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because a pair of wired headphones half the price will sound twice as good, and not require charging

Exactly. And multiple headphones are strewn about at home & work, for ultra-convenience. And not all sound pulled from an iPad/iPhone is sent straight to one's ears, but instead info Pro Audio or the car or the old radio in the workroom... Obvious to some, but not obvious to enough.
 
If only they could release a phone with a squared edge like this again. :(
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Everyone is always whining about headphones jacks. Buy air pods, they’re the greatest thing apples made in many years by far. It’s been years since I used a headphone jack on an iPad anyways
I'd love to buy Airpods, but Apple's "one size fits all" theory for earphones doesn't work for me. I also find Apple earphones lesser quality than what I'm used to (which would only be worse over bluetooth). It isn't a compelling case to spend hundreds of dollars on them.
 
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because a pair of wired headphones half the price will sound twice as good, and not require charging

The downside for some people is that wireless headphones don’t work good when biking and often get caught up on things when I’m working.
 
Isn't it funny that everyone (including myself) would probably bitch if they removed the camera, but I am willing to bet that only an exceptionally small portion of consumers use the rear camera on an iPad for meaningful photography. "I want it because you just never know..." Meanwhile my camera roll has like 7 picture. 0 of which are meaningful.
 
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I'm thinking people are wrong about that vertical orientation for the smart connector. Nobody uses their iPad in vertical to type or do work and I can't imagine Apple doing this for the sake of not getting horizontal Face ID to work. They wouldn't set it up to be difficult to use for its purpose just to do Face ID...and horizontal Face ID seems more a software issue than hardware, so I don't get how they would just roll over and say "meh, we couldn't get the programming right so we just decided to completely redesign the hardware and innards at great expense and in a way that makes it unusable for 1/2 our customers."

No.
 
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This would be the best looking iPad yet. Reminds me of the most beautiful iPhone. iPhone 5s/SE
 
Not exactly edge-to-edge is it? And that protruding camera is a no-no! Not sure there is much point in upgrading really from my original iPad Pro
 
Don't know if I'm a fan of removing the home button (Touch ID) from the iPad. Face ID works fine (great) on my iPhone X. But the way I use my iPad Pro 12.9". Lifting it up, looking at it, and swiping up to unlock it is not natural. I unlock it now with my thumb when picking it up to move it. I do this with out even have to look at it.

Great point. It's not like Apple is the type of company that would put any thought into the usability of their devices.
 
How the hell can Apple not fix Face ID horizontal limitation with a simple software workaround? I'm stumped. This is a stupid issue.
I know, it sounds so easy.
I think they might in iOS 12.x for iPhone X.

This render suggests using the keyboard stops you charging your iPad! Two hour lunch breaks will become the norm.
 
Isn't it funny that everyone (including myself) would probably bitch if they removed the camera, but I am willing to bet that only an exceptionally small portion of consumers use the rear camera on an iPad for meaningful photography. "I want it because you just never know..." Meanwhile my camera roll has like 7 picture. 0 of which are meaningful.
I'm not positive, but fairly certain a good chunk of my 300+ iPad users use the camera regularly. We even had a guy modify the otterbox hard shell so the camera was usable with it stuck on the back. Our sales guys are responsible for setting up displays for which they can get bonuses and I'm sure they'd rather use the company provided device rather than their personal one. They also use them to capture documents using Microsoft Lens (or should be since I provided documentation on how to do so)
 
I'm not positive, but fairly certain a good chunk of my 300+ iPad users use the camera regularly. We even had a guy modify the otterbox hard shell so the camera was usable with it stuck on the back. Our sales guys are responsible for setting up displays for which they can get bonuses and I'm sure they'd rather use the company provided device rather than their personal one. They also use them to capture documents using Microsoft Lens (or should be since I provided documentation on how to do so)
I guess it's just me, then.
 
