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New iPad Pro Models May Be Prone to Bending
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What it has to do with is iOS on an iPad for many things provides an overall better user experience than windows. The form factor is more elegant and ios has a better user experience for those who can use these form factors. Imo.
Troubleshooting windows is not the issue it’s just not as elegant as iOS and has a set of headaches built in. After thirty years you would think troubleshooting by the user wouldn’t be required.
Troubleshooting is hardly limited to windows-based devices.
The elegance of iOS isn’t being disputed. Like I was saying, for some reason people feel compelled to defend apple’s choices with the iPad regardless of blatant shortcomings.
Let’s keep it simple then - please tell me how it’s productive or makes any sense to disable the iPad Pro from connecting an external storage device? One other glaring omission - how is it beneficial and elegant to have no real file system access on the iPad? How am I supposed to easily access my .psd files when using the upcoming full version of photoshop?
Simplicity to the point of being devoid of useful function does not equal elegance.
Not exactly an amazing feat, anyone who has ever cut themselves on a cardboard box trying to open it can attest to the fact that they're already very sharp
Or send him an iPad, so he can make knife out of it?
I would think through the files app via iCloud. But you can’t be the only one asking that question and there already has to be an answer.
I hope it also supports AirDrop, as should more apps, I reckon.
I use AirDrop with the ST-1 Pro music player app to copy my hi-res audio tracks across from the Mac, and I think that's the best way.
I am in the same position. I have had the new 11" for a week now. Treating it kindly, as I do with all electronics. Perhaps though, I will be a little more cautious given the reported ease of deformation.
I can't with these people. Maybe the iPad is supposed to be only on a desk at home.
“iPad Pro, the desktop computer reinvented”
Sorry my question was rhetorical - I’m aware that the files can be accessed but the process is crippled and roundabout. Being forced to use iCloud or Air Drop is the furthest thing from a good solution. It also means you need an Internet connection so no offline transfers. Don’t you guys see how ridiculous that is? Apple wants so badly to control how much physical storage space the user has access to.
Any device touting to be a professional tool should, at the very least, allow you to connect an external storage device.
These days even airplanes have WiFi and Apple makes it easy enough so one doesn’t have to carry around loads of other stuff, excluding charging bricks.
Haha. You’re kidding right? The excuses are endless and it makes no sense! Obviously Wi-Fi transfer is a given but it has NOTHING to do with my point. The new iPad has USB-C and you can’t even connect a tiny external drive to it! That’s ridiculous! No other computer or device is designed this way - Apple literally went out of their way to cripple the port.
And it’s not “loads of other stuff”. A 400gb SD XC card is currently $79 on amazon and it’s as big as a SIM card. Small, portable hard drives aren’t a nuisance for pros,(especially photographers) they’re a necessity.
Apple isn’t making anything easier as you are trying to say, they’re actually taking away functionality.
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I’m not going to ge a new iPad pro until I hear that either there is not a real life bend problem or they strengthen it.
I would be interested in a thread where people share there experience of it not bending or bending
It’s too expensive to risk right now although it looks an amazing device
I would be interested in a thread where people share there experience of it not bending or bending
It’s too expensive to risk right now although it looks an amazing device
This is exactly the point of FUD. Somebody intentionally destroys an iPad Pro, thereby making everybody wonder how durable it really is. Right out of Microsoft's playbook when they used FUD about whether Macs could access the network, read MS Office files, run any useful applications, etc, etc. Just have to worry people enough about the competing product so they buy your product instead.
Maybe you’re right I don’t know but that same guy recently did the same test on the Microsoft surface whatever -
What was noticeable in this video was that he didn’t destroy it quite with the same venom and quite obvious hatred he set about the iPad with- yes I acknowledge this guy must dislike Apple intently
But what also struck me was how much harder the MS was to bend - yes it bent but it noticeablely took more force, you could see his hands straining
The iPad appeared to Bend really easily- sorry but it looks flimsy
I was badly effected by touch disease with my 6 plus. Yes Apple replaced it with a 6 s plus but I was without a phone for almost 2 months
Sorry not going to spend $1500 on something which yes is amazing to use but could be very fragile
I will always buy Apple but I want there products to be the best designed AND engineered- they’ve nailed the design but the engineering may need improvement
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Nonsense.
The intention of "destroying" was to test & show the extreme point of critical failure of the housing and overall design. It's beyond clear and even more so in comparison with other bend videos of iPads and other non apple tablets that this gen3 iPP bends incredibly easy.
If you have an inability to judge this as many seem to we need to see some real independent lab bending tests.
The overall point is that since is i very likely to bend then under much lesser pressure encountered in typical day to day pressures it may have a higher failure rate and bend.
Finally, if the two anecdotes on this thread suggest BENT OUT OF THE BOX then it's a very serious design and build issue.
That's all that that concerns this thread. Nothing more.
As a final point. I for one will not be buying ab M$ product. I'll be buying the improved less prone to bending iPP Gen 3s when it arrives, as I did iP6s. Which was worth the wait, since we're only on iteration 3 of this device then I might have to wait a couple more iterations before buying in but I would not like to have to wait much longer.
