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According to leaks, Apple's upcoming iPhone 12 models could ship with a new Lightning to USB-C cable that includes a braided fabric design, and today serial leaker L0vetodream has shared more images of the purported new design, alongside a similar cable in black.

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The photos depict a USB-C to Lightning cable that has a braided design rather than the standard non-fabric design of the current cables. Apple has never released a cable with a braided design for its iPhones or iPads, but it does offer a braided Thunderbolt Pro cable, a black braided Lightning cable that ships with the Mac Pro, and a braided power cable for the HomePod.

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Braided cable designs have the potential to be more durable than standard rubber-coated cables, but typically extra reinforcement is included at the end points where the cable heads are positioned, which isn't seen here on the white cable. The cables look similar to existing Apple-designed Lightning to USB-C cables with the exception of the new gray and white braided look on the white.

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Apple in 2019 included a USB-C to Lightning cable with the higher-end Pro iPhone models to go along with a USB-C power adapter, while the more affordable iPhone 11 came with a standard USB-A to Lightning cable. That's led to speculation that the braided cables could be exclusive to the higher end iPhone 12 models.

Apple is expected to release four iPhones this fall, including one 5.4-inch model, two 6.1-inch models, and one 6.7-inch model. Rumors suggest the 6.7-inch iPhone and one 6.1-inch model will be higher-end devices with triple-lens cameras, while the 5.4 and 6.1-inch models will be lower-end iPhones with dual-lens cameras and a more affordable price tag.

Apple's new braided USB-C to Lightning cable may be the only accessory that ships with its 2020 iPhones. Multiple rumors have suggested the ‌iPhone 12‌ models will not come with a power adapter or EarPods in the box, allowing Apple to save money and cut down on packaging.

Instead, Apple may sell a new 20W power adapter on a standalone basis. This would allow customers to purchase a power adapter separately from Apple or from a third-party manufacturer, and could bring Apple in line with EU proposals for a common charging standard.

Update: In a followup tweet, L0vetodream claims that the black braided Lightning cable shown is "from the iMac Pro," suggesting it's an updated version of the black Lightning to USB-A cable that comes with existing iMac Pro models. Currently only the Mac Pro comes with a black Lightning to USB-C cable, so it's possible L0vetodream simply mistyped his tweet and that is actually what's pictured.

Article Link: New Images of Rumored 'iPhone 12' Braided Lightning to USB-C Cable Emerge [Update: Black Cable Likely From Mac Pro or Future iMac Pro]
 
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Presuming that the iMac Pro is another Intel machine with the same chassis, it seems odd that they would change something as trivial as the Lightning cable. If this leak turns out to be true, perhaps the update is more substantial?
 

D.T.

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ok the colour, but why not usbc, why? why?

Well, it is ... on one end :D

Assuming your mean on the device itself, I'm leaning towards not seeing a USB-C port on iPhones, that Apple will go from Lightning to wireless (with possibly some sort of mag-like connection when you need to use the device while charging).
 

Stuey3D

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Why USB-C to lightning though? If they are getting rid of power adapters in the box because everybody already supposedly has one then surely it needs to be a USB-A on the other end as I imagine very few people already have a USB-C power adapter or even a laptop with USB-C, yet most will have access to USB-A power adapters.

This stinks of a nickel and dime move, dropping the power brick “to prevent e-waste and be environmentally friendly” yet causing a crap ton more e-waste when people are forced to ditch their current USB-A adapters. Apple is clearly hoping that they will either sell you a USB-C power adapter or a USB-A to lightning Cable at the same time as buying the phone meaning more ££ for Apple.
 

jackychi

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Ah yes comes with the same "timeless design"(the plastic thingy that breaks in 2 years). My 2 and 1/2 year old cable from my iPad is held together by tape and my wife's work iPhone cable was replaced last month...
I never had a cable where the plastic broke like that and I have some 10 year old Micro-USB cables which I still use to this day.
 

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Why USB-C to lightning though? If they are getting rid of power adapters in the box because everybody already supposedly has one then surely it needs to be a USB-A on the other end as I imagine very few people already have a USB-C power adapter or even a laptop with USB-C, yet most will have access to USB-A power adapters.

This stinks of a nickel and dime move, dropping the power brick “to prevent e-waste and be environmentally friendly” yet causing a crap ton more e-waste when people are forced to ditch their current USB-A adapters. Apple is clearly hoping that they will either sell you a USB-C power adapter or a USB-A to lightning Cable at the same time as buying the phone meaning more ££ for Apple.

They‘re a sales company, and the laptops only have Type C connectors, so it does make sense. So they will want more money, which means taking out accessories and making you buy another different type of power brick.
 
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I was about to buy a couple 18W adapters with usb-c to lightning cables. Now I'll wait till these braided cables come out and to see if the 18W adapters increase to 20W.
 