Everyone is always whining about headphones jacks. Buy air pods, they’re the greatest thing apples made in many years by far. It’s been years since I used a headphone jack on an iPad anyways

Except not everyone uses their ipad/iPhone solely for private listening. Having a universal 1/8" jack comes in handy in so many ways, professionally & personally. Options exist to purchase & tote around a separate Bluetooth receiver, I'm sure, with a 1/8" output jack, but that introduces a whole new level of complexity, with additional cost and then inconveniences of having to tote it around, charge it, store it. The "instant on" of plugging in a jack is valuable quite often, just like flicking a wall light switch is pretty great vs. spending 11-15 seconds accessing your LIFx wifi-controlled bulbs from an app...

Apple ignores more and more that their devices aren't used the same way by everyone...long gone are the days they advertised devices that could be used in myriads of ways by myriads of people... Having to fit a certain mold or usage style in order to best use their products may come back to bite them, time will tell.
 
Except not everyone uses their ipad/iPhone solely for private listening. Having a universal 1/8" jack comes in handy in so many ways, professionally & personally. Options exist to purchase & tote around a separate Bluetooth receiver, I'm sure, with a 1/8" output jack, but that introduces a whole new level of complexity, with additional cost and then inconveniences of having to tote it around, charge it, store it. The "instant on" of plugging in a jack is valuable quite often, just like flicking a wall light switch is pretty great vs. spending 11-15 seconds accessing your LIFx wifi-controlled bulbs from an app...

Apple ignores more and more that their devices aren't used the same way by everyone...long gone are the days they advertised devices that could be used in myriads of ways by myriads of people... Having to fit a certain mold or usage style in order to best use their products may come back to bite them, time will tell.
I can't wait until Apple removes it from the MacBook line. This forum is going to go nuts.
 
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I can't wait until Apple removes it from the MacBook line. This forum is going to go nuts.

Ha!

Maybe it will go for a short time, but by then, likely many of us passionate and vocal types will just leave Apple products, tired of being unwilling recipients in Apple’s remove-a/key/button/jack/port minimalism gone mad design contests, leaving behind those who are completely willing to adapt to whatever Apple throws at them.

Why keep paying up when the remaining plusses with Apple products over MSoft/PC’s no longer outweigh the negatives, as the special sauce that used to make Apple products so unique and fun and flexible to use is stripped away little by little over the past 5 years?
 
This might seem silly, but what if the area above the lightning connector isn’t a smart connector per se, but a spot to pair the Apple Pencil since the original way was risky and silly? Then what if the CAD, “leaked case” and renders got it wrong on the landscape smart connector cut out and it is staying where it is on the other side and that weird unlock/lock thing is just incorrect and is actually just the cellular eject port?
... just throwing that out there.


Kallum.
 
What you describe is a super small minority. I am not debating the usefulness of the headphone jack, but the amount of people actually using the headphone jack on an iPad day to day has to be a super small minority. I never use it myself, but I can understand that some people do see the benefit to it.

But that „minority“ is exactly the kind of users Apple is promoting the iPad Pro for! Next week my daughter wants to use her iPP for supplying the music to her birthday party. The iPad is connected to the amp over the headphone jack. If there is no headphone jack she needs an additional adapter and the party might be very short because recharging is no longer possible...The same goes for all the professional DJ‘s with mixing equipment over the headphone jack and so on....
 
Likely to make space for reconfigured internals. They seem to want the Smart Connector directly above the Lightning port. They will likely introduce a new smart keyboard case, which will create a quasi-laptop form factor. It's the only realistic explanation. Apple will not restrict the smart keyboard to portrait mode.
They might if they restrict FaceID to portrait only....
 
While I feel similarly about people in public taking pictures with iPads, I use the camera often to scan documents and deposit checks from the few clients that still prefer to mail them. Plus it is useful for FaceTime/video chatting.

Yeah, that is normal. I was referring to people holding it over their heads taking photos (usually tourists) and looking very out of place.
 
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