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From a methodology perspective and a journalistic integrity perspective, yes...they are.

1) They stood by their original assessment of "antennagate" and never wavered from it, regardless of the hype produced by Apple.
2) They have effectively downgraded all other tablet computers relative to the superlative user experience of the iPad 3. This is almost unheard of it most review publications...you never see contextual rating changes like this. I admire the integrity this shows.

Whether you agree or disagree with their findings is up to the individual reader. But I have no issue with their methodology.

I was being sarcastic. Many here were blasting CR because they said the new iPad runs hotter than the iPad 2 and that the charger can't keep up. Both are true statements and that caused an uproar here even though they said nothing bad about the iPad.
 
It is dead. Just like Windows XP.

No growth, just a slow release from life support.

Only an idiot would still develop for brain-dead standards.

What an arrogant way of thinking.:rolleyes:

Just because you think you should be on the bleeding edge, doesn't mean that companies will be.

I have worked at a couple high-tech companies that are just now beginning to roll out Windows 7. Windows XP is still alive and kicking...

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CR went with a sensationalistic headline for the article. Now, we see that 0% of their customers have a serious problem with the heat. The complaints were not worthy of CR's headline: "Our test finds new iPad hits 116 degrees while running games." It was sensationalistic link-bait designed to get hits for CR's website.

It was inappropriate to have it be the lead for the story.

Not entirely sure how the truth and basis of an article is considered sensationalistic and that it shouldn't be the head of an article.:rolleyes:
 
You Can Fry An Egg On The IPAD! Heat Could be Dangerous!

Could be radioactive or something else we don't know about today until too late. Beware!
 
Jobs explained why Flash was a non-starter two years ago in his Thoughts on Flash memo. All of those reasons apply to the iPhone, iPod Touch, and the iPad.

What exact website are you talking about that hasn't gotten the memo about flash? Do they really not have an iOS app for their service?

First, the only reason they killed Flash support in their devices was because they couldn't engineer something that would still have a long runtime on the battery. So they should have just said so.

Second, every major website I've seen has some sort of Flash in it.

CNN did/does. Weather.gov does. Two pretty major sites in the US, if you ask me.

And, to throw in a worldly popular site - Facebook.

So yes, Flash is still around the web, and yes, to say you do everything on the web, would mean you do Flash.

What was that commercial... "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone."

"If you can't do everything, you can't do everything." It goes both ways. Somehow Apple fans can't imagine that and always think it's a one-way street.
 
Yeah, Sure. Who Sponsored This report, Apple?

Don't believe these numbers, which can be twisted by the sponsors. "If we just change these dislikes to likes..."
 
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That is essentially subsidizing the lower end models. If nobody paid for the upgraded models apple might have to raise the base price above 499.

Proof? Link to support?

I can't stand Apple fans who spew such conjecture as run-of-the-mill fact. They've never said this, and this is only your guess, which may be wrong.:rolleyes:
 
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And for your battery question: a Netbook with an Atom and same size battery as the new iPad will last longer than the iPad.

********! That's why they are using Atom processors in all the tablets....Right? Oh wait....No they're not, because the Atom processor sucks. Not only is it powerless, but has crap battery life.....unless you think 4 hours is great runtime. That coupled with the wild success of the iPad is why the netbooks have gone the way of the dodo...:rolleyes:

I tried the new version, and for me the display alone is not enough of an upgrade, especially when there are some downgrades elsewhere (thicker, heavier, not very comfortably to hold because of the temperature, slightly slower in loading pages, because of the amount of pixels to draw.)

Again....********! Downgrades.....Really? I guess if you are petite, then the extremely minor size and weight difference would be a bother, but I have not had any problem with it. I have not felt anything that could be considered uncomfortable heat either. And, considering that the new iPads have a quad core gpu it loads pages pretty ripping fast....at least on mine.

I guess some people will never be satisfied. Maybe you should just switch to Samsung or Asus.
 
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I calmly said, "No. All electronics get hot when in use. What do you think will happen to metal/gold/plastic when millions of transistors are firing at the same time? Get colder?

well yes, but I think that what people are commenting on with the new ipad is that it gets appreciably hotter than the ipad 2. I've never, not once, felt any heat from my ipad 2, but noticed my ipad 3 getting warm within the first hour of use. Which is not to say that is a "flaw" or makes the ipad 3 a bad device, but it's noticeable because it's a distinct difference from the model that came directly before.
 