The iPad seems to have slipped to a 1.5 year refresh cycle. I guess if your existing iPad is still working well for you, then there's no rush to upgrade, but I doubt we will see an iPad 3 scenario where Apple "corrects" the iPad with an updated model like 6 months down the road. Just be aware that we might well end up waiting till 2020 for the next iPad refresh.
At this point, barring the apparent fragility of the iPad, it does have fairly powerful specs which should be fairly future-proof, and nothing a decent case won't solve.
Case closed. Pun intended.
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I wonder can modifications to manufacturing be made without having to release an update.
In many countries this device would not conform to consumer laws and a customer would be entitled to return the device long after the purchase date if it displayed these demonstrated failures especially having looked at latest examples - Apple customers have already returned bent iPad Pro's per link above, so Apple know about, this is beyond any doubt.
The return rate has to have a serious cost.
The new iPad pro (gen 3) is broken before you own it.
This is now an established fact.
My guess is Apple will try to wing this to get past Christmas sales and then look to introduce a program and maybe re-tool production to incorporate some modifications to increase strength of the unibody housing without having to wait for a who knew release.
Also to capture the car analogy a bit better. If this was a new car, the car would be recalled from the market.
In conclusion:
I'd like to see Apple move fast on this one. They won't loose any credibility but if Apple delay then Apple risk credibility damage + rising costs and sales loss. For a flag ship product in a signature line it's an imperative Apple move swiftly. During this process I wonder will we find out who ****ed up bigly.
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For all those defending, don't complain about the resale value of your bendable or slightly bent iPP 3rd gen when Apple release the fixed and strengthened 4th gen. iPhone 6 had a bendgate issue but none shipped bent out of the box like the iPP 3rd gen.
Case closed. Pun intended.
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I wonder can modifications to manufacturing be made without having to release an update.
In many countries this device would not conform to consumer laws and a customer would be entitled to return the device long after the purchase date if it displayed these demonstrated failures especially having looked at latest examples - Apple customers have already returned bent iPad Pro's per link above, so Apple know about, this is beyond any doubt.
The return rate has to have a serious cost.
The new iPad pro (gen 3) is broken before you own it.
This is now an established fact.
My guess is Apple will try to wing this to get past Christmas sales and then look to introduce a program and maybe re-tool production to incorporate some modifications to increase strength of the unibody housing without having to wait for a who knew release.
Also to capture the car analogy a bit better. If this was a new car, the car would be recalled from the market.
In conclusion:
I'd like to see Apple move fast on this one. They won't loose any credibility but if Apple delay then Apple risk credibility damage + rising costs and sales loss. For a flag ship product in a signature line it's an imperative Apple move swiftly. During this process I wonder will we find out who ****ed up bigly.
Is there precedent for Apple making changes to their manufacturing process on the fly? None come to mind at the moment.
Case closed. Pun intended.
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I wonder can modifications to manufacturing be made without having to release an update.
In many countries this device would not conform to consumer laws and a customer would be entitled to return the device long after the purchase date if it displayed these demonstrated failures especially having looked at latest examples - Apple customers have already returned bent iPad Pro's per link above, so Apple know about, this is beyond any doubt.
The return rate has to have a serious cost.
The new iPad pro (gen 3) is broken before you own it.
This is now an established fact.
My guess is Apple will try to wing this to get past Christmas sales and then look to introduce a program and maybe re-tool production to incorporate some modifications to increase strength of the unibody housing without having to wait for a who knew release.
Also to capture the car analogy a bit better. If this was a new car, the car would be recalled from the market.
In conclusion:
I'd like to see Apple move fast on this one. They won't loose any credibility but if Apple delay then Apple risk credibility damage + rising costs and sales loss. For a flag ship product in a signature line it's an imperative Apple move swiftly. During this process I wonder will we find out who ****ed up bigly.
This is BS. The truth is you have *no idea* what kind of return rate Apple is facing due to bending. Even if you linked to 1,000 examples of returns, Apple sold *9.699 million iPads* last quarter. A .01% return rate for bend is not a problem.
In fact, one of the tweets—the one from Gal Somovic—that TNW linked is a demonstrable lie. The iPad Pro went on sale November 7. His tweet is dated November 19. He claims he got it bent out of the box. **Even assuming** he got the device on November 7, Day 1, he had until November 21 to return the device no questions asked (per Apple’s 14 day return policy). Instead, he claims he’s stuck with the device because he doesn’t have Apple Care. That’s a lie, and indicates a bad faith attempt to spread FUD.
A bit like your post.
Apple is not changing this model, because it works great.
I think this is proof that Tim has to go. Along with whoever was in charge of production. How can these two people not notice that it bends so easily? Have you seen the video from EverythingApplePro? It bends so easily that it looks like it's bending from melting. When your own CEO and chief of production don't even notice or try themselves it's time to clean house.
And i’m Sure if people do have them that bend in a large % then that’s something else. They won’t care based on a YouTuber who is trying to bend devices.