You should add "IMO" to any rubbish like this. Everyone has a different opinion and just because you like shouting about it a lot doesn't make yours any more valid than anyone elses.
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After 80% is a trickle charge to 100%. Up to 80% is very fast on a iPhone 6 or later.Ahh, so that's why we buy iPhones, so they can run out of battery and allow us more time to see the world!That could come right out of a Jony Ive monologue!
Right - I tested the iPhone 6's "fast charging" with an iPad 2 charger:
Phone dies at 8%, not very handy, since iOS 9 it's died randomly anywhere from 0-23%, I guess this is a new "feature" to make you think you have more battery than you do, it's never happened on my previous iPhone 3G/4/5 or 6 until iOS 9.
Put on charge, comes to life after a minute or two at 7% so test is already skewed in any case by inaccurate % indicator.
40 minutes charge gets me to 50% (indicated), 1 hour charge to 70%, 2hr10m to 100% indicated. So, to full charge not very fast really, but fairly quick to 50%. Presuming that's 50% and not really 40% or something. Certainly not up there with the main competition in any case. I do think Apple are starting to slip behind in most areas compared to Samsung and the iPhone 7 might be the point I "switch sides" unless it wows somehow.
Wasn't it obvious the post was "in his opinion" and not speaking for the masses like others do. Others post far more rubbish and claim to be able to take the pulse of the general populace.
People need to stop confusing iPhone 6 and newer charging with an iPad adaptor with Quick Charge found on Android flagships. They are not the same and in most cases, aren't even close
Everything I say is according to MY opinion.
Except benchmarks , demonstrating that the S7 isn't a better device overall. Those are objective.
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If your iPhone dies at 23% it's not iOS 9 to blame but a defective battery, since my former iPhone 6, my actual iPhone 6S and my wife's iPhone 5S, all running iOS 9.2.1, die exactly at 1%. Maybe your battery is just aging ...Ahh, so that's why we buy iPhones, so they can run out of battery and allow us more time to see the world!
Right - I tested the iPhone 6's "fast charging" with an iPad 2 charger:
Phone dies at 8%, not very handy, since iOS 9 it's died randomly anywhere from 0-23%, I guess this is a new "feature" to make you think you have more battery than you do, it's never happened on my previous iPhone 3G/4/5 or 6 until iOS 9.
Put on charge, comes to life after a minute or two at 7% so test is already skewed in any case by inaccurate % indicator.
40 minutes charge gets me to 50% (indicated), 1 hour charge to 70%, 2hr10m to 100% indicated. So, to full charge not very fast really, but fairly quick to 50%. Presuming that's 50% and not really 40% or something. Certainly not up there with the main competition in any case. I do think Apple are starting to slip behind in most areas compared to Samsung and the iPhone 7 might be the point I "switch sides" unless it wows somehow.
You're forgetting something: A8 20nm, A9 16/14nm, A10 (most likely TSMC 16nm)
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Most new Android devices support 18+ watt charging. The iPhone would charge up to 50% faster with that much current. OTOH, the iPad pro needs it much more than anything else. That sucker takes forever to charge on a 12 watt charger if you drain it all the way
Any chance that the phone can charge through the smart connector? That would allow better form factors for battery cases.dare to dream! I want both!
But if I had to choose I'd pick wireless. I'd benefit far more from that.
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Two guesses I have would be the obvious keyboard accessory as well as a smart cover (one that may allow some amount of use whole cover is on maybe?)
I don't believe the current standard allows for charging, but I wouldn't discount it completely.
I find it a bit funny that even after the release of the iPhone 7/7+/7pro (Oh God what a mess of names), the phones that will be more attractive in terms of functionality and costs will be the iPhone 6s/6s+/6+. I actually have the 6+ right now, and looking ahead now, I will probably keep this one while waiting for the iPhone 8. I'm come to terms with large phones now, since having a bigass battery like this (Which is smaller in the 6s+) is a no brainer.
A sheet of paper would be perfect.
Frankly it's pretty clear where it's going ... A phone that can be slipped into a pocket, as flexible and inconspicuous as a business card. A mobile screen when needed, but otherwise left in the pocket. The controls will be on an Watch, a lapel pin, a necklace pendant, or even a cuff link, as will the camera. Slip it into a bathing suit, gym clothes, business suit, etc, pair with a fashionable controller accessory (or accessories) and off you go.
Yes because I've been holding off upgrading my Motorola Razr until Apple makes a thinner iPhone at the expense of battery life. Until it is thin and small enough to slide into my wallet like a business card I'm patiently waiting on the sidelines.
Maybe im alone on this but I totally wouldnt mind a slightly thicker phone for more battery life. The phone is already razor thin. Making it any thinner is just eating away at battery life.
I have a 5s and it is the preface thickness. I want something I can hold on to and something that does not feel like it is going to break every time I stuff it in my pocket. Give me more battery life, an easily replaceable battery, water proof, and wireless charge. For once in recent history, lets get fashion out, and function in.
