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iPhone definitely needs a new design both externally and internally. A minimum of a 4 inch screen is needed. I had a play on the Galaxy Note and in my eyes that was still pocket friendly. The iOS UI also needs a drastic overhaul as the grid icons are looking very old. The Android UI is great with its widgets and more modern feel. In terms of internal hardware the new Galaxy S3 destroys the iPhone, albeit it does look bloody ugly. The only thing keeping me buying iPhones at the moment is the fact I've spent a lot of money on hundreds of apps.
Apple are really annoying these days taking way too long to release new products. I mean their entire mac range is looking very stale. I'm waiting to buy a new desktop and laptop but they are taking their time releasing the new line.

I think they should release mac updates every 6 months. Stop all this secretive hype and just announce the products. Ive got tired of all this guesswork and rumours.

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Totally agree! Everywhere I look I see Apple products now. It no longer has that special feel. When I first started buying Apple everybody questioned my decision and when I bought the original iphone at launch back in 2007 they laughed and berated the phone. Now every one of those people has an iPhone and iPad.

With this new popularity their quality control on all products has also drastically fallen. Every product I buy now has to be returned at least 4 times before they send me one without a yellow screen or dodgy buzzing noises coming off it.

What you are expecting out of an iPhone will never be. Apple's simplicity is what makes the iPhone so beautiful. I want something simple that lets me do what I need to do as quickly as possible not something I have to run through numerous settings and wait 6 months for an upgrade. I highly suggest you switch to android cause you are 10000% not going to get anything like that out of iOS. wow your entire paragraph goes against everything that Apple and the iPhone is about. Yes the S3 blows everything away with its hardware and it will most definitely be more powerful than the next iPhone BUT I guarantee after the first few months you will start to see it slow down. Apples integration of the hardware and software is FARR superior than any other handset maker out there making the their underpowered hardware always run smoothly.


Apple's releases don't have anything to do with when Apple wants it. Even if Apple wanted to release Mac refreshes every 2 months they wouldn't not be able to because of the availability of updates. What exactly are you hoping for them to update in their iMac line?

You want apple to release something faster than an i7 that does not exists? Since when did buying a product become about the looks rather than function. You sound just like one of those first year university students that buy Apple products because that look nice.
 
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Apple is trying to save as much space as possible. Nano-SIM, smaller dock connector, likely smaller other components. Either thinner device, or bigger battery is the goal.
 
The market is clearly moving in a bigger screen direction and Apple needs to do some remodeling, the front has been the same game since its introduction its getting stale.

Internet on the go is only growing and the 3.5 inch screen is a joke for internet browsing, heck 4 isn't much better but it'd be an improvement. Sides .5 inches won't make single handed navigation any worse.

That's just my opinion.

You want internet on the go with a screen bigger than 3.5"? The answer is simple. Get an iPad with 3G capability.

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Yes but that is different, and I'll explain why in a moment.



Here's why I don't think that would be smart. Let's take an analogous situation. Think back to 4:3 TVs. When widescreen DVDs were released, you had one of two things happening on your TV screen. Either the DVD player would distort the image by squishing it into the screen or the DVD player would have to display the image with two horizontal black bars above and below the image. Similarly, when you try to display a 4:3 image on a 16:9 or 16:10 screen, either you need to squash the image, or you need to display two vertical black bars on the left and right of the image. The only other possibility in either of these circumstances is to cut up, or blow up, the image to fit the screen. Neither of these scenarios yields an optimal and elegant result. They are all terrible and ugly. The moral is: You don't want to force the native resolution of one screen onto another screen with a different native resolution that isn't optimally suited for the first screen's resolution. That strikes me as a non-starter and I don't think Apple would ever allow such a thing. If you can point to precedent showing otherwise, I'll happily retract my claim.

So where does that leave us? Well, that would mean each app would have to be designed, in its layout, for each display. That introduces a lot of fragmentation into the iOS environment. Tweaking the layout is very different from simply quadrupling the resolution of the images yet keeping the same layout. That is precisely why the work done to go from low-res to high res was small and pale in comparison to having to design software for 3.5" iPhones and design software for all other sizes at the same time. The same reasoning applies to iPad and the rumored 7" mini iPad.



