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Before, at least, if you wanted to charge the Pencil in the middle of nowhere with nothing more than your iPad you could, now you need one cable and one adapter. Beyond stupid.
It's clunky as hell. But it's the price of going with the cheap iPad now.
 
In the era of the forced upgrades by Apple strategy. Now, ladies and gentlemen. The announcement of the new iPads is complete. I knew something was missing. Just buy a cheap adapter to charge.
 
Ahhh...there we have it. That Apple-like thing. Update the port to USB-C. For whatever reason (more money) make it only compatible with the first gen pencil and then charge for a dongle. The reason...well because we moved the front-facing camera to the side, we're not able to have the magnetic dock for the 2nd gen pencil.
 
I think it’s a missed opportunity here to bring back Firewire for charging the pencil AND the iPad at the SAME time…like magic.

However you would need to pay for a monthly subscription fee to turn on FW charging that you can easily purchase using Apple Pay™.
 
Someone explain this to me like I'm five. Why does this even make sense for Apple? I know I know, people are saying it makes money, but it also costs money to produce three different things (Apple Pencil 1, Apple Pencil 2, adaptor). And, I don't think any of them are selling like hotcakes. Just seems like it'd be more profitable to make a single, generally usable accessory.
 
Before, at least, if you wanted to charge the Pencil in the middle of nowhere with nothing more than your iPad you could, now you need one cable and one adapter. Beyond stupid.
Right, I agree...it is dumb. The post I was replying to was saying that you couldn't charge from the iPad anymore and needed a power outlet, which is false.

Would have been better if it was a USB-C male to Lightning female adapter, but maybe they didn't want to cause confusion from people thinking they could use that to convert their existing lightning cables to USB-C cables. That'd probably work for charging, but not data transfer. I guess you could still do it this way too, but then that means you already have a USB-C cable and have no need for an adapter.
 
Someone explain this to me like I'm five. Why does this even make sense for Apple? I know I know, people are saying it makes money, but it also costs money to produce three different things (Apple Pencil 1, Apple Pencil 2, adaptor). And, I don't think any of them are selling like hotcakes. Just seems like it'd be more profitable to make a single, generally usable accessory.
Costs more to put the wireless charging tech into the iPad for the 2nd gen Pencil, maybe they didn't like the margins they would get if they had to put that tech in the 10th gen. They also put a camera in the 10 where the wireless charging pad is on the Air and Pro.

They already made a Lightning adapter for the Pencil gen 1, so it's similar to what they already have, but now the adapter is required for pairing or charging.

As to why use the 1st gen Pencil, some people think they overproduced the 1st gen Pencil so they are trying to use up old stock.
 
It may be too similar, but this is a product segmentation joke that's jumped the shark- not only is it ridiculously stingy, it's also a huge waste of plastic and a totally inefficient use of the product line. Just allow the base iPad to cannibalize the iPad Air and upgrade the Air with some new feature. Steve wasn't afraid to do this.

For iPhone 14, Apple put in a plastic filler in place of a SIM tray. The electronics are still on the logic board.

Apple's environmental waste are nothing but talk.
 
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I mean... It's bad enough that the new iPad doesn't support the new pencil 2 and that you have to carry around an adapter... But why this horrible form factor? Couldn't they have just used the same form factor as with the lightning to head phone jack form factor?

I mean this one:

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I dont think this is a correct pic. It looks exactly the same as the lightning to lightning adapter on apples site in accessories. Its called USB-C to Apple Pencil Adaptor.
 
Because this

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wasn't stupid enough already, they add an adapter.
Golly that looks more absurd than I remembered.
 
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It would have made more sense to make the 10th gen iPad compatible with the Apple Pencil 2 and keep the camera in the usual portrait orientation, then when they worked out how to have pencil charging and the camera on the same side of an iPad, introduce that with an updated 2023 iPad Pro and iPad.
 
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Apple nickel and dime the school kids who uses the basic ipad for school.
 
i feel like nobody in this thread has actually realized what is going on. Let me help out but it feels like people just like to troll.

- Every apple pencil comes with the adapter for free. they're not nickle and diming people who are purchasing it today
- The adapter isn't meant to be used with the ipad. it's more like a wall port. If you look it's female on both ends.

hope that helps.
 
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i feel like nobody in this thread has actually realized what is going on. Let me help out but it feels like people just like to troll.

- Every apple pencil comes with the adapter for free. they're not nickle and diming people who are purchasing it today
- The adapter isn't meant to be used with the ipad. it's more like a wall port. If you look it's female on both ends.

hope that helps.
It is meant to be used with the iPad. To pair it you need to use it and a USB-C to USB-C cable to the iPad. Otherwise you won't be able to connect at all. Which is super clunky and a weird way to do it, but such is life with the cheap iPad.

Maybe in every day use it's not meant to be used with the iPad since you don't need to pair it more than once.
 
It is meant to be used with the iPad. To pair it you need to use it and a USB-C to USB-C cable to the iPad. Otherwise you won't be able to connect at all. Which is super clunky and a weird way to do it, but such is life with the cheap iPad.

Maybe in every day use it's not meant to be used with the iPad since you don't need to pair it more than once.
right. it's not something you need to do everyday.

don't get me wrong. i think this design blows. but i think it's weird people are complaining about things that aren't even true like nickle and diming their customers.
 
HOW did this decision make any sense to anyone?
This is pure design by committee that Steve jobs was trying so very hard to get rid of.
 
Seriously pathetic. I saw someone blame this on the EU decision, how about.. and hear me out. They added support for the 2nd Gen pencil??!
The EU decision means that Apple will likely stop selling the 9th generation iPad in 2024. So the 10th generation will be the "budget" model by then.
 
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