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“Proper” Space Grey, what does that even mean. Apple gets to decide the design. Too many people here who want others to think they bought the pro grade laptop, and that pastel color will give you away. That’s really what this is all about.
What? More choices are great, I just hope they don’t eliminate the space gray/black option. My laptop rarely leaves my home, I don’t care what others think.
 
I just compared specs of the 16” MBP with specs on my 2015 15” retina MBP. You people calling the 16” chunky must have never owned the 2015 model because the 16” still isn’t as thick as the 2015. WTF?!? People, you all need to recalibrate. This thing isn’t thick or chunky. Besides, I’ve listened for 5 years to people denigrating Apple and Jonny Ive form over function BS and now you’ve got what you wanted and have the audacity to complain about it? GTFO. More Prosers.
It may not measure thicker but it definitely looks thicker since they are no longer tapering the top and bottom of the enclosure resulting in a dated chunky looking design.
 
Please... someone make the menu bar black. I'm dying to see what it looks like.

Isn't everyone going crazy for dark mode anyway?

:p
 
Ok I'll say it. The design is important.

Sorry, I know that technically are probably terrific but the 14 is juts wrong, in every sense. The big menu bar, the notch, the thickness, the weight, everything.
It's just ugly, the old 13 design seems a futurist computer.

I know that it's superficial talking about design over functions but honestly we are speaking about apple and I except at least a minimum effort on the eye side. This is just a raw machine for work that like I said is probably fantastic but I simply don't think was necessary to do it so ugly.
 
What laptop from the 80s looked this good?
Some of the Toshiba and IBM ones looked better in some ways although slightly thicker still. but like I said I'm guessing these pictures might be misleading and they look better in real life.
 
I just compared specs of the 16” MBP with specs on my 2015 15” retina MBP. You people calling the 16” chunky must have never owned the 2015 model because the 16” still isn’t as thick as the 2015. WTF?!? People, you all need to recalibrate. This thing isn’t thick or chunky. Besides, I’ve listened for 5 years to people denigrating Apple and Jonny Ive form over function BS and now you’ve got what you wanted and have the audacity to complain about it? GTFO. More Prosers.
You do realize they could be from two groups of ppl right?
 
The curves on this remind me strongly of the 12" PowerBook.

I'm not certain if that's good or not, as the 12" PowerBook was my favorite, and now I'm tempted to buy the new 14" just "because".

I just looked it up, the G4 PowerBook is 1.18 x 10.9 x 8.6 Avg. Weight: 4.6 lbs (2.1 kg)
The 14" Macbook Pro is

Height 0.61 inch (1.55 cm)
Width: 12.31 inches (31.26 cm)
Depth: 8.71 inches (22.12 cm)
Weight: 3.5 pounds (1.6 kg)

So, aside from being 2 inches wider and a bit thinner and lighter, it's about the same physical dimensions as the good old 12" PowerBook.
 
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Yeah, that notch is...not great. Seeing a more a realistic view of it makes me realize how much I don't like it and just how noticeable it is. So now the iMacs are going to have thinner menu bars than the MBPs? That's just weird. macOS usually doesn't have different designs on different Macs (just different resolutions).

Makes the iMac design seem much cleaner by comparison. Just looking at the thin, uninterrupted menu bar on the M1 iMac makes this look awful by comparison. Not a huge deal, but it's disappointing.
 
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Horrible design. The all-black keyboard looks worse than the previous iterations. The notch is a disaster. The only good thing they did was remove the Touch Bar - which in itself was a huge misstep when introduced. At least they acknowledged that and got rid of it.
Why was the Touch Bar so bad? Did you not know how to use it? Apparently you didn’t
 
I don't know whether the departure of Ive has led to some infighting between the design teams, but this seems to be a chimeric design. There are a bunch of changes I like that seem to fit well - mostly the return of classic MBP features, but then there's the integration of the iPhone webcam notch that really makes little design sense. In the iPhone it could fit in with the menubar space, but here we're looking at doubling the size of the menubar and making it into an obese extension of the bezel. Seems like design by committee - if Steve had been shown this, maybe there would have been another dent in the wall.
 
Yeh it looks too thick to me. It should’ve just been the exact height of the notch (you can see the bar going under the notch here).
I’m sure that there are a few pixels between the bottom of the menu bar and the notch. If they were the exact same height you would get some visual discontinuities due to the tangent affect. This is a little visual trick that designers have to employ to get things to work with how our visual systems work. Character spacing in fonts has similar issues that require these kinds of adjustments.
 
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