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New Images Depict Alleged 7.04 Watt-Hour Battery Designed for iPhone 7
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Holy hell, that case is ugly AFI'm here if you need me..
You'll have an A10, and it will be way better than any SoC Samsung is using (even the A9 is somewhat better in some fields).
You'll have a better camera.
I don't know about a better display....
I'm surely taking the iPhone 7.
Why be obsessed with fast chargin ? It ruins the battery...so your iPhone charges in 30 minutes with the iPad charger? mine doesnt
The iPhone is not slow at charging, especially if you use an iPad charger.
No, I'm correct.
It's not a beauty, for sure, but it's practical.
I have one, and I use it the few times when I'm going out for work knowing I won't be near an outlet for more than one day. It works flawlessly, it's way less intrusive than an external battery pack (that I used to bring with me) and it's fully and nicely integrated into iOS.
People get too hung up on the wanting more battery/not wanting more battery and keeping thin debate, which kind of misses the point...
Ergonomically the phones have gotten too thin to sit comfortably in the hand - the 3G was the best iPhone in that regard, the best shape. Since then they've progressively gotten less comfortable to use. Why not go a little thicker, a little nicer shape to actually use and consequently add a little larger battery?
Those saying efficiency is more important seem to forget the screen is what really saps the power, not the processor, and in that respect the competition using OLED screens are ahead of Apple. I just think Apple's priorities are a little skewed of late and "thinness" above all else is something no-one's really asking for or needing. I think Ive is a good designer but he's missing a boss with some vision...
Ergonomically the phones have gotten too thin to sit comfortably in the hand - the 3G was the best iPhone in that regard, the best shape. Since then they've progressively gotten less comfortable to use. Why not go a little thicker, a little nicer shape to actually use and consequently add a little larger battery?
Those saying efficiency is more important seem to forget the screen is what really saps the power, not the processor, and in that respect the competition using OLED screens are ahead of Apple. I just think Apple's priorities are a little skewed of late and "thinness" above all else is something no-one's really asking for or needing. I think Ive is a good designer but he's missing a boss with some vision...
Here's my number one request for the iPhone 7. BIGGER BATTERY!!!!! I don't want to have to have play dates with my wall outlet all day.
If you've actually held the s7 you'll know it's far better built than the iPhone 6
The camera is way better
It is much faster
It has a bigger battery
It is a better phone than the 6s.
That's okay.
Er….. No. Unless you’ve been a fly on the wall in the boardroom and seen the roadmap for Samsung phones?
If the answer is still No. Pipe down.
What you should have said was;
“By making the each generation product less comfortable to use, more expensive, less upgradeable they challenge their customers"
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Noticed the same change in myself.
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Now when Apple do get around to implementing fast charging the story will be - Apple have found a new algorithm that retains battery health whilst charging quickly.
I've read all these iPad charger comments too and I've been using an iPad 2 charger on my iPhone 6 for a while - from empty it takes at least 2.5hrs to charge to 100%! That's still pretty damn poor! It's quick to charge to 50% etc but I don't like taking the phone off charge until it's topped up.
The part about the A10 is just ridiculous. Yiou want better features and specs I get that but to say you want an A10 is just a stupid statement. You know what, I want an A12. Don’t know why as I have no idea what it brings to the table.
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Strangely enough, neither do I. Don't know why either.
It's the charger that limits iPhone charge speed, not the phone. I routinely charge my iPhone 6 with an old 12W iPad charger, and it charges much faster than with the standard iPhone charger.
I haven't timed it but it wouldn't be far off 0-50% in 30 minutes, which is what the Note 5 quotes for fast charging.
No it's not. It's not better built. Not even in a parallel dimension.
Yes the camera is better, but that doesn't mean the 6S's isn't a very good camera (still better in some situations).
Much faster ? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Not even in your fantasy. The iPhone is still better in many test and the s7 start throttling like hell after a few minutes while the iPhone doesn't.
It has a bigger battery because it need it to keep the same battery life level.
And over all of this, it still runs android (worsened by Touchwiz) and not iOS...
So NO, it's not a better phone.
I've been pretty vocal on the subject, but I'll day it again. Of all I gain by losing the headphones jack is a thinner phone, absolutely count me out.
Multiple times I've mentioned my fear that this is change for the sake of change (and thinness), and this article doesn't have me feeling any better. I really hope I'm dead wrong.
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One doesn't have to use quick charge in all cases. There are maybe a dozen instances a year where I'd benefit from quick charge. It's one of those situations where you don't appreciate what you have until it's gone lol. I keep my phones 1-2 years. Battery won't be trashed in that amount of time. At least it hasn't on my android work phone so I'm sure apple could manage something similar if they wanted. The 12v charger does improve charge times on iPhone for sure, but it's still no quick charge.
Multiple times I've mentioned my fear that this is change for the sake of change (and thinness), and this article doesn't have me feeling any better. I really hope I'm dead wrong.
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One doesn't have to use quick charge in all cases. There are maybe a dozen instances a year where I'd benefit from quick charge. It's one of those situations where you don't appreciate what you have until it's gone lol. I keep my phones 1-2 years. Battery won't be trashed in that amount of time. At least it hasn't on my android work phone so I'm sure apple could manage something similar if they wanted. The 12v charger does improve charge times on iPhone for sure, but it's still no quick charge.
Comments So typical of an android customer...
It's about spec list, right ? You want 16 cores, 3 Ghz and 32 Gb of RAM and you are drooling over your pointless curved display. On the other side the Apple user know that the A10 will be faster and efficient, not needing to throttle to avoid burning ...
So yes, I want an A10 too
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True, but I won't loose my sleep over the lacking of quick charge.
I'd much prefer to have wireless charging option.
