Apple SHOULD use 7075 and treat/age it to T6. But-you-know-they-ain't.
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New iPad Pro Models May Be Prone to Bending
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Apple SHOULD use 7075 and treat/age it to T6. But-you-know-they-ain't.
The Macalope weighs in:
https://www.macworld.com/article/33...eally-things-essential-and-bending-ipads.html
https://www.macworld.com/article/33...eally-things-essential-and-bending-ipads.html
I checked out a new iPad Pro in Target the other day, and I have to say that it just felt cheap to me compared to older iPads. I don't know why - the impression I had was it was less solid and quality.
Different strokes and all of that, I feel 100% opposite. The 1st and 2nd gen iPP's seem cheap and toy-like compared to the 3rd gen.
But hey, like art, these things are subjective.
Shocking opinion from a magazine that is all about Apple products! /s
And you are writing comments on a website called macrumors. Did you try to type macramé and just misspell it?
Nah, I didn't know that word before you typed it here. I'm just a big ole dummy.
If the black box is indestructible, they should make the whole plane out of the same material, right?
As a few other astute posters have pointed out there simply deformation to the aluminium or addition of structural supports that would have negated this easily, any denser and engineer should lie aware of, I think someone really fuccked up here. I really do. I think someone pushed hard to get their way and it wasn't stopped, or you have ton consider QC was non -existant but I'd buy the politically weight of someone to get this made as is.
Further, I wondered was this made of the much touted recycled aluminium and have the metallurgy team been part to blame or should they have been countenanced the melturgy team on the iPd Pro project. I did not find confirmation of that form the apple.com site.
Scott Forstall got hammered for software, software can be updated it's s soft fix, this is a hard fix, it requires re-engineering, a more physical costly screw up.
So many comments are pointless in this thread, they utterly miss the point and really seem not to grasp the fundamental point on display here.
You have ot understand, A long edge device like this has far greater leverage to bend which is only compounded by the thinness of the longest edges. I seem to remember at leat two comments claiming the iPad pro was bent out of the box. If those anecdotes are true, there is a serious design engineering flaws at play or serious oversight failures as demonstrated and Apple know about it for sure.
It a simple issue, it's not hysteria, it's not trying to find a flaw where there is none, it couldn't be simpler to understand but I guess the majority of people don't have a structural/engineering type mindset and that is ok.
If you want to understand how a flimsy material can be made very strong, look at single ply (one layer) corrugated cardboard, here you have to layers of heavy paper glued to another layer deformed in a sine wave, this introduced rigidity and structure and when assembled as one piece we get cardboard, a new material that has some very robust and useful performance attributes, you can make really strong but light boxes to carry heavy goods etc. etc. It's a perfect example where something far stronger is created than the individual parts through innovative material construction then further material application.
It's that elemental 101 stuff - Take a piece of payer fold it in two, now stand it on it's side, you've just increased its structural integrity massively that it can stand a loft whereas before it could only support it's weight flat.
One bend in a sheet of typical office paper and it's able to reach for the sky!
Someone really really really ****ed up at Apple.
What we need to do is get someone with access to a machine such as this used to test tolerance of materials, to exactly measure against previous devices. I would put money that the latest iPad Pro has the lowest structural tolerance to deal with such stresses compared to previous generations all the way back to the beginning.
Ultimately, the structural integrity of the iPad Pro housing has been brough into serious question - what appears to be a demonstration of very poor performance under stress - yet the people at Apple making this would know this instinctually as well as learned, or they should - it looks like they've broken a rule too far for some greater prize in their mind.
One of the solutions among the many suggested would be to create one or more groups of internal rigs in the running the length of the back plate, this would increase rigidity of the flat surface without losing much space. Second L, T or H structures as part of the unibody shell or addition at strategic points inside the housing vis a vis titanium or carbon lengths was also suggested would men this even more incredibly robust.
This is so elemental someone really did **** up at Apple.
To illustrate the point further, that it's about how you assemble the materials that makes the difference, this Japanese guy makes knives out of various materials, here he takes an amazon cardboard box and creates a very very sharp knife.
Now that's thinking outside the box!