So translation of man answering survey...
Very big problem - It happened to me or sexual partner.
Somewhat of a problem - It happened to family member or close friend, but won't impact my sex life.
Not much of problem - it might of happened to that blond in marketing but I was sort of zoned out watching her boobs to pay attention to what she was saying.

;-)
 
Not entirely sure how the truth and basis of an article is considered sensationalistic and that it shouldn't be the head of an article.:rolleyes:

It was already covered in this discussion: Because the heat is not a serious problem for 0% of their readership responding to their poll.

It was not worthy of a headline, and definitely not a sensationalistic one.
 
First, the only reason they killed Flash support in their devices was because they couldn't engineer something that would still have a long runtime on the battery. So they should have just said so.

Incorrect. Performance was only one of several reasons, and it was not the most important. Please google then read the "Thoughts on Flash" memo.

Also, "killed Flash support in their devices" is incorrect. They didn't kill it; Apple never had Flash support in any iOS device.

Second, every major website I've seen has some sort of Flash in it.

Again, nonsense. There are plenty of sites which have an iPad-specific version. None of those sites have ANY flash on them. :D

CNN did/does. Weather.gov does. Two pretty major sites in the US, if you ask me.

The implication is that one cannot access those services on your iPad. But that's also nonsense: there's a CNN iPad app, and plenty of weather iPad apps.

And, to throw in a worldly popular site - Facebook.

Nope. I never run flash on FB on my mac. And there is a FB app, too.

So yes, Flash is still around the web, and yes, to say you do everything on the web, would mean you do Flash.

Who said that? I didn't say that.

Complex sites can either make an iPad app or code it in HTML5. CNN has done that. FB has done that.

"If you can't do everything, you can't do everything." It goes both ways.

You clearly have never ever read the "Thoughts on Flash" video. Sigh.

You NEVER could "do everything" with Flash. If you needed accessibility adapters on your computer, you were SOL with Flash sites. Flash never ever supported accessibility. That was the most important reason cited by Jobs for ditching Flash.

Go. Read. The. Memo.

It's an illusion that everyone could always "do everything" on any computer. It's a rather pointless goal. Flash ceased having any resemblance to a "universal" solution about 5 years ago. Now that Adobe has abandoned Flash development for mobile devices, Flash is officially legacy code on websites.

Somehow Apple fans can't imagine that and always think it's a one-way street.

That's another nonsense claim. You're up to 6 in this post. :)

When iOS was announced to be Flash-free, we all knew there was going to be some squealing -- squealing that escalated when the Flash-advocates realized that the iPad would also be Flash-free. They knew what that meant for their legacy websites and the long-term viability of the Flash platform.

The alternative would be living through the next 20 years with badly-performing Flash code. Adobe did finally do a half-assed job at accessibility last year, but it was proprietary (Windows only) and not a universal solution. Adobe doesn't get it: "proprietary accessibility" is an oxymoron.

Jobs -- and Apple -- saw this. They predicted the way to minimize the suffering in the long run was to go ahead and make web browsers on iOS platforms Flash-free. Cut the head off of the horse. The majority of the pain is already over: any site worth their salt has either already ditched its Flash code or is in the process of gutting it.

BTW: if there is some Flash you just cannot live without, then ask the site that hosts it to package their code into an iOS app. Have 'em put it in the App Store. They can give it away for free or charge $$$ for the app. Simple.
 
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Worlds most stupid comment right here. I dont expect an ipad to make me a coffee but am i asking too much to view all web pages?

I think his/her point was that people who buy an iPad don't expect it to support flash. Just like they don't expect it to make coffee. Sure there are people who buy it without doing basic research or asking questions...but by now...anyone who buys an iPad thinking it plays flash derserves the dissapointment for not doing basic research on the thing.

If so. Fair enough. In my view came across differently. In America and the uk flash is less important. For example in the uk u can get sky sports on the ipad i believe. But when you live in a country that doesnt have apps like that it can be a deal breaker. But if i ever did buy an ipad i could hardly complain then that it doesnt have flash as they never have or would.

So you are saying flash is a third world tool? I agree.