2010 - Samsung S: 9.9 mm
2011 - Samsung S II: 9.7 mm
2012 - Samsung S III: 8.6 mm
2013 - Samsung S4: 7.9 mm
2014 - Samsung S5: 8.1 mm
2015 - Samsung S6: 6.8 mm
2016 - Samsung S7: 7.9 mm
2010 - iPhone 4: 9.3 mm
2011 - iPhone 4s: 9.3 mm
2012 - iPhone 5: 7.6 mm
2013 - iPhone 5s: 7.6 mm
2014 - iPhone 6: 6.9 mm
2015 - iPhone 6s: 7.1 mm
With the exception of the Galaxy S7, Samsung phones have also been getting thinner over the years (there is the the tiny S4 -> S5 increase but the iPhone had something similar with the 6 -> 6s increase). But I guess when Apple does it is an obsession but when Samsung does it it is sound engineering.
There is a big and clear difference between 2015/2016 era samsung to 2011 era samsung.
Sure, but Apple was criticised for many years before the S7 release for making ever thinner devices? Why was Apple called obsessed but Samsung not?
I think you're forgetting something—the whole point of this article? The rumored larger capacity battery? All I said is the A9 is more efficient than the A8 because it had a smaller battery and had similar battery life. If they go back to a bigger battery, then naturally they should get more battery life. And each new A series chip usually has some level of efficiency improvements. If it's not any more efficient at all, and they wanted to make it much faster, then I'll admit they might need to eat that extra battery.
As for me, it doesn't affect me much. I'm usually around 30-40% left after most days, and in extreme cases I'm around 10-15%. I haven't run out of battery in years. It was nice only having to charge my old Plus every other day, but the 6s is good enough for me. I think the perfect balance to cover more people such as heavy travelers would be about 20% more. If people use hotspot then just carry a portable USB battery. I've got a great 10,000mah Anker one that is fairly compact, does faster iPad charging and cost $20. Only need it when traveling.
Because Apple made their phones thinner and made compromises on battery life in order to do so.
Samsun'g battery capacities have always been massive.
Samsung is not free of their own share of criticism. Their build quality prior to 2015 left much to be desired.
Massive battery capacity doesn't necessarily equal massive battery time. For once, Samsung Galaxy phones had always a larger screen, that alone requires a larger battery capacity just to keep the battery time equal. They also had faster clocked CPUs and more cores. Many tests have shown that the battery life in fact wasn't nearly as much longer if at all as the battery capacity would have suggested.
It's certain that you can't compare battery lives of phones using different operating systems by the mAh count alone as the power management by the OS plays a crucial part here. Apple has a massive edge compared to Android as far as power efficiency is concerned, but for whatever reason they've deciced to downplay that advantage by equipping their phones with rather lightweight batteries. The battery life competition would be over if Apple got over their obsession with thinness and equipped iPhones with similar capacity batteries as comparable Android phones. For whatever reasons Apple just seems to prefer to negate all battery life gains provided by new processors/chipsets by constantly making the phone thinner. If they actually went and increased the thickness to accomodate a larger battery, they'd hit it out of the park as far as battery life is concerned. But it seems like Jony wants to shave using his iPhone, so thinner iPhones is what we'll be getting.
I'm very pleased that you're pleased with the Samsung's fast and/or wireless charging, but let's take a step back for a moment so that we can see the wide shot of these woods, before we get too lost in them and distracted by what everyone else is doing, which is largely irrelevant:
Apple aren't pinned down to external timelines, they work on Apple Time, playing their music which is synchronised by their own internal conductor, reading from their own highly proven hymn sheet, at their own pace with their own, VERY confident, VERY intelligent and VERY successful vision of how to take a look at what everyone else is doing, laugh at most of it and discard it as the gimmick it is (and it is), and then take whatever VALUABLE ideas are left, work on them for as long as it takes to make them actually usable and valuable as additions to a product range that works best by only having additions that actually ADD VALUE - they don't throw in "features" just because every other copycat Asian Android phone vendor has jumped on the "same train" for a ride to goodness knows where in sameland.
The general public jump up and down with excitement when they see bullet points in "reviews" from often equally love-blind "reviewers", without generally understanding the technological immaturity of the "features" that said vendors have rushed into bundling into their latest range of products.
Let's assess what people wanted VS what came to pass, and how the Apple version is better:
~ "We want Blu-Ray in the next Mac": Blu-Ray was, at best, a stopgap late comer to a spinning optical medium that was dying out, so clearly Apple weren't interested in pleasing a minority. Streaming is the future, like it or not, that's how it is, and that's why your coasters weren't catered for.
~ "We want FireWire back - why have they removed it? Wah waaaah": Needs no answer.
