hardware to be modernized at least a bit.

As far as the case design, I think they look fine just the way they are. They don't have to change things just for the sake of changing things. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Unless they have new ideas that provide some real benefits to users they shouldn't screw with the case design at all.

 

[djellison]

What exactly is it you dont like about time machine.

It's unreliable, cumbersome, overly complex for what I need. In the same way I wouldn't trust Microsoft to write Anti Virus software for XP/Vista, I don't trust them OR Apple to write backup software.

My personal experience with Time Machine (plus Time Capsule - which is just an NAS...or it should be) is backups being only partial, vanishing, not working. Like MobileMe 'Push' - you see one thing during the keynote, you get quite another in reality.

 

[sushi]

Unibody enclosure and NVIDIA chipset will make it impressive enough. Make it easier to change-out the memory, hard disks, and video card and that would be even sweeter. It should also get Apple's mini-port.

Yes this would be nice.

The same type of overall look, but with using a Unibody design with access to:

• Hard Drive
• RAM
• Video Card

Plus inclusion of the Mini DVI port.

Sweet!

 

[Tallest Skil]

Plus inclusion of the Mini DVI port.

You mean Mini DisplayPort port, right?

And it already IS unibody! the aluminum iMac case is made out of one piece of aluminum, plus the back, so it's built in the same way as the newest MacBooks...

 

[shyataroo]

But where would they put the Apple logo on the front!?

Didn't think of that, did'ja?

that is where the IR reciver for the remote is.

 

[Data]

BD Data Back up on mac is already possible...

DATA BACKUPS.

Or maybe you'd lose 50 gigs of data and not bat an eyelash.

I think i still havent seen anybody here mention that it is already possible to burn data disks on BD with an external burner and Toast 9, so if you wanna backup to those expensive BD disks instead of a HDD then you already can.

When it comes to watching movies in HD i don't think Apple wil do it, because of the already clear way there heading > iTunes downloads.

So i for 1 don't see BD coming to macs for some time, maybe in the macpro's as an option for Pro Editing purposes, but that would be it.

 

[Tallest Skil]

I think i still havent seen anybody here mention that it is already possible to burn data disks on BD with an external burner and Toast 9, so if you wanna backup to those expensive BD disks instead of a HDD then you already can.

The point was for native support.

But I also do not see Blu-ray coming to OS X for years, if at all.

 

[Data]

The point was for native support.

But I also do not see Blu-ray coming to OS X for years, if at all.

I was just saying, if you NEED to back up your data to a BD you already can so that's not a argument anymore in my opinion ;-).

I mean what does it matter if it's native or not, aslong as you can do it right.

I would backup to a raid or a Drobo device muck cheaper and for that to fail it would need 2 drives to fail at exectly the same time, that brings down the odds on failure quite a bit i think.

 

[MrZebra]

I was just saying, if you NEED to back up your data to a BD you already can so that's not a argument anymore in my opinion ;-).

I mean what does it matter if it's native or not, aslong as you can do it right.

People who really need it have already managed to use these alternatives, but being the iMac the "all in one" solution by apple, it's still a valid argument.

 

[darklighter]

I hope there'll be no improvements for the 20" 1GB RAM iMac (because I just bought one a few weeks ago).

Stop being selfish.

 

[NyMetsFan08]

Macworld 2009 Rundown:
1.) Snow Leopard Preview and a Release Date.
2.) New Mac Mini's- (Case Slightly Changed) or new name.
3.) Possibility of a Nvidia iMac Update an announcement.
4.) Talk about sales and hows everything going.
5.) Possibility of something big no one heard of a new product from Apple???
6.) No iPhone nano at Macworld maybe later on in the future. Those leak cases the company might think there releasing it at Macworld but might be holded off until WWDC.

 

[Data]

People who really need it have already managed to use these alternatives, but being the iMac the "all in one" solution by apple, it's still a valid argument.