If u think every country outside the states and uk are 3rd world. Then i can see thats the start of all ur fanboys problems. Too much time on the ipad not enough time at school.
 
It was already covered in this discussion: Because the heat is not a serious problem for 0% of their readership responding to their poll.

It was not worthy of a headline, and definitely not a sensationalistic one.

Circular reasoning at its finest here.

First, if you read closer, it says that it was "Not a problem/Haven't experienced any problem". This wording completely changes the definition of the survey.

Just because you don't notice something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.:rolleyes:

If something is a fact, it doesn't make it sensational. Read the definition:

Dictionary.com: subject matter, language, or style producing or designed to produce startling or thrilling impressions or to excite and please vulgar taste.

Stating that it gets to 116 degrees is not sensationalism.

"iPad rockets to new temperature heights!" is sensationalism.

And how much of a sample size was it? Again, just because people are responding to the poll doesn't mean that it's a true sample of the population, or that people using it go to their site. Kind of like this site: It's really hard to find anyone on here with a logical, scientific mind that isn't spewing either blind Apple love or blind Apple hate.

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So much for all those "real world" issues the iPad has

If you're living in the real world, it still has the issues.

As I've stated before, only the user can determine if it's an issue that will affect them depending on use.

You and others still seem to be missing that point, or just refusing to admit that the issue exists solely due to some kind of misguided loyalty to a company/name brand.

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If u think every country outside the states and uk are 3rd world. Then i can see thats the start of all ur fanboys problems. Too much time on the ipad not enough time at school.

+1. I'm actually in the US, but your point still rings true. Most of the people who blindly defend Apple with "non-issue" or "Apple is the best" are those of the age where failure was never an option for them. I won't go on and on about society today, but needless to say, when faced with the option of failure, instead of knowing how to deal with it, admit it, rectify it, and move on, it's all about how and why the issue doesn't exist and that "you're holding it wrong".

There is such a thing as sheltering your kids too much. Luckily my parents, while sheltering me, pointed out mistakes, disciplined me, and snapped me back to reality when I got out of shape.
 
If you're living in the real world, it still has the issues.

As I've stated before, only the user can determine if it's an issue that will affect them depending on use.

You and others still seem to be missing that point, or just refusing to admit that the issue exists solely due to some kind of misguided loyalty to a company/name brand.


Misguided loyalty? Hmmm. I tend to give my loyalty to people or companies that consistently treat me well, and Apple has treated me very well over the past few years I have been using their products. Apple customer service has always been 5 stars for me. The workshops they provide are excellent and free, you can have a personal and free genius appointment any day of the week that 99% of the time will solve your problem, and if your device is broken....they fix or replace it without question.....in many instances even if it is out of warranty. The only other company that I have had this kind of experience with is Toyota, and I am also loyal to them. Good service and product attract loyalty, and there is absolutely nothing misguided in that. It is a personal experience and feeling that has been earned by said company and is the right of every individual to give.

This is what MSN Money had to say about Apple in this article.

"The 2011 Customer Service Hall of Fame

Since the technology company opened its retail stores 10 years ago, Apple has become more than a self-marketed symbol of hipness. It has become the de facto standard of service by which other technology companies are now measured. "Can you imagine Apple doing that?" people ask, while ranting about . . . whatever."


If you go to "The American Customer Satisfaction Index", you will find that Apple is number one in customer service for 2011. Below is part of a graph that can be found here that shows Apple against other well known tech companies. The original graph goes all the way back to 1995 and is worth looking at.

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BTW....I have had no issues with my new iPad 64gb LTE. It performs above and beyond what I expected of it. My neighbor across the street is having the same experience, as is my brother with his. My employer has had no issues with his new iPad, a teacher at my sons after school program bought 3 of them for her family and has had no issues, and my friend who bought one has had no issues. So, there are 8 new iPads that I am personally aware of in the real world, with none of the issues that are being sensationalized by the media. Bottom line is....Apple is THE BIG target for the media. They will make a big issue out of something even if the so called "Issue" is experienced by a relative few. Just the price you have to pay for being #1. If you feel you have to capitalize on sensationalized issues hyped by the media.....I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

Fans of a company usually have real reasons to be fans and are neither blind nor misguided. If you don't like Apple, then move on and see if you can get a better experience elsewhere. It won't hurt my feelings because that is your right. People don't have to like Apple, but the people that do and are loyal, devoted, and happy fans....have every right to be without having to defend their position.

