New iPhone and iPod Touch Details? iPod to Get Camera?

TraceyS/FL said:
A camera is so NOT an incentive at all for me to consider an iPhone over a Touch. Not at all... i don't get that argument.

The basis for that decision - for me is:

1. do i want the monthly BILL that comes with a phone? How long term stable is my income level. 2 years ago when i got my current smartphone i never thought i'd be where i am today in that area. Locking into a high price for 2 years is a scary thought.

2. what carrier is it on? In my case AT&T would be a bad choice since everyone i call is on Verizon.

But it's NEVER been, hey, i'm getting the iPhone over the Touch because it has a camera. Of course, i rarely use the camera on my phone now...

Don't get me wrong, i'd love to see a camera added, but in today's economy Apple wants units sold, so there can be Apps bought. The addition of the camera might help increase Touch sales, and allow some people to not break their budgets by entering a contract for 2 years.

I hope it's true - i just wish it wasn't a September thing.
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Exactly. The iPod touch and the iPhone are two different beasts. One is a phone (it's key feature) and one is a media player.

I knew that once the steam from the iPod touch runs out that Apple will add a camera. Imagine, a Photo Booth type app; kids would love taking pictures and add effects (in fact, I know I have spent hours messing with my iSight and effects and I'm 22).

Although, I don't think feel like Apple will add a camera next update; it would make more sense maybe in 2 updates from now.
 
I do wish my current Touch had a camera :(

It would be amazing if the next iPhone shared the Touch's form factor though. My friends' iPhones feel quite large in comparison. Either way, I;m going to make the jump to iPhone whenever the new one comes out.
 
liveccam said:
Its always nice to see the Touch improved upon. I bought it specifically to use as a PDA on wifi and it hasn't been a disappointment. The Iphone and it's insane monthly charges for cellular and data access just isn't worth the price or the hassle of the contract. With many great apps unusable over 3G anyway, why bother? I can't wait to see a Touch with a faster CPU, more memory, and perhaps a camera.
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I really don't get where you're claiming 'insane' data rates. I'm not paying any more now than I was with my old non-iPhone unit from AT&T/Cingular and that was WELL below $100.
 
qbricc said:
Why is it that when ever the iPod touch is rumored to get a feature which is the same as the iphone that people always comments on this damaging profit for Apple. It is the phone companies which want you to choose the iphone over the touch. I'm sure that Apple profit both ways.

Bring on data plans and cameras for the ipod touch.
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As long as an ipod touch doesnt have 3G capability and the ability to make a phone call..you can give it all of the other iphone features and you wont have to fear about people choosing an ipod over iphone.

If you want an iphone you wont go...hmmm ipod touch has a camera too..let me get that...and then get another phone to go with it....that makes no sense...
 
Didn't thought the 2nd generation of the iPod Touch was worth upgrading to. If the new iPod Touch really gets a camera, I'd buy it! <3
 
Small White Car said:
Yeah, you're thinking like AT&T. But they don't have any say in this.

I don't think Apple really cares if you buy an iPhone or an iPod, as long as you pick one of the two.
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You're right. But doesn't Apple see any profit from the data plan?

jamesryanbell said:
Not trying to be a jerk but i'm a grammar nazi, so please put up with me. :eek:

"Irregardless" doesn't make sense. It would be "regardless".
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I'll keep that in mind next time I need to use regardless/ irregardless.
 
Unspoken Demise said:
However, why would they add a camera to the iPod Touch. Yes, it would be nice, but you dont want to give to many similarities between the iPhone and iPod Touch. Then what would be the incentive to get an iPhone, if your iPod Touch can do almost all the things an iPhone can do? It doesn't seem like a good move from a business stand point, but its great for consumers.
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The iphone would still have the capability of using 3g or edge, while the ipod touch won't be able to access this.

That is the reason why my brother wants an iphone just so that he can go on the internet. His daughter has an ipod touch while he likes it he does not like the fact that it can only be used with a wifi connection. Correct?
 