It's just as valid as asking for a super high end Video card to be able to play all sorts of games on your all in one mac, won't happen either ;-).

Not that i would mind any of them , i think, dont know what kind of drm trouble you would extually get from having a BD drive in there.

 

[iMacmatician]

Wouldn't logic dictate that the upcoming update would merely be a spec bump and any major revisions/redesigns would be saved for the introduction of the new chipset in late '09?

Not necessarily. The iMac was redesigned in August 2007 with a regular chipset upgrade (Napa -> Santa Rosa). Plus, the NVIDIA chipset rumored to be in the upcoming iMacs is also new.

Stop being selfish.

It's a running joke across these forums. Sorta like "Safari is snappier" and the PowerBook G5 next Tuesday.

 

[MrZebra]

It's just as valid as asking for a super high end Video card to be able to play all sorts of games on your all in one mac, won't happen either ;-).

That's not the criteria I was using though. I was talking about the existance/absence of an element, the optical drive; nowadays the new standard seems to be this bluray thing hence my mention of the imac being the all in one. I wasn't talking about the range of quality of the devices included.

 

[davedepinoy]

If they're doing a total re-design, I guess they'll go with their current design-philosophy (which I really don't agree with at all) with cold conforming grey and black.
It'll look almost exactly like the new LED Cinema Display but the lower part of the black bezel frame being significantly bigger forming the iMac's trademarked "chin". I think it would be wise to release a new iMac (or even a Mac Pro with a new case design) when Snow Leopard's released and not anytime before that date.

 

[iMacmatician]

I think it would be wise to release a new iMac (or even a Mac Pro with a new case design) when Snow Leopard's released and not anytime before that date.

Why at the release of a new OS? It didn't happen the last time.

 

[Data]

That's not the criteria I was using though. I was talking about the existance/absence of an element, the optical drive; nowadays the new standard seems to be this bluray thing hence my mention of the imac being the all in one. I wasn't talking about the range of quality of the devices included.

I was just wondering are those BD drive's backwards compatible, i mean can they also play/burn audio/video and data cd/dvd/DL-dvd in the + and - variations ?

 

[sushi]

You mean Mini DisplayPort port, right?

Oops. Good catch. And right.

And it already IS unibody! the aluminum iMac case is made out of one piece of aluminum, plus the back, so it's built in the same way as the newest MacBooks...

I would say that the current iMac is not Unibody -- at least the way the current MB and MBP are.

What I would like to see, is a milled unibody type iMac with the same form factor. This iMac would be even thinner and lighter.

 

[AidenShaw]

I was just wondering are those BD drive's backwards compatible, i mean can they also play/burn audio/video and data cd/dvd/DL-dvd in the + and - variations ?

Of course.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136137

Write Speed

BD-R 6X
BD-RE 2X
DVD+R 16X
DVD+RW 8X
DVD-R 16X
DVD-RW 6X
CD-R 40X
CD-RW 24X
BD-R DL 4X
BD-RE DL 2X
DVD+R DL 4X
DVD-R DL 4X​

Read Speed

Blu-ray DVD-ROM 6X
DVD-ROM 16X
CD-ROM 40X​

 

[Tallest Skil]

What I would like to see, is a milled unibody type iMac with the same form factor. This iMac would be even thinner and lighter.

While the following point remains: WHY THE HECK IS THIS NECESSARY IN A DESKTOP?

 

[iMacmatician]

I would say that the current iMac is not Unibody -- at least the way the current MB and MBP are.

What I would like to see, is a milled unibody type iMac with the same form factor. This iMac would be even thinner and lighter.

Interesting. So there is some chance of a redesign at MWSF...

While the following point remains: WHY THE HECK IS THIS NECESSARY IN A DESKTOP?

Apple could make the case the same size to allow for better components. But I'm sure Apple will go the thinner and lighter route, although I wouldn't exclude better heat dissipation etc.