Have a nice day thetoad30....wherever you decide to go.
 
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Incorrect. Performance was only one of several reasons, and it was not the most important. Please google then read the "Thoughts on Flash" memo.

Not the most important? So, then, when quoting a 10-hour battery life as being the distinguishing factor on an iPad for what it's used for, and comparing it to a 4-hour battery life netbook, then saying how much better the iPad is... you're saying that's not the most important? Because really, then, any notebook can be leaps and bounds better than an iPad if we aren't talking battery life.

Seriously, stop backtracking on arguments that your favorite company has used when trying to mold your arguments.

Also, "killed Flash support in their devices" is incorrect. They didn't kill it; Apple never had Flash support in any iOS device.

Yawn. Their OS always supported flash - until they ported it over to the iPhone and started calling it iOS. This is why my MacBook Pro still uses, and supports, Flash. They killed the support in iOS. But if that's all you have to argue on instead of actual facts, so be it.


Again, nonsense. There are plenty of sites which have an iPad-specific version. None of those sites have ANY flash on them. :D

And good for those sites. Conversely with your argument, that means that there are plenty of sites that DON'T have iPad versions, and DO have flash. So this is a pretty baseless and useless statement. Especially when the iPad and Apple purport to give you the entire internet in your hands.


The implication is that one cannot access those services on your iPad. But that's also nonsense: there's a CNN iPad app, and plenty of weather iPad apps.

But are those Weather.gov apps? No. I want the NWS on my phone, and I want the radar they have on their site. That's not even an option on my phone, and with the arguments about spending money and taxes, I don't dare want to hear "Well then they should upgrade their sites".

On top of that, the CNN app is garbage on my phone. It is hell trying to find articles which have pushed off their top three stories on their website.

Nope. I never run flash on FB on my mac. And there is a FB app, too.

GASP! You mean, you don't use something like someone else might? You mean, that just because you don't play games or anything else flash-based on FB, the entire world should do as you do?

Who said that? I didn't say that.

Complex sites can either make an iPad app or code it in HTML5. CNN has done that. FB has done that.

Your favorite love said that: Apple.

You clearly have never ever read the "Thoughts on Flash" video. Sigh.

I have, and I find the arguments tripe. I was never a fan of Steve Jobs telling the consumer (read: idiot, in his mind) what they should do, instead of letting the consumer do what they want. This is why the JB community started. And was aptly named. JAIL. BREAK. I'm not a conspiricy theorist, but Jobs was a control freak to put it lightly, and if he couldn't have a perfect world, he created it by oversimplifying everything, including telling you what to think.

You NEVER could "do everything" with Flash. If you needed accessibility adapters on your computer, you were SOL with Flash sites. Flash never ever supported accessibility. That was the most important reason cited by Jobs for ditching Flash.

Again. More tripe. That's a GREAT PR reason. But not the real reason, in my opinion. He lied about it, made it a "non-issue", then backtracked and tried to look good PR-wise.

It's an illusion that everyone could always "do everything" on any computer. It's a rather pointless goal. Flash ceased having any resemblance to a "universal" solution about 5 years ago. Now that Adobe has abandoned Flash development for mobile devices, Flash is officially legacy code on websites.

So just because you couldn't "do everything" on any computer, it's okay that they take away another big piece of the internet, because, hey, you already can't "do everything", what's one more piece?

PLEASE. USE. LOGIC.

That's another nonsense claim. You're up to 6 in this post. :)

I'm sorry logic escapes you. I can't fix that for you.

When iOS was announced to be Flash-free, we all knew there was going to be some squealing -- squealing that escalated when the Flash-advocates realized that the iPad would also be Flash-free. They knew what that meant for their legacy websites and the long-term viability of the Flash platform.

The alternative would be living through the next 20 years with badly-performing Flash code. Adobe did finally do a half-assed job at accessibility last year, but it was proprietary (Windows only) and not a universal solution. Adobe doesn't get it: "proprietary accessibility" is an oxymoron.

Jobs -- and Apple -- saw this. They predicted the way to minimize the suffering in the long run was to go ahead and make web browsers on iOS platforms Flash-free. Cut the head off of the horse. The majority of the pain is already over: any site worth their salt has either already ditched its Flash code or is in the process of gutting it.

