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Except that those older devices were replaced for a good reason. Here you are not acutely replacing anything , you are just moving the DAC from iPhone to heaphone , one gets slimmer the other bulkier. Had they replaced the heaphone jack with one 1/2 the size....sure
The DAC isn't moved, since it's still required for every sound that goes to built in speakers. There will be a second DAC in lightning headphones.
 
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it was a euphemism. by "cool" phone i meant "best selling popular phone that everyone and their mother had to have" until it was no longer the best selling, popular phone that everyone and their mother had to have. and the end came fast.

And for those of us who have been around long enough, you know how well that ended up working out for Motorola.
You mean because Apple only made $40b last quarter they "are doomed"?
 
I remember all the people who said they would leave when Apple dropped the PS2 keyboard and mouse ports ... and those people stayed with Apple. I remember all the people who said they would leave when Apple dropped the floppy drive ... and those people stayed with Apple. I remember all the people who said they would leave when Apple dropped the DVI ports ... and those people stayed with Apple. I remember all the people who said they would leave when Apple dropped the internal optical brick ... and those people stayed with Apple.

And so you join the crowd who buys into the potential logical fallacy: That prior results are ALWAYS a predictor of future sucess/failure. Its the very kind of thinking that burned so many people during the stock and housing bubbles.
I'm not necessarily predicting this time removing a feature will bite apple in the ass, but I'm tired of people who keep saying that because apple got away with it before they'll certainly get away with it this time.
 
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The DAC isn't moved, since it's still required for every sound that goes to built in speakers. There will be a second DAC in lightning headphones.

I'm aware of that. I was referring that the DAC for the heaphones will move. For the internal DAC, needed for the speakers, Apple will go from providing a quality DAC to a really cheap one, maximising profits. Traditional Apple has a always put in a quality DAC in an iPhone.
 
I used to think the iPhone SE was "special" for being a 5s Special Edition. Now I believe the iPhone 7 will be more special than the SE but won't get the love it deserves because it looks too similar to the iPhone 6 series. Ugly duckling. It might be like the Samsung Galaxy S5. Underappreciated and maligned simply by its exterior.

Forget what Forbes said of it looking similar to the 6. This is THE ONE to update to. Don't wait on 8! Likely a copycat of the S7 edge. Apple's last time using an aluminum back until 2020. The successor to the SE could be released at the same time as the iPhone 8 next year and look exactly like it or an elongated iPhone 4.

There is also no guarantee the iPhone 8 will be water-resistant. For all we know, they Apple brings back the headphone port and do what Samsung did last year. Flip flop. People bemoaned about the S5 design in 2014. The following year, Samsung chose fashion over function. Removed water-resist, sd slot, and removable for the S6. People still complained. They corrected two of the three omissions for S7 though.

For all we know, the iPhone 8 might NOT be water-resistant at all and the successor to the SE won't be too. Then they bring it back for the 8s to tick off more people in 2018. Remember, the LG G2 did not have an sd slot and removable battery. LG brought it back in 2014 and kept both features ever since. These companies can be unpredictable at what they do next.

The iPhone 7 will be like the SE for the iPhone 6 design. Don't be surprised if Apple calls it iPhone 6SE but I like if they call it iPhone 7 / 7 Plus / 7 Pro.. or just iPhone. The iPhone 7 is the most exciting iPhone release since the 4...
 
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I used to think the iPhone SE was "special" for being a 5s Special Edition. Now I believe the iPhone 7 will be more special than the SE but won't get the love it deserves because it looks too similar to the iPhone 6 series. Ugly duckling. It might be like the Samsung Galaxy S5. Underappreciated and maligned simply by its exterior.

Forget what Forbes said of it looking similar to the 6. This is THE ONE to update to. Don't wait on 8! Likely a copycat of the S7 edge. Apple's last time using an aluminum back until 2020. The successor to the SE could be released at the same time as the iPhone 8 next year and look exactly like it or an elongated iPhone 4.

There is also no guarantee the iPhone 8 will be water-resistant. For all we know, they Apple brings back the headphone port and do what Samsung did last year. Flip flop. People bemoaned about the S5 design in 2014. The following year, Samsung chose fashion over function. Removed water-resist, sd slot, and removable for the S6. People still complained. They corrected two of the three omissions for S7 though.