~ "Why can't I do something as simple as sending a file over bluetooth from my iPhone?": Because AirDrop is why. Infinitely faster, more elegant and simple to operate than the tangled, slow kludge of the BlueTooth incompatibility mess that became engrained in people's minds as a result of myriad TERRIBLE implementations of a messy (non)-"standard" found fragmented and bodged in a thousand awful candy bar phones, therefore the public thought that the long-held WRONG way to do simple ad-hoc file transfer should carry through to Apple ALSO catering to this mess. Err, no, actually.
~ "We want AMOLED in the iPhone": AMOLED is a power saving technology which is needed MORE in Android due to its power-hogging, therefore, ANY port in a storm, eh?
OS Optimisation (used as an example to show why using Android engineers who work on these principles, may not be a wise thing to do)
~ "Why is iPhone ‘only’ dual core?”: If I get given a lightweight sports car (dual core CPU) and I then load it down by trying to tow a 60ft trailer full of potatoes (Java), guess what I need? A bigger engine and more wheels (Android hardware). Android vendor then throws cores and RAM at their GIANT problem, instead of addressing the problem - Android OS’ translated Java bodge of a runtime:
—> Android: “Tell me when you want a cookie, I’ll go away and grab the ingredients, weigh them, mix them and bake you one, and if you want more, I’ll just do that all over again. You might have to wait a bit, but we have a nice fast mixer and a very hot oven.”
—> iOS: “You want a cookie? Here you are - there’s loads - we baked as many as you need in advance, they’re in the tin.”
Now, tell me again why Apple should follow the errant the past of the lost sheep, just because the lost sheep is wandering down it, not knowing where he’ll end up?
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All that is great, it really is, but you honestly sound like you're on the Apple payroll or at least just reaaaallly taking Apple's marketing to heart. Fast charging is just like LTE connectivity a few years back. All of the flagships have it but Apple is late to the party. Unless Apple is working on a way to wireless broadcast a way to charge an iPhone, they are just still falling behind.
I love Apple, I always have and still do, but technology like Fast Charging isn't going away and you make it seem because Apple hasn't done it yet that somehow it isn't worthy of their attention. Fast charging is something that is more or less a standard feature in most phones.
I managed to expense a phone for work so I picked up an S7 Edge to try it out while hanging on to my 6 Plus. Sad to say but it's true. This is the year Apple cedes the crown, assuming you are a tech/gadget enthusiast who can tinker a bit and take advantage of everything Android offers. Apple will continue to make zillions selling phones to people like my parents. I say this not to troll but in hopes they will really get aggressive and delight us again.
Apple aren't "late to the party" - they have their own, far more intelligent, less pretentious party, and they don't invite other people to it any more than they'd turn up at this other party which you suppose they are late to. Because you're starting from the erroneous pre-supposition that Apple need to "catch up", any & ALL points under that supposition are moot, and fall on their face. Let the other muppets make a mockery of themselves - they do a superb job of it, whilst simultaneously providing Apple with FREE way of seeing what sticks around and is worthwhile, which they then take, ponder over and refine and reduce until it FAR surpasses alternate, clunky implementations from other vendors.
"Fast charging" is also a quick way to a FAST DEATH for current battery technology. I am a fully qualified electronics engineer, I can tell you that for convenience comes pay-off - early death - "live fast, die young" is entirely apt in this discussion, and for devices that are going to lose most of their value and end up in landfill whilst iPhones are still going on and on for years, retaining a lot of their resale value, I am sure it doesn't matter much, because barely anyone misses a dead, dated, plastic Android phone with a burnt-out battery from impatient users.
If fast charging/wireless charging are the huge deal for Android phones that you imply, then I feel sincerely relieved that I am a supporter and proponent of a platform which puts importance in far more important issues such as optimisation of the battery capacities currently viable for the iPhone, as opposed to the "fast charging" as a "feature" for phones which are so SO embarrassingly poorly optimised so as to need this "feature". I'd say Apple are working on better battery longevity, and are refusing to be distracted from that by seeing how fast they can make crappy batteries charge, which will make them even crappier, (battery physics.)
Apple is about THEIR EXPERIENCE for you, not about copy/pasting gimmicks from flawed platforms because the flawed platforms need them. Look at all the octa-core CPUs LagDroid has and all the huge amounts of RAM, and yet, STILL IT LAGS - I have an Android phone with 8 cores and 2GB RAM (current model called Smart Ultra 6) and it takes FIVE SECONDS to launch Chrome... LMAO!!!!, Google and Android vendors seem to be stuck in a loop of eternally MISSING the point - *experience* - not stupid "projects" like "Project Butter" and "Material Design" (lol!), blowing their own trumpet to show how they're back-tracking in a desperate attempt to fix the junk they didn't design properly. Wow.
Let's put this to a vote - don't take my word for it alone - I am sure the MR masses will vote with their thumbs, if they agree.
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Yes, but Samsung also markets their obsession for thin.
Really laughed when I saw their marketing about the camera being less protruding than on the s6.
Wow great engineering!
They forgot to mention that the s7 is about 1.2 mm thicker than the s6 though.
Great marketing spin!
Next time they will make a 10mm phone and announce that the camera is flush.