Great feature

I have the first generation itouch (free with computer purchase) and I love it. I treat it as a PDA and never leave home without it. One thing that I must admit is all of the features are great but it leaves me wanting a connection 24/7. Thus I will be buying the new iphone. My wife loves my itouch so much she will be buying the new iphone. I wonder how many people will use the itouch and love it and then want more and step up and buy the iphone? Man apple knows how to take your money!!!
 
Not changing the shape explains why we haven't heard anything about new cases etc showing different shape. I'd imagine it then means that we'll see colored iPhones, to differentiate the new ones.

Could Apple have been able to have been more secretive about the new iPhone's innards, by keeping the shape the same?
 
Shiner said:
I have the first generation itouch (free with computer purchase) and I love it. I treat it as a PDA and never leave home without it. One thing that I must admit is all of the features are great but it leaves me wanting a connection 24/7. Thus I will be buying the new iphone. My wife loves my itouch so much she will be buying the new iphone. I wonder how many people will use the itouch and love it and then want more and step up and buy the iphone? Man apple knows how to take your money!!!
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Here's what you do. Go to millenicom.com and get yourself a 3G USB
modem and their monthly data plan at $59.95 a month with no data caps, no taxes, no contract, and no cancellation fee. Then get a portable router and use your Touch and all of your other wireless devices on that for one monthly price. No I don't work for Millenicom and haven't done this yet but I'm thinking seriously about it. Put the 3G modem/router in the car, let the kids surf the net, and let my Touch work on 3G from anywhere.
 
Maybe they won't change the shape and design... that doesn't exclude that Apple might change the material they use to make it!

Metal, I want mettaallll
 
I was kinda hoping for a different size and shape. It's the old "I get a new phone every two years itch." But if it's the same shape it better be full of goodies!
 
ChiChi said:
Didn't thought the 2nd generation of the iPod Touch was worth upgrading to. If the new iPod Touch really gets a camera, I'd buy it! <3
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I'll echo that!

Twitter and Facebook become much more useful with that. The speaker wasn't all that compelling to upgrade...but add in the camera and I'll be trading in my 1st Gen 8GB for a 3rd Gen immediately!
 
Unspoken Demise said:
... but you dont want to give to many similarities between the iPhone and iPod Touch. Then what would be the incentive to get an iPhone, if your iPod Touch can do almost all the things an iPhone can do? It doesn't seem like a good move from a business stand point, but its great for consumers.
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I was yearning for an "iPhone without the phone" from day one, and think that the success of the touch took even Apple by suprise.
touch is no longer the red-haired stepchild and the 'phoneless' part of the family may ultimately usurp the iPhone itself.
I'm on my 2nd touch (bough a gen2 after my gen1 got stolen) and if they release with a camera I'll be upgrading and passing my current one to my daughter or wife.
 
In reference to all the iPod touch vs. iPhone stuff, I don't think a camera is going to make people buy an iPod touch instead of an iPhone. The cost of service and/or tie to AT&T is what will keep most from getting an iPhone.

I think it would be a neat addition for iPod touch users. The camera just needs to be better than most cell phone cameras to make a difference since iPod touch owners will likely also have a cell phone.

As for "Project Charlie," does this mean the new devices come preloaded with music by Drive Shaft?
 
The MAJOR differentiating feature between the iPhone and the iPod Touch is not the phone (that comes for "free"), but the data plan that comes with iPhones. Any app that uses the Internet instantly becomes more useable on the iPhone because you don't have to go looking around for a WiFi hotspot feeling frustrated. You can also use the app in the car.

I remember I had the original iPhone for about 7 months on T-Mobile (unlocked myself) but my parents didn't let me get the $6 data plan to use EDGE. I always felt miserable if I wasn't in an area with a WiFi network.

Believe me, even if the iPod Touch had complete feature parity with the iPhone, that glaring difference still exists with the lack of always on internet.
 
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