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Ah yes comes with the same "timeless design"(the plastic thingy that breaks in 2 years). My 2 and 1/2 year old cable from my iPad is held together by tape and my wife's work iPhone cable was replaced last month...
I never had a cable where the plastic broke like that and I have some 10 year old Micro-USB cables which I still use to this day.

I can never figure out what people do to these cables to break them. I have had 1, maybe 2 at most, break since 2007.
 

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They‘re a sales company, and the laptops only have Type C connectors, so it does make sense. So they will want more money, which means taking out accessories and making you buy another different type of power brick.
Which highlights my point, its just a greed move. They will spin it as environmentally friendly when on the stage “we removed the power brick as most people already have one, this will save x tonnes of e-waste” everybody will clap and woot and then after the product is released people will have to get rid of their current adapters creating x tonnes more e-waste.

This is just a massive anti consumer move and a massive middle finger to the customer. I actually didn’t mind the rumoured removal of the power adapter as I already have plenty, but changing the cable connector on the adapter end on the same product cycle is just a kick in the teeth.

Imagine going to buy your iPhone and the salesman asks if you need an adapter, most people (who might not be technically savvy to know the differences between USB-A and C) will probably say nope I already have one only to get home and realise they cant charge their phone, especially those who have come to iPhones from Android so might not have a stack of lightning cables.

I just hope people don’t buy the overpriced Apple stuff and goes for the cheaper and better built stuff from companies like Anker.

The only thing that Apple may do which would make this a non issue for most would be to include a USB-A male to USB-C female dongle that you can attach to your new cable to make it compatible with your existing chargers, but I suspect this is highly unlikely.
 

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Nice. The braided 2019 Mac Pro power cable is one of the nicest cables Ive ever laid hands on. This looks to be similar. Totally understand that most people here don't appreciate having to pay extra for a nice cable though.
 
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Marzel

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Which highlights my point, its just a greed move. They will spin it as environmentally friendly when on the stage “we removed the power brick as most people already have one, this will save x tonnes of e-waste” everybody will clap and woot and then after the product is released people will have to get rid of their current adapters creating x tonnes more e-waste.

This is just a massive anti consumer move and a massive middle finger to the customer. I actually didn’t mind the rumoured removal of the power adapter as I already have plenty, but changing the cable connector on the adapter end on the same product cycle is just a kick in the teeth.

Imagine going to buy your iPhone and the salesman asks if you need an adapter, most people (who might not be technically savvy to know the differences between USB-A and C) will probably say nope I already have one only to get home and realise they cant charge their phone, especially those who have come to iPhones from Android so might not have a stack of lightning cables.

I just hope people don’t buy the overpriced Apple stuff and goes for the cheaper and better built stuff from companies like Anker.

The only thing that Apple may do which would make this a non issue for most would be to include a USB-A male to USB-C female dongle that you can attach to your new cable to make it compatible with your existing chargers, but I suspect this is highly unlikely.
Yes, it will definitely be annoying for the majority of buyers who don't happen to have an iPad Pro or a MacBook (and even if they do, they'll almost definitely not have multiple chargers lying around).
 

Stuey3D

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Yes, it will definitely be annoying for the majority of buyers who don't happen to have an iPad Pro or a MacBook (an even if they do they'll almost definitely not have multiple chargers lying around).
Oh for sure its only recently that stuff has started to come with USB-C chargers anyway compare that to the decades that USB-A chargers have been around and you can see why this becomes an issue. You can almost guarantee that most households will have at least a handful of USB-A chargers of some kind, however compare that to the households who have USB-C chargers and I bet that number is very small by comparison.

In my house I have about 10 USB-A adapters as well as multiple games consoles/laptops/set top boxes/WiFi Routers/TV’s that all have a USB-A port I can charge from, however I only have 2 USB-C chargers and that is only because the wife recently got a MacBook Air and I got an iPad Pro, if we hadn’t then total USB-C ports in this house would be 0.

So the removal of the power adapter made sense from a logistics and e-waste point of view, but changing the end of the included cable makes no sense at all.
 

Stuey3D

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Change has to start somewhere.
Yeah remove the adapter for sure, but keep a USB-A cable in the box or put an adapter so that the USB-C cable can be used with the multitude of USB-A ports most households have access to. Then when more people have access to USB-C ports like they do with USB-A ports then change the connector. They did this when they removed the headphone port they gave a little dongle so that people could still use their existing headphones, and when wireless headphones became more mainstream and cheaper to buy they ditched the dongle. They may do that again by including a USB-A Male - USB-C female in the box so you can stick that on the new cable to work with older chargers but I doubt it.

Right now removing the adapter and changing the default charger connector stinks of greed And an attempt to get you to buy overpriced Apple cables and chargers when you have just dropped a huge amount on the phone.
 
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