Incorrect. Performance was only one of several reasons, and it was not the most important. Please google then read the "Thoughts on Flash" memo.
Not the most important? So, then, when quoting a 10-hour battery life as being the distinguishing factor on an iPad for what it's used for, and comparing it to a 4-hour battery life netbook, then saying how much better the iPad is... you're saying that's not the most important? Because really, then, any notebook can be leaps and bounds better than an iPad if we aren't talking battery life.
Seriously, stop backtracking on arguments that your favorite company has used when trying to mold your arguments.
Also, "killed Flash support in their devices" is incorrect. They didn't kill it; Apple never had Flash support in any iOS device.
Yawn. Their OS always supported flash - until they ported it over to the iPhone and started calling it iOS. This is why my MacBook Pro still uses, and supports, Flash. They killed the support in iOS. But if that's all you have to argue on instead of actual facts, so be it.
Again, nonsense. There are plenty of sites which have an iPad-specific version. None of those sites have ANY flash on them.
And good for those sites. Conversely with your argument, that means that there are plenty of sites that DON'T have iPad versions, and DO have flash. So this is a pretty baseless and useless statement. Especially when the iPad and Apple purport to give you the entire internet in your hands.
The implication is that one cannot access those services on your iPad. But that's also nonsense: there's a CNN iPad app, and plenty of weather iPad apps.
But are those Weather.gov apps? No. I want the NWS on my phone, and I want the radar they have on their site. That's not even an option on my phone, and with the arguments about spending money and taxes, I don't dare want to hear "Well then they should upgrade their sites".
On top of that, the CNN app is garbage on my phone. It is hell trying to find articles which have pushed off their top three stories on their website.
Nope. I never run flash on FB on my mac. And there is a FB app, too.
GASP! You mean, you don't use something like someone else might? You mean, that just because you don't play games or anything else flash-based on FB, the entire world should do as you do?
Who said that? I didn't say that.
Complex sites can either make an iPad app or code it in HTML5. CNN has done that. FB has done that.
Your favorite love said that: Apple.
You clearly have never ever read the "Thoughts on Flash" video. Sigh.
I have, and I find the arguments tripe. I was never a fan of Steve Jobs telling the consumer (read: idiot, in his mind) what they should do, instead of letting the consumer do what they want. This is why the JB community started. And was aptly named. JAIL. BREAK. I'm not a conspiricy theorist, but Jobs was a control freak to put it lightly, and if he couldn't have a perfect world, he created it by oversimplifying everything, including telling you what to think.
You NEVER could "do everything" with Flash. If you needed accessibility adapters on your computer, you were SOL with Flash sites. Flash never ever supported accessibility. That was the most important reason cited by Jobs for ditching Flash.
Again. More tripe. That's a GREAT PR reason. But not the real reason, in my opinion. He lied about it, made it a "non-issue", then backtracked and tried to look good PR-wise.
It's an illusion that everyone could always "do everything" on any computer. It's a rather pointless goal. Flash ceased having any resemblance to a "universal" solution about 5 years ago. Now that Adobe has abandoned Flash development for mobile devices, Flash is officially legacy code on websites.
So just because you couldn't "do everything" on any computer, it's okay that they take away another big piece of the internet, because, hey, you already can't "do everything", what's one more piece?
PLEASE. USE. LOGIC.
That's another nonsense claim. You're up to 6 in this post.
I'm sorry logic escapes you. I can't fix that for you.
When iOS was announced to be Flash-free, we all knew there was going to be some squealing -- squealing that escalated when the Flash-advocates realized that the iPad would also be Flash-free. They knew what that meant for their legacy websites and the long-term viability of the Flash platform.
The alternative would be living through the next 20 years with badly-performing Flash code. Adobe did finally do a half-assed job at accessibility last year, but it was proprietary (Windows only) and not a universal solution. Adobe doesn't get it: "proprietary accessibility" is an oxymoron.
Jobs -- and Apple -- saw this. They predicted the way to minimize the suffering in the long run was to go ahead and make web browsers on iOS platforms Flash-free. Cut the head off of the horse. The majority of the pain is already over: any site worth their salt has either already ditched its Flash code or is in the process of gutting it.
Flash advocates? Really? How about normal people that use the web. Are those people Flash advocates? I'm not defending Flash in any sort of means: I think it's a resource hog. But I won't be completely bonkers and say that it doesn't matter and that it's better to not have it. Get a grip.
And again, pure tripe. Accessability is only a PR reason, and a reason you obviously believe hook, line, and sinker. I can present facts, but if you're such an Apple fanatic that you can again, see no wrong Apple does, then I could type fact after fact until my fingers fall off and you'd just keep using circular, and illogical reasoning as to why Apple is the best.
