New iPhone Rumors Reiterate Claims of Smaller Dock Connector, No Change to Screen Aspect Ratio

I am on my 4th iPhone now, never cracked but did get the first one scratched up a bit after hitting the concrete of my stairs, poor thing fell down the stairs. :eek:

I have seen online cracked iPhone and I have to wonder what could these people be doing to put that much force and damage to an iPhone or for that matter any phone.

I normally don't tend to smash the door of my car with enough force to dent the hell out of it so why do people smash their phones just to put them online just to rag on Apple.

Lets all throw our Air out of a 20 foot window and then have a truck drive over them, hey look its all dented and smashed "apple product suck because... bla bla bla. :rolleyes:

**disappointed Picard**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbTO5VM6s-4

http://www.5min.com/Video/Samsung-an...reen-501914979
 
iphone is totally due for a radical redesign I am suprised the device has looked relatively the for 5 years now.

The smaller dock makes no sense, the next dock change won't be for years and when it changes it will probably be removed all together and changed to wireless.

Would be nice to see the ipods get some updates this year too, especially the ipod touch.
 
Seriously Apple, its 2012, will be nearly 2013 once the new iPhone is release. Its really ridiculous to have a 3.5" or 3.7" screen now a days. I am still going to buy it, but damn, that irks me. Has Johnny been thinking these last couple years?


If keeping up means increasing the size of the iphone screen, then I guess in the year 2060 we'll have 14-inch phone screens. Where does it end? When is it enough?

But seriously... what exactly is a 4 inch screen going to give you that the 3.5 doesn't, besides being clumsier to handle with a single hand?
 
If keeping up means increasing the size of the iphone screen, then I guess in the year 2060 we'll have 14-inch phone screens.

But seriously... what exactly is a 4 inch screen going to give you that the 3.5 doesn't, besides being clumsier to handle with a single hand?

The market is clearly moving in a bigger screen direction and Apple needs to do some remodeling, the front has been the same game since its introduction its getting stale.

Internet on the go is only growing and the 3.5 inch screen is a joke for internet browsing, heck 4 isn't much better but it'd be an improvement. Sides .5 inches won't make single handed navigation any worse.

That's just my opinion.
 
I've said now for a year that Apple won't change screens until they jump to AMOLED, and they don't think AMOLED is ready for them yet. And the reasons are probably very obvious:

Burn in.

Until they come up with a good solution, don't expect a new screen.
 
More rumors...............and nobody really knows!

But if and thats a big if , Apple sticks with the Iphone4 & 4S design for the Iphone5 many people will loose faith.
 
The market is clearly moving in a bigger screen direction and Apple needs to do some remodeling, the front has been the same game since its introduction its getting stale.

Internet on the go is only growing and the 3.5 inch screen is a joke for internet browsing, heck 4 isn't much better but it'd be an improvement. Sides .5 inches won't make single handed navigation any worse.

That's just my opinion.

In the last 3 months Apple picked up 43% of the market, whereas Android picked up 48%. So, first, the market isn't stale for Apple. Second, not every Android is a 4"+ phone, so clearly again the market for smaller screens is anything but stale.
 
Thunderbolt is not designed to fill the role of USB. It's made to cover the niche market of high speed data transferring such as external SDD's, HDD's, external GPU's/Apple Cinema Display and other things of that nature.

You know... I transfer stuff to and from my iPhone a lot... Just saying.
TB WOULD be an improvement and who says you'd connect it directly if you already use your port(s)?
Daisy chain! The beauty of TB.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
4"-4.3" or bust. All of you small screen enthusiasts can keep buying the 4S.
I will sit it out AGAIN just like I did with the 4S if the screen size doesn't change.
 
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would actually prefer a 3.5" screen vs a 4-4.3"... What kind of tiny hands/pockets do you have that can't handle a 1/4" wider phone? Tell the truth, you guys probably order off the kids menu too don't ya!
 
Seriously Apple, its 2012, will be nearly 2013 once the new iPhone is release. Its really ridiculous to have a 3.5" or 3.7" screen now a days. I am still going to buy it, but damn, that irks me. Has Johnny been thinking these last couple years?

Eh? The device is a mobile phone remember that.
 
It'd be nice to see, if they do update the dock size, that they make their connectors and cables out of more durable material. The plastic ends on the connectors don't signify 'quality' to me, and now that we're speculating they change the size of the port, the white plastic should go.

I'd take anodized aluminum, or shoot...polished, molded scrap metal. Anything better than plastic.
 
Good question, but have you even considered it carefully, or are you just raising it rhetorically? Apple has stated why it is opposed to fragmenting the iOS environment with too many options. It places an unreasonable burden on developpers, and that is a sure way to dilute the quality of Apps that will be released to the platform. So the real question is this: is the slight increase in size worth the effort and risk it presents? Do you have a serious answer to this question?

What risk? They have demonstrated time and time again that they are not adverse to making the developers jump through a new hoop. They went from low res to high res and that required work on developers part. I've read bits that have said that if Apple used a certain ratio, that the developers really wouldn't have to do anything at all. And if rumors are to be believed, they are going the opposite direct with the iPad. So again, what risk? Do you expect the size of this device to NEVER change? Not even 5, 10, 15 years out? Even the most die-hard fan will get tired of buying the same product over and over. Again, small speed bumps just won't be enough. There's got to be something more dramatic, and it can't just be software either.
 