Flash advocates? Really? How about normal people that use the web. Are those people Flash advocates? I'm not defending Flash in any sort of means: I think it's a resource hog. But I won't be completely bonkers and say that it doesn't matter and that it's better to not have it. Get a grip.

And again, pure tripe. Accessability is only a PR reason, and a reason you obviously believe hook, line, and sinker. I can present facts, but if you're such an Apple fanatic that you can again, see no wrong Apple does, then I could type fact after fact until my fingers fall off and you'd just keep using circular, and illogical reasoning as to why Apple is the best.

BTW: if there is some Flash you just cannot live without, then ask the site that hosts it to package their code into an iOS app. Have 'em put it in the App Store. They can give it away for free or charge $$$ for the app. Simple.

Read above. You really expect companies to redo their sites just because Apple says so? Get a ******** grip, dude. The world does not revolve around Apple and Jobs, just because he thought it did.

I won't argue whether or not Jobs changed the world. I just wonder sometimes if he sacrificed doing it the right way with doing it in a controlled manner that limited the impact that his visions had. Case in point: mobile data and constant connectivity has changed the world for the good.

Limiting it to the app store, using Apple arbitrary rules for acceptance and approval turned it into a "big brother" way of doing business. He became exactly what he was trying to rebel against, in the search for perfection. In other words, instead of making a device to be perfect, he limited it to be perfect.

If you, or anyone else, can't admit to that fact, then either you aren't very creative in your own rights, or you are using the device to do very basic functions.

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Misguided loyalty? Hmmm. I tend to give my loyalty to people or companies that consistently treat me well, and Apple has treated me very well over the past few years I have been using their products. Apple customer service has always been 5 stars for me. The workshops they provide are excellent and free, you can have a personal and free genius appointment any day of the week that 99% of the time will solve your problem, and if your device is broken....they fix or replace it without question.....in many instances even if it is out of warranty. The only other company that I have had this kind of experience with is Toyota, and I am also loyal to them. Good service and product attract loyalty, and there is absolutely nothing misguided in that. It is a personal experience and feeling that has been earned by said company and is the right of every individual to give.

This is what MSN Money had to say about Apple in this article.

"The 2011 Customer Service Hall of Fame

Since the technology company opened its retail stores 10 years ago, Apple has become more than a self-marketed symbol of hipness. It has become the de facto standard of service by which other technology companies are now measured. "Can you imagine Apple doing that?" people ask, while ranting about . . . whatever."


If you go to "The American Customer Satisfaction Index", you will find that Apple is number one in customer service for 2011. Below is part of a graph that can be found here that shows Apple against other well known tech companies. The original graph goes all the way back to 1995 and is worth looking at.

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BTW....I have had no issues with my new iPad 64gb LTE. It performs above and beyond what I expected of it. My neighbor across the street is having the same experience, as is my brother with his. My employer has had no issues with his new iPad, a teacher at my sons after school program bought 3 of them for her family and has had no issues, and my friend who bought one has had no issues. So, there are 8 new iPads that I am personally aware of in the real world, with none of the issues being sensationalized by the media.

Fans of a company usually have a real reason to be that is neither blind nor misguided. If you don't like Apple, then move on and see if you can get a better experience elsewhere. It won't hurt my feelings because that is your right. People don't have to like Apple, but the people that do and are loyal, devoted, and happy fans....have every right to be without having to defend their position.

Have a nice day thetoad30....wherever you decide to go.

I'm glad that you are a user that doesn't require above and beyond efforts from a company, and uses simple functions on the devices purchased.

I have never had an appointment with Apple that a "genius" didn't try to get out of honoring their warranty. Only after arguing with them on something subjective (they tried to tell me I spilled liquid in a MacBook I had in for service - the delete key was not working because the key actually broke. And no, I had never spilled liquid in the thing.) did they fix my problem. It's been a struggle every time.

And no, the appointment isn't free. It's Apple's way of doing warranty work. So that's moot.

And remember Toyota? I think they were in the news for something... what was it... oh yeah. Lying their a$$es off about problems with their cars. Yet somehow you're still loyal to them. Okay, your choice.