Let's not engage in hyperbole shall we? First off, you can keep the same screen size and introduce plenty of other hardware and software enhancements to attract customers, so claiming only speed bumps are what lies ahead is a gross distortion. Now, you raise a good question, can we expect the same size Apple phones for the next 5, 10, 15 years? I don't know, and I'll say probably not. But this is pure conjecture, and I think Apple will only make the transition when it is clear to them they can make a better phone in a new size. That day may be this Fall, when they release the new iPhone, but so far as I can tell, right now, there isn't any advantage to these bigger screens as far as making a better phone is concerned. The downsides outweigh the pros. When the scale turns, things may be different.

I think Apple will avoid fragmentation as much as possible, so the question is, would they rather have only a 4.x" iPhone, or only a 3.5" iPhone? A few people probably would rather the 4.x", but I'm willing to bet a sizable portion of the public is still happy with a 3.5" iPhone, and would be happier still with an even smaller, lighter, and thinner phone. So long as sales still far outpace production of the phones, I think we aren't likely to see a change in the size of the screen.

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Exactly! I think they will keep trying to trim the overall size of the phone, without changing the screen size. There is a lot of room that can be trimmed away from the top and bottom bezel surrounding the screen. There have already been rumors of a smaller home button, so I expect the phone to shrink vertically.

"A few people probably would rather the 4.x", but I'm willing to bet a sizable portion of the public is still happy with a 3.5" iPhone, and would be happier still with an even smaller, lighter, and thinner phone."

This is the general direction I see Apple going with the next iPhone - smaller, thinner, lighter. I can live with that.
 
Well, that would obsolete a lot of very expensive docking devices like speaker systems which can run into the hundreds of dollars. I for one would not be happy, but I really do not see this happening. The Apple connector standard is now ubiquitous in the market from speakers to cars. I just don't see it happening. There is no benefit to Apple and it would slow adoption through upgrade.

You surely don't have a clue.

Just a quick photoshop and I came up with this.
Cheap old to new converters, and Apple could easily sell them for not a lot of money.

roadbloc said:
Why re-design the dock connector? One thing I like about Apple products is their consistency. How I can use the same dock/charger for my old iPod Classic and new iPhone. Making a smaller dock connector will ruin this.

No it won't.

Cinch said:
Adapters. I have SoundFreaq, less expensive than most, and I not once use the dock. Bluetooth and AirPlay will be more than adequate.

You got it.

Anthony11 said:
And you're just too darned precious to use the adapter that would obviously be available?

Apple is just doing that.
 

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Again, like I have said before. I won't mind the same look or even 3.5 inch. I already have enough trouble fitting the iPhone sometimes. But, I'd really like to see some fundamental improvement, battery life up to several days of heavy usage, robust structure/screen, LTE. Something that would really WOW the community once again. I hope Apple doesn't fall into the usual tech trend of bigger screen, more speed and more memory....do something cool.

Please don't give me those "If Apple makes the phone too robust (or well) then nobody is going to bother to get a new one". Most people sign two-year contracts anyways and get new phones for around $200. Also, I don't think people these days have problem putting down $500+ and get the none contract iPhone.


Thing is, none of the three things you mentioned would really 'WOW' anyone. Battery lasting longer would be great, but the phone's pretty robust as it is and LTE still isn't implemented in 80-90% of countries.
 
Personally, I don't care what they change.
I update my iPhone OTA. Whilst listening to my music over AirPlay. (Which I think Apple would like us to do anyway).

So if it using a different/smaller dock connector to either allow more battery life, or faster charging speeds, then I'm all for it!!
 
Wasn't there something that said Steve Jobs had approved the design of the next iPhone before he passed away last year?

I believe they had a pipeline for the next design as far back as then - by this stage in the release cycle, it will be tweaking and preparing the manufacturing process, surely?! (Thats presuming it will be released in the autumn)
 
A dock connector that worked like the MagSafe connector on the laptops would be fantastic! I mean, why are we dealing with those ridiculous pin connectors in 2012? Are you kidding? Let the magnets line up and make the connection! Thunderbolt on the other side would be pretty cool too.
 
hey what do ya know.. More iphone posts/ news.

Great. Yet AGAIN another dud week for mac news

It just means the Mac group are better at keeping secrets.

Which means a nicer surprise for all of us.

No one has leaked a single new component from a new MacBook Pro. And they are due very soon now, likely before the next iPhone.
 
I guess some people on here wants Apple to stay at 3.5" forever. So much for the iPhone screen ever being magical again. The fact that we are seeing bigger screen phones that can match the screen quality of a smaller screen iPhone says a lot about the progress others have made. For the people wanting another 3.5", they may as well keep the same design and upgrade the internals. However, whether you like it or not, it's doubtful the next iPhone will be 3.5". So keep your precious iPhone 4s. All it's going to take is for Apple to introduce a 4" screen, and the 3.5" fans will think it was the best screen size ever. :rolleyes:
 
Why re-design the dock connector? One thing I like about Apple products is their consistency. How I can use the same dock/charger for my old iPod Classic and new iPhone. Making a smaller dock connector will ruin this.

