New Images Offer Even Closer Look at New 14-Inch MacBook Pro

[Lakersfan74]

If its used on the lap, speakers facing down would lose effectiveness.

Good point

 

[ZacKaffeine]

14 inches is nice. But I wanna know what 16 inches feels like. Hope it's not too thick.

 

[AdonisSMU]

i love magsafe, i can 140W charge my mac while im using the rest of the ports

I could do that already.

 

[magbarn]

Exactly. I'm not sure what people are griping about, 3.5 pounds, with the amount of computational power this thing can put out, is kind of insane. If its as cool as the M1's, that is even more asoutniding. All I ever hear from my Intel units is fans blazing away.

Those whiners are the reason we got the feckless Touch Bar generation with buttercrap keyboards. These machines are designed for pros who want power in A light package.

 

[PhoneI]

Just look at the hideous keyboard and you won't worry about the notch anymore. 😂

I think the keyboard looks great.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Exactly. I'm not sure what people are griping about, 3.5 pounds, with the amount of computational power this thing can put out, is kind of insane. If its as cool as the M1's, that is even more asoutniding. All I ever hear from my Intel units is fans blazing away.

Fan fans fans across the board.

 

[caunn]

Anyone any idea why the menubar continues even under the notch? Why not just have it the exact same height?
Maybe it has to do with the rest of the screen area being exactly 16:10? But then, WHY didn't they make the screen those 3 or 4 pixels less high, to have the menubar and notch be the exact same height... Or is it aesthetics? Would it look weird if they were the same height? Ok. Many questions nobody really knows the answers to. Any guesses though?

Maybe the notch was accentuated / it just looked weird when it physically connected to app windows versus always being distinctly separated from app windows.

 

[Tagbert]

It’s so ugly. Looks like the original MacBook/MacBook Pro. Bring Jony back!

So you’re saying that Apple’s original laptops were ugly? Wow!

 

[Tagbert]

Not exactly. If the menu is around the notch it still means that smaller notch would do a better job. So back to my first post, this is not THE BEST technical solution what could Apple find.

Moreover, the notch also means some problems for software. Eg. Photoshop in my languare and resolution has more and longer menu items that go to the center of the screen. So under the notch.

Why would you expect the menus to be “under the notch”? Are you assuming that Apple just threw this together and didn’t think about it?

The OS renders the menus and knows if the notch is there. If there are a lot of menus, it will skip that space and render the rest of the menu on the right side.

 

[Demz]

The notch without FaceID is like those blank buttons in your car if you don’t pay for the premium features, ugly and pointless.

 

[danny1305]

I hate MagSafe.

You can charge over USB C just like before….you don’t even have to use MagSafe at all. Proof that you are complaining just to complain.

 

[Tagbert]

Why does the menu bar go below notch?

There is a design problem called the tangent effect. If you have a straight line intersecting a curve it causes some weird distortions that look wrong to our visual cortex. By offsetting the bottom of the menu by a few pixels, they can avoid that tangent effect.

 

[Tagbert]

Looks great, but I don't really like the all black keyboard, looks cheap to me...

I find the extra lines produced by the light background of the current keyboard to be distracting. This new design focuses on the glyphs on the keys and less on the lines of the background.

 

[ThatsNiceGuy]

I’m still not sure on the notch. When my 14” comes I’m probably gonna complain about it for the first week, then forget about it just like I did with the iPhone notch

 

[dogslobber]

if you are not a developer or software engineer you cant understand this

Why is tha?

 

[Marzel]

I honestly don’t understand people complaining about the thickness on these laptops. MacBook Pros are supposed to be the most powerful laptops on Apple’s lineup and aim for people who primarily care about performance. The last two Pro designs had either throttling or battery life issues (or both). After many years, Apple is offering a very powerful laptop with a presumably great battery life while keeping the size more than manageable. Not many 16” laptops are thinner than these.

 

[Tagbert]

Because they've increased the height of the menu bar, which still can't contain more than a single row of text/icons, to ensure it's deeper than the notch. In other words, you lose height across the entire monitor in Apple's attempt to "hide" the notch.