Why re-design the dock connector? Making a smaller dock connector will ruin this.

Making smaller parts such as the dock connector and smaller volume buttons and smaller home button will give the illusion of a 4.5" screen versus the current size of 3.5"! ;):D:apple:
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I really dislike how large some of these new phones are. The iPhone is about the max I would even want for a device. And I hope they don't taper the edges. I love propping my 4S on its side. A table makes a perfect tripod for a photo or video.
 
iPhone definitely needs a new design both externally and internally. A minimum of a 4 inch screen is needed. I had a play on the Galaxy Note and in my eyes that was still pocket friendly. The iOS UI also needs a drastic overhaul as the grid icons are looking very old. The Android UI is great with its widgets and more modern feel. In terms of internal hardware the new Galaxy S3 destroys the iPhone, albeit it does look bloody ugly. The only thing keeping me buying iPhones at the moment is the fact I've spent a lot of money on hundreds of apps.

Apple are really annoying these days taking way too long to release new products. I mean their entire mac range is looking very stale. I'm waiting to buy a new desktop and laptop but they are taking their time releasing the new line.

I think they should release mac updates every 6 months. Stop all this secretive hype and just announce the products. Ive got tired of all this guesswork and rumours.

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yeah, i remember when it meant something to be a mac owner, part of a special club...started with Apple II, etc.

Now every douchebag and their mother has an iPad, iphone, and macbook pro....

Totally agree! Everywhere I look I see Apple products now. It no longer has that special feel. When I first started buying Apple everybody questioned my decision and when I bought the original iphone at launch back in 2007 they laughed and berated the phone. Now every one of those people has an iPhone and iPad.

With this new popularity their quality control on all products has also drastically fallen. Every product I buy now has to be returned at least 4 times before they send me one without a yellow screen or dodgy buzzing noises coming off it.
 
I've owned every iPhone released so far. If Apple does away with the current dock connector I won't be buying the next iPhone. Both of my cars are iPhone compatible and one of them is via a custom cradle install. Ditto several iPhone docks around the house.

Mark
 
What risk? They have demonstrated time and time again that they are not adverse to making the developers jump through a new hoop. They went from low res to high res and that required work on developers part.

Yes but that is different, and I'll explain why in a moment.

I've read bits that have said that if Apple used a certain ratio, that the developers really wouldn't have to do anything at all.

Here's why I don't think that would be smart. Let's take an analogous situation. Think back to 4:3 TVs. When widescreen DVDs were released, you had one of two things happening on your TV screen. Either the DVD player would distort the image by squishing it into the screen or the DVD player would have to display the image with two horizontal black bars above and below the image. Similarly, when you try to display a 4:3 image on a 16:9 or 16:10 screen, either you need to squash the image, or you need to display two vertical black bars on the left and right of the image. The only other possibility in either of these circumstances is to cut up, or blow up, the image to fit the screen. Neither of these scenarios yields an optimal and elegant result. They are all terrible and ugly. The moral is: You don't want to force the native resolution of one screen onto another screen with a different native resolution that isn't optimally suited for the first screen's resolution. That strikes me as a non-starter and I don't think Apple would ever allow such a thing. If you can point to precedent showing otherwise, I'll happily retract my claim.

So where does that leave us? Well, that would mean each app would have to be designed, in its layout, for each display. That introduces a lot of fragmentation into the iOS environment. Tweaking the layout is very different from simply quadrupling the resolution of the images yet keeping the same layout. That is precisely why the work done to go from low-res to high res was small and pale in comparison to having to design software for 3.5" iPhones and design software for all other sizes at the same time. The same reasoning applies to iPad and the rumored 7" mini iPad.

Do you expect the size of this device to NEVER change? Not even 5, 10, 15 years out? Even the most die-hard fan will get tired of buying the same product over and over. Again, small speed bumps just won't be enough. There's got to be something more dramatic, and it can't just be software either.

Let's not engage in hyperbole shall we? First off, you can keep the same screen size and introduce plenty of other hardware and software enhancements to attract customers, so claiming only speed bumps are what lies ahead is a gross distortion. Now, you raise a good question, can we expect the same size Apple phones for the next 5, 10, 15 years? I don't know, and I'll say probably not. But this is pure conjecture, and I think Apple will only make the transition when it is clear to them they can make a better phone in a new size. That day may be this Fall, when they release the new iPhone, but so far as I can tell, right now, there isn't any advantage to these bigger screens as far as making a better phone is concerned. The downsides outweigh the pros. When the scale turns, things may be different.

I think Apple will avoid fragmentation as much as possible, so the question is, would they rather have only a 4.x" iPhone, or only a 3.5" iPhone? A few people probably would rather the 4.x", but I'm willing to bet a sizable portion of the public is still happy with a 3.5" iPhone, and would be happier still with an even smaller, lighter, and thinner phone. So long as sales still far outpace production of the phones, I think we aren't likely to see a change in the size of the screen.

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Making smaller parts such as the dock connector and smaller volume buttons and smaller home button will give the illusion of a 4.5" screen versus the current size of 3.5"! ;):D:apple:
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Exactly! I think they will keep trying to trim the overall size of the phone, without changing the screen size. There is a lot of room that can be trimmed away from the top and bottom bezel surrounding the screen. There have already been rumors of a smaller home button, so I expect the phone to shrink vertically.
 
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Please, don't do this. So many accessories will be rendered useless.

What's so bad about the current connector anyway?
 
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