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Wouldn't this kill battery life? Or are there third-party apps/Android apps that run all the time with little effect on battery life?

Or could it perhaps be done with a dedicated coprocessor? Like the M7/M8 but instead of motion, it's always listening and working out whether you're saying "Hey Siri" or not?

My Samsung galaxy note 3 has this feature. Prettty sure my samsung galaxy note 2 could too. You can have it always listening for the phrase "hi galaxy" to use s-voice or OK google commands. The battery life used by this is very little.
 
About time apple stops the nonsense of needing a password to download free apps.
 
No password for free apps? Excellent. All of my iPhone using friends will also be using grindr by the end of today... :D :p
 
Nice that they added the no password for free apps, that was annoying alot of people.
 
I really like the no password to download free apps. Glad its finally coming.
I just hope this makes it into the Mac App Store too, and soon. I just installed 6 updates to free apps, and got asked for my password six times; I can understand asking for my password as a precaution, but if I'm confident of my user-account's security then I really shouldn't have to be asked at all, even for paid apps, if I don't want to be.
 
Siri is so incapable. Such useless system. It never gets what you are saying. When I am driving I always end up stopping on the side of the road and typing stuff. To look for addresses is useless.

Take me to..... 7.... 4.... 2.... Evergreen... terrace... springville....

works perfect for me.
 
I just hope this makes it into the Mac App Store too, and soon. I just installed 6 updates to free apps, and got asked for my password six times; I can understand asking for my password as a precaution, but if I'm confident of my user-account's security then I really shouldn't have to be asked at all, even for paid apps, if I don't want to be.

Under normal circumstances, it shouldn't even ask you once for your password when updating apps (free or not). Seems like something else might be in play there.
 
I wish they would change the lock settings. When you set up to enter a passcode, you can choose immediately all the way up to 1 hour for when it will ask for your passcode.

But when you're using Touch ID, you only have "immediately" available. This is the number one reason why I won't use Touch ID to unlock my phone cause im tired of having to use my fingerprint every time. I have my passcode lock set to 1 hour.

I'm confused. Granted my ipad doesn't have touchid, but from what I understand how it works all you do is press the home button for a microsecond longer than you normally would.

What exactly makes you tired when you press the home button anyway?
 
Under normal circumstances, it shouldn't even ask you once for your password when updating apps (free or not). Seems like something else might be in play there.

When you have restrictions set, it asks for the password to update apps. My 9 year old uses my iPad Mini, and when apps need to be updated, the app store requests the password for every single app.
 
When you have restrictions set, it asks for the password to update apps. My 9 year old uses my iPad Mini, and when apps need to be updated, the app store requests the password for every single app.

Well, in that case that's an explicit setting that you enable that had that effect.
 
Well, in that case that's an explicit setting that you enable that had that effect.

No, it's not. I've been through every setting for restrictions and the app store and there's nothing there related to updating apps. The only restriction settings remotely related to this are for installing apps, deleting apps and in-app purchases. I have restrictions for deleting apps disabled, but installing apps and in-app purchases enabled. Disabling the option to install apps prevents you from installing any apps at all (and removes the app store icon from the device). So, apparently, requiring a password on updating apps is something that Apple has implicitly implemented.
 
Verbal Passcode

One thing I'd like to see is Siri being able to accept a verbal password.

When I'm in my car and the phone happens to be locked (after 5 mins per my settings), I cannot get Siri to read my incoming texts to me. It asks me to unlock my phone and I cannot accomplish that while staying hands-free. I wish it could detect that I am moving in my car (easily accomplished) and ask for a verbal passcode instead.
 
No, it's not. I've been through every setting for restrictions and the app store and there's nothing there related to updating apps. The only restriction settings remotely related to this are for installing apps, deleting apps and in-app purchases. I have restrictions for deleting apps disabled, but installing apps and in-app purchases enabled. Disabling the option to install apps prevents you from installing any apps at all (and removes the app store icon from the device). So, apparently, requiring a password on updating apps is something that Apple has implicitly implemented.

So if you disable the restrictions you have enabled do you still get promoted for password when updating apps?
 
Yeah, totally, like that iMessage service that Android has had for such a long time before Apple (or even since). ;)

Right, because iMessage is so different from the billion other instant message services.... Oh, I forgot, iMessage works on Apple devices only, screwing up chats to other platforms.

In that way, yeah, it's nothing like Google Hangouts, which is available for all platforms, and it combines screen-sharing and FaceTime-like features. :rolleyes:
 
She still does... She literally does both of those things.