That is new screen space provided by expanding the screen into the bezel area and required the notch because there is a largish component there with the camera, truetone sensor and ambient light sensor. They were able to move the menu and provide more space for the content windows.

the net result is that you have more space for your apps and content now, not less.

 

[Marcus PM]

Personally, I’m thrilled to be finally moving on up from my fantastic 15-inch, Mid 2012 MacBook Pro, to the new smaller, faster, and 10% lighter MBP 16”. It will practically slide around and float the previous 15” carrying case.

MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)
Height: 0.95 inch (2.41 cm)
Width: 14.35 inches (36.4 cm)
Depth: 9.82 inches (24.9 cm)
Weight: 5.6 pounds (2.56 kg)

MacBook Pro 16-inch 2021
Height: 0.66 inch (1.68 cm)
Width: 14.01 inches (35.57 cm)
Depth: 9.77 inches (24.81 cm)
Weight (M1 Pro): 4.7 pounds (2.1 kg)
Weight (M1 Max): 4.8 pounds (2.2 kg)

 

[votdfak]

My current machine is the M1 13" with 16/2TB and its hands down the best laptop I've ever had. I had the 2017 Intel 13" MBP before and the difference with the M1 is night and day. Laptop never really gets warm, fan is off unless I am absolutely thrashing the machine (usually doing heavy duty CFD stuff). Battery is also much improved and it genuinely lasts the day for me.

I said earlier, it would be great if Apple kept this form factor alive and put a M1 Pro or even M1 Max in it, but I think that's probably asking too much!

It will be huuuuuge upgrade from my Late 2013... Picking it tomorrow... Notch can wait.

 

[ThatsNiceGuy]

Also about the thickness and all. If you’re actually a pro, you won’t care. These aren’t for flexing at starbucks or for typing up docouments. Get an Air/13” Pro for that. These look to be for actual serious work

 

[rmoliv]

So you’re saying that Apple’s original laptops were ugly? Wow!

They were not back in the day, for 2021 standards yes, they look outdated and ugly as compared to the latest models.

 

[mikethemartian]

HDMI the new VGA

As late as 2015 I had to give a presentation in a conference room at a university and the only connection available was VGA.

 

[magbarn]

Personally, I’m thrilled to be finally moving on up from my fantastic 15-inch, Mid 2012 MacBook Pro, to the new smaller, faster, and 10% lighter MBP 16”. It will practically slide around and float the previous 15” carrying case.

MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)
Height: 0.66 inch (1.68 cm)
Width: 14.01 inches (35.57 cm)
Depth: 9.77 inches (24.81 cm)
Weight (M1 Pro): 4.7 pounds (2.1 kg)
Weight (M1 Max): 4.8 pounds (2.2 kg)

MacBook Pro 16-inch 2021
Height: 0.95 inch (2.41 cm)
Width: 14.35 inches (36.4 cm)
Depth: 9.82 inches (24.9 cm)
Weight: 5.6 pounds (2.56 kg)

Did you swap the dimensions?

 

[Tagbert]

No that's just bad sw design, the bottom edge of the menu bar should be flush with the bottom edge of the notch.

No, design is often about subtle things and about working with human visual systems. Aligning the bottom of the menu with the notch would tend to make the notch look bigger. Kind of like wearing horizontal striped clothes. Also there is a design problem called the tangent effect where a line intersecting a curve can cause strange visual distortions. It can be better to offset the line by a few pixels to avoid that problem.

Believe it or not, if you step back and look at how the OS works with the notch and how the design works with the notch, Apple has thought about this and has tried to address some of the problems. The notch is a compromise to gain more screen space why improving the camera. Just like in the phone, Apple would prefer the notch not be there but until they can work out smaller components or under screen cameras, the notch is a reasonable solution that brings some benefits.

It will help when these things are finally shipping and are in stores and we can try them out for ourselves. Based on the bits we have seen, I think once you can play around with this you will see that it is more coherent and well thought out that you get from blurry amatuer videos and a few closeup marketing renders.

 

[ColdShadow]

Oh no they removed the MacBook Pro branding from bezel again?
why???