For all we know, the iPhone 8 might NOT be water-resistant at all and the successor to the SE won't be too. Then they bring it back for the 8s to tick off more people in 2018. Remember, the LG G2 did not have an sd slot and removable battery. LG brought it back in 2014 and kept both features ever since. These companies can be unpredictable at what they do next.

The iPhone 7 will be like the SE for the iPhone 6 design. Don't be surprised if Apple calls it iPhone 6SE but I like if they call it iPhone 7 / 7 Plus / 7 Pro.. or just iPhone. The iPhone 7 is the most exciting iPhone release since the 4...

I agree with the reverse of anything you're telling us here.
 
The iPhone 7 is going to be epic, judging from all the hubris. Like the 6s, the iPhone 7 will hit it out the park. This will not be a meh upgrade.

Have you seen or heard anything other than hubris to back that up though?

I have friends with the latest Samsung S7's and they're really good. Camera blows away my iPhone 6 but I'd hope the iP7 can match that based on the new "hump", in all other ways there is very little I can see lacking compared to iOS. Aside from that I'm not aware of anything but the removal of features/connections in the iP7, a marginally larger battery and the usual spec bump. Nothing that has leaked has indicated anything of interest really.
 
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The iPhone 7 is going to be epic, judging from all the hubris. Like the 6s, the iPhone 7 will hit it out the park. This will not be a meh upgrade.

Sarcasm, I presume?

No wait, I guess not, I just glanced at some of your other posts here.
Dang dude, you're not just drinking the coolaid, but you're using some powerfully spiked version of it! All together now: GO AAPL!!!!
 
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It could very well be that in early production stages (before mass-production of multi-million devices) a radical new design had to be called off due to serious problems.
Some blocking issue that would have stalled the whole roll-out may have forced them into this beaver scenario.
In my view, it then would be better to openly admit so as that would save Apple's overall image. Even if that would violate Apple's secrecy policy and its Board's infallible status.

If not so, I see a "Switch to Android"-like PR-disaster of massive proportions coming up...
 
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Apple, please tout the bottom speakers as "Stereo" speakers. I really hope you guys do that.
 
I must be the only one that loses headphones, and charges the phone at work while streaming music all day long, along with playing Contest of Champions killing the battery.

Because having my headphones have to use the lighting port and paying a fortune to replace them seems like a crap idea to me. o_O
 
With the markets at all time records, elections, and this flop coming, short big AAPL to make $$$$$$$
 
Sarcasm, I presume?

No wait, I guess not, I just glanced at some of your other posts here.
Dang dude, you're not just drinking the coolaid, but you're using some powerfully spiked version of it! All together now: GO AAPL!!!!
Exactly go AAPL. It seems there are two flavors here: kool-aid or bash. Are you the former or the latter.
 
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Have you seen or heard anything other than hubris to back that up though?

I have friends with the latest Samsung S7's and they're really good. Camera blows away my iPhone 6 but I'd hope the iP7 can match that based on the new "hump", in all other ways there is very little I can see lacking compared to iOS. Aside from that I'm not aware of anything but the removal of features/connections in the iP7, a marginally larger battery and the usual spec bump. Nothing that has leaked has indicated anything of interest really.
The 6s absolutely nailed it. It seems meh a year later, but it was an absolutely epic jump over the 6. I'm thinking the iphone 7 will be that same type of jump. In spite of what naysayers may think.

As far as the camera greenbot.com, an android site, has the most unbiased review of the cameras in the two models. Check it out.
 
I must be the only one that loses headphones, and charges the phone at work while streaming music all day long, along with playing Contest of Champions killing the battery.

Because having my headphones have to use the lighting port and paying a fortune to replace them seems like a crap idea to me. o_O

Yep, that's my concern as well...
I'll reserve my rant for when I actually use lightning earbuds and whatever solution Apple comes up with for charging while using the headphones.
So far, we cannot see it as a practical move. But alas, the answer is only weeks away.
 
it was a euphemism. by "cool" phone i meant "best selling popular phone that everyone and their mother had to have" until it was no longer the best selling, popular phone that everyone and their mother had to have. and the end came fast.

And for those of us who have been around long enough, you know how well that ended up working out for Motorola.
If Motorola is the pattern that Apple and Samsung have to follow, I wonder who will take their places.
 
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