I choose to look at the good, and the bad, side of companies. Especially when they're taking my hard-earned cash. Or, I don't know, their product has my life in their hands, like Toyota. Or, maybe even my family's.

But if you want to keep being blind and giving your faith to them, by all means.

So yes, I will go wherever I want, and I will continue to try to inject some unbiased logic into these forums. Because the stink of Apple lovechild is so thick it deserves to be cut.

And if it didn't hurt your feelings, then why such an emotional response, where you try to quote articles done by news agencies? I could care less what a news agency says. They also used to say that AT&T was the best provider out there.

Again, it's kind of like choosing between eating dog crap or cow crap. Both are still crap. When there's no choice but what the companies tell you, you are pretty much stuck.

So much for creativity and innovation.

And again, just because you SAY there's no issue, doesn't mean there isn't one. You could not be using it like CR did. CR could have had a faulty one. There could be a bad batch. Or, gasp... maybe it still is an issue but isn't one that affects your usage of the device. Once again, just because you think in one very narrow way, doesn't mean everyone else does.
 
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And again, just because you SAY there's no issue, doesn't mean there isn't one. You could not be using it like CR did. CR could have had a faulty one. There could be a bad batch. Or, gasp... maybe it still is an issue but isn't one that affects your usage of the device. Once again, just because you think in one very narrow way, doesn't mean everyone else does.
Or, more likely, using its standard methodology, CR was probably using the device in a shielded room. The maximum temp of the device was recorded at the location of the LTE chip. The antenna was likely at max power searching for a signal, when one was not available. A 4G antenna on max power on any device currently on the market will significantly increase the heat produced by the device and decrease its battery life (heck, my iPhone gets pretty hot when I'm in the basement of the hospital and don't turn off the antenna, for the exact same reason: shielding/interference maxing the power of the antenna). This is not to say that the "new iPad" does not produce more heat than the iPad 2, because everyone who has reported on testing the devices has found some increase in the temperature produced. However, no other test has been able to reproduce the results reported by CR.

The other problem with the CR article/headline is that they take the additional heat out of context. Most other tests have shown the heat produced by the "new iPad" (how I hate that designation) to be comparable to that produced by other devices in the same market, and considerably less than that produced by laptops. In general, I do find CR to be somewhat helpful in evaluating products, but I find their consumer surveys (sometimes with more than 100,000 responses) to be more useful than their editorial comments, because it is headline-grabbing articles, and not consumer surveys, that drive CR's subscription sales.
 
Mobile flash is dead? I use it everyday on my touchpad...

You may be surprised how much longer your battery lasts if you turn off Adobe Flash.

We all know that's one reason, I've seen Flash (especially in the old days) use 100% CPU Usage on one core (1 thread) because of terrible coding, so it kills the battery. Also, the other reason Apple didn't want to ever use Flash in iOS from the beginning is because it's buggy and has/had security holes. This is OLD news.

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" 'the Retina display can 'magnify imperfections' in low-resolution web content', with the magazine suggesting that in some cases such content appears worse on the new iPad than on the lower-resolution iPad 2."

I think this is rather dumb, (this whole point will be moot in the near future anyway). It sounds that they are attributing a "negative" to the new iPad Retina Display, rather than the webpage with the awful bitmap images (especially if it should have been vector or real text).

Obviously I would rather see high resolution everything even if it means I'll (rarely) notice poor web design. But I don't think any good webpage will have any low resolution bitmaps for long. Again, in the future, this whole point will be moot.
 
First, the only reason they killed Flash support in their devices was because they couldn't engineer something that would still have a long runtime on the battery. So they should have just said so.

Second, every major website I've seen has some sort of Flash in it.

CNN did/does. Weather.gov does. Two pretty major sites in the US, if you ask me.

And, to throw in a worldly popular site - Facebook.

So yes, Flash is still around the web, and yes, to say you do everything on the web, would mean you do Flash.

What was that commercial... "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone."

"If you can't do everything, you can't do everything." It goes both ways. Somehow Apple fans can't imagine that and always think it's a one-way street.

Facebook has an app so does CNN. Sites that "DID" use flash are irralevant Even Adobe has abandoned flash for mobile products in favor of HTML 5. If it wasn't for Apple telling adobe to go screw themselves with their unoptomized plug in, you'd be stuck with sites that lag on tablets for years instead of HTML5 based sites you see so many of today. Every once in a while you have to let the other ball drop to get things moving for the better vs being content. Your excuses for why they did it are just that, excuses. Flash for mobile sucks, Apple knew it long before most other people and folks like you still haven't caught on.
 