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dare to dream! I want both!
But if I had to choose I'd pick wireless. I'd benefit far more from that.
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Two guesses I have would be the obvious keyboard accessory as well as a smart cover (one that may allow some amount of use whole cover is on maybe?)
that was my pointdare to dream! I want both!
But if I had to choose I'd pick wireless. I'd benefit far more from that.
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Two guesses I have would be the obvious keyboard accessory as well as a smart cover (one that may allow some amount of use whole cover is on maybe?)
I also disagree with most people who want a thicker iPhone with better battery life. Apple's quest for thinner devices is not vain.
Most of us live in developed countries, where we can afford to come home everyday and charge our phones. We also have free access to power outlets pretty much wherever we go. Need to charge it midday because you forgot to charge it overnight? What a hard life. We just don't need a bigger battery, unless we go hiking for a week in which case we'd certainly be ok with it, or.. get a beautiful Smart Battery Case. People who'd really need an improved battery life are people who can't afford an iPhone in the first place, like some islanders, or any remote areas without electricity.
Apple's thinking way ahead of the iPhone 7, they know exactly the research that's happening in terms of nanotechnology. As components get smaller and require less power, it makes sense to have thinner devices, until a breakthrough happens. And it'll happen:
http://phys.org/news/2016-03-silicon-devices-looms-big-discovery.html
"Imagine having a phone that you don't have to recharge but once a month"
Most of us live in developed countries, where we can afford to come home everyday and charge our phones. We also have free access to power outlets pretty much wherever we go. Need to charge it midday because you forgot to charge it overnight? What a hard life. We just don't need a bigger battery, unless we go hiking for a week in which case we'd certainly be ok with it, or.. get a beautiful Smart Battery Case. People who'd really need an improved battery life are people who can't afford an iPhone in the first place, like some islanders, or any remote areas without electricity.
Apple's thinking way ahead of the iPhone 7, they know exactly the research that's happening in terms of nanotechnology. As components get smaller and require less power, it makes sense to have thinner devices, until a breakthrough happens. And it'll happen:
http://phys.org/news/2016-03-silicon-devices-looms-big-discovery.html
"Imagine having a phone that you don't have to recharge but once a month"
they also listen to their sales data. Every generation they make their devices thinner, they sell even more than the last generation. So they figure "correlation IS causation" , and continue to thin the devices into infinite.
Why is thinner always better? How thin do you want it? Credit card? Sheet of paper? The iPhone 6 is already a bit awkward to hold compared to better shaped phones, thinner will just make it worse. Then we have the bending dramas, thinner is only going to make that more likely too.
It's not a case of what CAN be done but WHY it's done. That's the difference between a Jony Ive who does things seemingly for the sake of it or some personal design challenge - or a Steve Jobs who wanted to do things a certain way because they were better.
So you're suggesting that everyone complaining about the battery life is not living in a developed country? You must've been the first in line when arrogance was delivered. It's nice that the current battery life is sufficient for you, but with my use I can't get the non-plus models last through the day without a top-up charge or two. I'm one of those who would prefer a thicker phone, so even though I have plenty of outlets around me throughout the day, I don't want to be plugging my phone into them all the time. Charging in the night should be sufficient, but the unnecessarily small battery won't make it unless you pay the premium for a plus model. If all we get for losing the 3.5mm jack is a thinner phone, count me out.
Maybe the technology god is serendipitously telling you something. Perhaps lay down the phone more often and go enjoy life away from screen. I heard the real world is quite beautiful.
Ahh, so that's why we buy iPhones, so they can run out of battery and allow us more time to see the world!
That could come right out of a Jony Ive monologue! Right - I tested the iPhone 6's "fast charging" with an iPad 2 charger:
Phone dies at 8%, not very handy, since iOS 9 it's died randomly anywhere from 0-23%, I guess this is a new "feature" to make you think you have more battery than you do, it's never happened on my previous iPhone 3G/4/5 or 6 until iOS 9.
Put on charge, comes to life after a minute or two at 7% so test is already skewed in any case by inaccurate % indicator.
40 minutes charge gets me to 50% (indicated), 1 hour charge to 70%, 2hr10m to 100% indicated. So, to full charge not very fast really, but fairly quick to 50%. Presuming that's 50% and not really 40% or something. Certainly not up there with the main competition in any case. I do think Apple are starting to slip behind in most areas compared to Samsung and the iPhone 7 might be the point I "switch sides" unless it wows somehow.
So people who need better battery life are "islanders" or people who live in areas where there's probably not a cell signal anyways?
Everyone else should be happy to be tethered to the wall.
You're hilarious.
It can certainly get as thin as what the camera needs to fit, around 4.x mm, without making the device vulnerable to bending or breaking. Some materials allow for even thinner while being very, very hard to bend. Steve Jobs introduced the Macbook Air, they shared the same vision for thinner, smaller, lighter devices. It's unfair to oppose them now that Jobs' gone.
As for why it's done, we can argue forever. Why making a Macbook Air, and now an ultra-thin Macbook? The Macbook Pro was portable enough, some would say. And why do painters make paintings? It's useless, some would say. What's the point of life?
You didn't read my post correctly, I am suggesting that most, if not all the people complaining about battery life are living in developed countries, where you have super easy access to power outlets. In fact, I don't live in a developed country and I don't complain about it, I'm all in for thinner devices. Here, outlets are rare, and shared by lots of people.
"be tethered to the wall" is highly exaggerated, you're definitely not.
I'm not saying that people who live in remote areas need better battery life, as I said most of them can't afford an iPhone in the first place. In fact most of them don't care at all about iPhones and Apple and the internet. That's also why I don't complain. And yes, cellular coverage is much better than access to electricity in most developing or poor countries.