BTW: if there is some Flash you just cannot live without, then ask the site that hosts it to package their code into an iOS app. Have 'em put it in the App Store. They can give it away for free or charge $$$ for the app. Simple.
Read above. You really expect companies to redo their sites just because Apple says so? Get a ******** grip, dude. The world does not revolve around Apple and Jobs, just because he thought it did.
I won't argue whether or not Jobs changed the world. I just wonder sometimes if he sacrificed doing it the right way with doing it in a controlled manner that limited the impact that his visions had. Case in point: mobile data and constant connectivity has changed the world for the good.
Limiting it to the app store, using Apple arbitrary rules for acceptance and approval turned it into a "big brother" way of doing business. He became exactly what he was trying to rebel against, in the search for perfection. In other words, instead of making a device to be perfect, he limited it to be perfect.
If you, or anyone else, can't admit to that fact, then either you aren't very creative in your own rights, or you are using the device to do very basic functions.
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Misguided loyalty? Hmmm. I tend to give my loyalty to people or companies that consistently treat me well, and Apple has treated me very well over the past few years I have been using their products. Apple customer service has always been 5 stars for me. The workshops they provide are excellent and free, you can have a personal and free genius appointment any day of the week that 99% of the time will solve your problem, and if your device is broken....they fix or replace it without question.....in many instances even if it is out of warranty. The only other company that I have had this kind of experience with is Toyota, and I am also loyal to them. Good service and product attract loyalty, and there is absolutely nothing misguided in that. It is a personal experience and feeling that has been earned by said company and is the right of every individual to give.
This is what MSN Money had to say about Apple in
this article.
"The 2011 Customer Service Hall of Fame
Since the technology company opened its retail stores 10 years ago, Apple has become more than a self-marketed symbol of hipness. It has become the de facto standard of service by which other technology companies are now measured. "Can you imagine Apple doing that?" people ask, while ranting about . . . whatever."
If you go to "
The American Customer Satisfaction Index", you will find that Apple is number one in customer service for 2011. Below is part of a
graph that can be found here that shows Apple against other well known tech companies. The original graph goes all the way back to 1995 and is worth looking at.
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BTW....I have had no issues with my new iPad 64gb LTE. It performs above and beyond what I expected of it. My neighbor across the street is having the same experience, as is my brother with his. My employer has had no issues with his new iPad, a teacher at my sons after school program bought 3 of them for her family and has had no issues, and my friend who bought one has had no issues. So, there are 8 new iPads that I am personally aware of in the real world, with none of the issues being sensationalized by the media.
Fans of a company usually have a real reason to be that is neither blind nor misguided. If you don't like Apple, then move on and see if you can get a better experience elsewhere. It won't hurt my feelings because that is your right. People don't have to like Apple, but the people that do and are loyal, devoted, and happy fans....have every right to be without having to defend their position.
Have a nice day thetoad30....wherever you decide to go.
I'm glad that you are a user that doesn't require above and beyond efforts from a company, and uses simple functions on the devices purchased.
I have never had an appointment with Apple that a "genius" didn't try to get out of honoring their warranty. Only after arguing with them on something subjective (they tried to tell me I spilled liquid in a MacBook I had in for service - the delete key was not working because the key actually broke. And no, I had never spilled liquid in the thing.) did they fix my problem. It's been a struggle every time.
And no, the appointment isn't free. It's Apple's way of doing warranty work. So that's moot.
And remember Toyota? I think they were in the news for something... what was it... oh yeah. Lying their a$$es off about problems with their cars. Yet somehow you're still loyal to them. Okay, your choice.
I choose to look at the good, and the bad, side of companies. Especially when they're taking my hard-earned cash. Or, I don't know, their product has my life in their hands, like Toyota. Or, maybe even my family's.
But if you want to keep being blind and giving your faith to them, by all means.
So yes, I will go wherever I want, and I will continue to try to inject some unbiased logic into these forums. Because the stink of Apple lovechild is so thick it deserves to be cut.
And if it didn't hurt your feelings, then why such an emotional response, where you try to quote articles done by news agencies? I could care less what a news agency says. They also used to say that AT&T was the best provider out there.
Again, it's kind of like choosing between eating dog crap or cow crap. Both are still crap. When there's no choice but what the companies tell you, you are pretty much stuck.
So much for creativity and innovation.
And again, just because you SAY there's no issue, doesn't mean there isn't one. You could not be using it like CR did. CR could have had a faulty one. There could be a bad batch. Or, gasp... maybe it still is an issue but isn't one that affects your usage of the device. Once again, just because you think in one very narrow way, doesn't mean everyone else does.