Not entirely sure how the truth and basis of an article is considered sensationalistic and that it shouldn't be the head of an article.:rolleyes:

The CR Report is absolutely sensationalism and as a subscriber I can tell you the letters to the editor are filled with seasoned readers complaining of a lack of professionalism on some of their consumee electronics coverage.

The issue is not up for debate: the new iPad runs noticeably hotter than the iPad 2, but it is the headline and delivery of the article that makes the article sensationalistic. Don't believe me?

Marco Arment does a really good job of breaking it down literally line by line to expose the sensationalist intent.
 
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I'm glad that you are a user that doesn't require above and beyond efforts from a company, and uses simple functions on the devices purchased.

Assumption!

I have never had an appointment with Apple that a "genius" didn't try to get out of honoring their warranty. Only after arguing with them on something subjective (they tried to tell me I spilled liquid in a MacBook I had in for service - the delete key was not working because the key actually broke. And no, I had never spilled liquid in the thing.) did they fix my problem. It's been a struggle every time.

I guess some people have all the luck. Everyone gets what's coming to them.

And no, the appointment isn't free. It's Apple's way of doing warranty work. So that's moot.

Opinion!


And remember Toyota? I think they were in the news for something... what was it... oh yeah. Lying their a$$es off about problems with their cars. Yet somehow you're still loyal to them. Okay, your choice.

Again, I never had any of the media hyped problems and have had nothing but a 5 star experience and service with them since my first car(celica) in 1977.

I choose to look at the good, and the bad, side of companies. Especially when they're taking my hard-earned cash. Or, I don't know, their product has my life in their hands, like Toyota. Or, maybe even my family's.

But if you want to keep being blind and giving your faith to them, by all means.

Again, not blind....but earned by Toyota. I have left many companies in the dust by being willing to look at the good and bad side. Both Apple and Toyota have been nothing but 5 star companies in my experience. Both have gone well above and beyond any time I have needed service.

So yes, I will go wherever I want, and I will continue to try to inject some unbiased logic into these forums. Because the stink of Apple lovechild is so thick it deserves to be cut.

You do not sound unbiased. And to totally blow your assumption, I only started using Apple products about 4 years ago. Up to that point I was a MS devotee of 19 years. I am an Apple fan solely based on my experience since I started using their products. Nothing blind or biased about it....only personal experience and the experience of those I know and have read about.

And if it didn't hurt your feelings, then why such an emotional response, where you try to quote articles done by news agencies? I could care less what a news agency says. They also used to say that AT&T was the best provider out there.

And yet, you defend CR as if they were infallible.

MSN may be a news agency.....in this case reporting undisputed fact, but The ACSI is not. Their findings are based solely on customer experience, and in that....Apple is #1.


Again, it's kind of like choosing between eating dog crap or cow crap. Both are still crap. When there's no choice but what the companies tell you, you are pretty much stuck.

Again, your opinion....everyone has one.

So much for creativity and innovation.

Improvement and making something useful that was useless is creative and innovative. And again, Apple is #1 in every category of consumer electronic device it sells and the service they back them up with. Not because the media says so, but because consumers and the numbers say so.


And again, just because you SAY there's no issue, doesn't mean there isn't one. You could not be using it like CR did. CR could have had a faulty one. There could be a bad batch. Or, gasp... maybe it still is an issue but isn't one that affects your usage of the device. Once again, just because you think in one very narrow way, doesn't mean everyone else does.

I never said their were no issues. I said, in my experience and of those I know there are no issues. This I do know.....whatever issues do exist are greatly amplified and hyped by the media. As I said, Apple is THE #1 target right now. Referring to my last post...."If you feel you have to capitalize on sensationalized issues hyped by the media.....I guess you gotta do what you gotta do".

I am an advanced experienced user that puts all my devices through their paces. I like to customize. I like to get the most out of any product that I own. I rarely need customer service or help with electronics, but when I do....Apple has been that 5 star experience. It is not narrow thinking to appreciate and speak well of a company that has given you abundant reason to do so.

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