I had the original Siri app before the servers got shut down. Siri does WAAAY more now than she ever did as a standalone app.

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According to the Touch ID security white pages, Touch ID is encrypted and the encryption keys are reset every time you restart your device. Inputting your security code or your Apple ID decrypts the secure enclave so that you can use Touch ID. This stops someone from being able to hack the secure enclave and get get the chip to false-fire a Touch ID approval.

That's why, if you are ever in the pickle of needing to not allow law enforcement to have access to your device, to restart it.

They can force you to use your fingerprint to unlock it, but they arent allowed to force you to give them your unlock passcode.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/31/apple-touch-id-ruling_n_6083920.html
 
Right, because iMessage is so different from the billion other instant message services.... Oh, I forgot, iMessage works on Apple devices only, screwing up chats to other platforms.

In that way, yeah, it's nothing like Google Hangouts, which is available for all platforms, and it combines screen-sharing and FaceTime-like features. :rolleyes:

And seamlessly integrates with regular carrier text/media messaging...totally the same.

Clearly it's all haut iOS catching up with Android. :rolleyes:
 
And seamlessly integrates with regular carrier text/media messaging...totally the same.

Clearly it's all haut iOS catching up with Android. :rolleyes:

I use both and the 6+ is my main phone, so I hope I can be objective. I do not like iMessage, because it does not play nice with any other platforms (mainly for Group conversations and some MMS glitches).

Google Hangouts is cross-platform, it integrates really well with Google Voice (which I have used for years to replace my visual voicemail) and it does all the stuff that iMessage and Face Time do, often a bit more elegantly. The only significant drawback of Hangouts for messaging is the lack of good Search function.

Here is a description of the Hangouts messaging integration from last Autumn:

"There’s even a small SMS icon in the top left corner of any Hangouts conversations you are having so you’ll always know whether you are using SMS or IM. With the integration of Google Voice SMS and voicemail into Hangouts, Google is presenting us with a truly compelling, all-encompassing messaging platform that is cross-platform and carrier-independent. All of your voice calls, SMS, MMS (some MMS), and voicemail can be managed through Hangouts on a device that only has Wi-Fi connectivity. Wireless carriers may not be happy with this, but I certainly am."

http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...-google-voice-sms-integration-mobile-web.html

Overall, Android has pulled ahead of iOS since 4.2 and is getting better. iOS caught up in most areas with iOS8, but that's exactly what it did: catch up, and not in all areas.

The iPhone 6+ had the best camera and the best fingerprint sensor and this is why I switched. But the new Galaxy S6 appears to have dramatically improved the camera and from initial reviews, it seem better than the 6+. It has also dramatically improved the fingerprint sensor.

With the Chinese brands making a hard push into the higher end market, Apple really needs to do better to stay in the top tier in the long run.
 
That will be the day when Apple doesn't care about battery life. Speech recognition eats power. The problem is that Siri must be listening all the time to make sure she hears you saying "Hey Siri". That's why you have to press a button to activate it when you are on battery.

This isn't a battery life problem for the always listening "Ok, Google" on the Android platform.
 
This isn't a battery life problem for the always listening "Ok, Google" on the Android platform.

Because the phones that support that paricular aspect of that feature have separate hardware that does it so that the battery doesn't get drained as much as it otherwise would.
 
Because the phones that support that paricular aspect of that feature have separate hardware that does it so that the battery doesn't get drained as much as it otherwise would.

In other words, Apple hardware is now falling behind too.
 
One thing I'd like to see is Siri being able to accept a verbal password.

When I'm in my car and the phone happens to be locked (after 5 mins per my settings), I cannot get Siri to read my incoming texts to me. It asks me to unlock my phone and I cannot accomplish that while staying hands-free. I wish it could detect that I am moving in my car (easily accomplished) and ask for a verbal passcode instead.

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Annoying that is shows on your lock screen, but will then read msgs back when locked via siri.
 
In other words, Apple hardware is now falling behind too.
Yes, clearly the primary interpretation of the fact that Apple so far hasn't decided to spend precious limited space for separate hardware just to listen to voice commands at random times is that Apple is falling behind in hardware.
 
Yes, clearly the primary interpretation of the fact that Apple so far hasn't decided to spend precious limited space for separate hardware just to listen to voice commands at random times is that Apple is falling behind in hardware.

It's a miracle that multiple hardware makers can do so - often at lower cost. But, really, why should Apple do it when they can fleece the sheep for more while offering less?
 
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