Maybe Apple should give this guy a call. Seriously.
I find it interesting that the very same people who complained about the "hollow" sound of the non-laminated screens have no problem with the greater body flex of these new iPad Pros. 
The increased ability for the iPad chassis to flex might very well be the "silent killer" of these new iPad Pros. The problem for the iPhone 6 WASN'T that it was able to be bent easier than previous iPhones but that the body flex resulted in electrical connections becoming disconnected that manifested as "touch disease".
The increased ability for the iPad chassis to flex might very well be the "silent killer" of these new iPad Pros. The problem for the iPhone 6 WASN'T that it was able to be bent easier than previous iPhones but that the body flex resulted in electrical connections becoming disconnected that manifested as "touch disease".
Indeed, and while I've not followed this topic terribly closely, I do find the same arguments for the iPad as those refuting the issue with the iPhone 6 plus, i.e., blame the owner, arguing its not wide spread.
Exactly, that argument is null and void if they are coming bent out of the box.
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shhh... it needs pure titanium
Really with the right deformations, thickness is secondary, it's like they forgot what they were doing. Seriously. Someone really ****ed up here. Will they get the Scott Forstall treatment? Will they ****!
Apple copied the Surface pen but should've copied the build quality also.
Wow. It’s ridiculous how much more you get with the surface pro for $800. Apple gives you peanuts for the same price. Like most people in this forum I’m invested in the Apple ecosystem (iCloud, iMessage, photos, etc.) so considering a surface tablet has very little appeal. It’s undeniably frustrating though to see how conservative and controlling Apple is with the iPad line.
The processor in the iPad Pro is super-powered but the device is crippled from the start with iOS and limited connectivity - you can’t even connect an external usb drive to the iPad. All because Apple wants to force customers to buy all of the varying products - iPhone, MacBook, iPad, Apple Watch. If they gave the iPad more functionality it would canabalize sales from MacBook. Apple users should actually be pissed or at least frustrated by this but for some reason the default is denial and to defend Apple which makes zero sense to me. As long as Apple continues to rake in the cash there’s no reason for them to do anything differently.
At least it’s exciting to see that Adobe with be releasing full versions of creative cloud programs for iOS in 2019. It’s annoying to think that I still won’t be a able to connect an external drive with my files though.
Even more so with Black Friday deals like $700 for Surface Pro 6 i5/8GB/128GB bundle with Signature Alcantara keyboard. Compare to the iPro Pad running toyOS with keyboard for $1350.
https://slickdeals.net/f/12298447-m...er-i5-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-700-free-store-pickup
iPad has the Form factor battle.
What ridiculous is how many more headaches you get with windows. I require windows but would take an iPad every day of the week over an surface if I could.
Other options:
BHPhoto $800 (no tax in some states and free shipping) Surface Pro 6 i5/8GB/128GB with Signature Alcantara keyboard
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1440577-REG/microsoft_ljk_00001_srfc_pro6_i5_8gb.html
Costco $800 Surface Pro 6 i5/8GB/128GB bundle with non-Alcantara keyboard and pen
https://www.costco.com/New-Microsof...Surface-Pro-Type-Cover.product.100461836.html
Surface Pen is $72 on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Surface-Platinum-Model-EYU-00009/dp/B072K5TXGT
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That doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that Apple cripples the hardware and gives far less for the money payed.
The issue of software problems also varies dramatically based on the user. My mother can’t use an iPad any more easily than she could use a surface tablet. With increased functionality (full OS as opposed to mobile OS) the degree of complexity multiplies.
I personally don’t have any problem using windows - especially more recent versions. If you can’t troubleshoot software problems then that’s obviously an issue for you.
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A tricycle has less maintenance than a car but no one is going to use it as a daily commuter. Plus, people do more than watch Netflix and surf Facebook for work.
To be fair the iPad Pros are different because they’re actually very good for content creation with the Apple Pencil. With the 120hz versions the pencil is a pleasure to use and has almost no noticeable lag. I picked up a 2017 10.5” 256gb for $450 which I consider to be a great deal. That doesn’t mean I don’t wish it had more functionality and connectivity options though.