Personally I'd be pretty p*d off. There would have to be a REALLY compelling reason
 
I guess some people on here wants Apple to stay at 3.5" forever. So much for the iPhone screen ever being magical again. The fact that we are seeing bigger screen phones that can match the screen quality of a smaller screen iPhone says a lot about the progress others have made. For the people wanting another 3.5", they may as well keep the same design and upgrade the internals. However, whether you like it or not, it's doubtful the next iPhone will be 3.5". So keep your precious iPhone 4s. All it's going to take is for Apple to introduce a 4" screen, and the 3.5" fans will think it was the best screen size ever. :rolleyes:

In a perfect world Apple would make every size, shape, and color we could imagine, with all the hardware included within it customizable. Those who want HD cameras in front and back, with 10megapixels and 256gbs of flash and 2 gb of ram, would get it, those who wanted a minimal device would get it too. In that world all the Apps would be beautiful, fast, and always being updated by the developers. But here is the thing, that isn't our world. I don't think anyone disputes that bigger phones would be nice for some people, what we are saying is (1) we don't think Apple will do it, and here is why, and (2) we might not prefer the big screens to replace the smaller ones if it comes to choosing between one or the other.

I don't understand why so many of you insist on turning every discussion into a fanboy vs everyone else type of interchange.
 
I see the current iPhone like the Porsche 911, the design will be tweaked but remain the same, Why change when its perfect.

Good point, I think the same. :) And Apple is not a company which changes the designs of its products just because some people may find the old one "boring". That's something what I love in Apple. You have the feeling that they always really want to make a superior, sophisticated design which lasts for ages, and you don't always have the feeling that your "old" gadget is **** now, just because here's the new one. Even if there's a redesign every now and then, at least some key shapes, forms stay the same.

The iPhone 4 is gorgeous and with a little refinement the design would serve perfectly for the next-gen iPhone too. But actually it's not a problem if the new iPhone will look different, the iPhone 4 remains beautiful forever like the iMac G4. :cool:
 
I'm not liking any of this (except smaller dock connector), it doesn't sound like the revolutionary :apple: company I'm used to buy products from..
 
In a perfect world Apple would make every size, shape, and color we could imagine, with all the hardware included within it customizable. Those who want HD cameras in front and back, with 10megapixels and 256gbs of flash and 2 gb of ram, would get it, those who wanted a minimal device would get it too. In that world all the Apps would be beautiful, fast, and always being updated by the developers. But here is the thing, that isn't our world. I don't think anyone disputes that bigger phones would be nice for some people, what we are saying is (1) we don't think Apple will do it, and here is why, and (2) we might not prefer the big screens to replace the smaller ones if it comes to choosing between one or the other.

I don't understand why so many of you insist on turning every discussion into a fanboy vs everyone else type of interchange.

Change has to come sooner or later. You may not like it, but you will learn to.
 
So, so far it seems like the new iPhone will offer little, except worse mapping and an incompatible dock connector (and no, adaptors are a horrible solution).

Super.

Lets hope there is good news to come.
 
I'm hoping that they will get rid of the of the dock connector port entirely and have wireless charging. With iCloud, iTunes wifi sync and Airplay you really don't need a cable - and the cable is too short too as mentioned earlier.

I find the most annoying this is when I'm charging my iPhone having to run over to the wall plug to check messages and emails. Would be far easier to pick it up from from a charging mat bang out a reply and place it back down. Would it free up space inside the phone too for a larger battery?
 
I really hate the move to a smaller dock connector -- because now all my cradles, car adapters, etc are useless and I doubt we'll see an adapter significantly small enough. I've got cradles at my desk, on my nightstand, in my cars, at work, built in to boomboxes -- all will be useless.

And I have to admit, sometimes a bigger screen would be nice.
 
I see the current iPhone like the Porsche 911, the design will be tweaked but remain the same, Why change when its perfect.

cuz its getting boring. im not gonna buy the same phone 3 times. thats like buying the same porsche three times.

i need something fresh after a while. things get boring, the only reason i upgraded from my black 4 to the 4S was wanting a white iPhone for a change
 
Basic of What I'd Like

•Magnetic Connector like MagSafe on MBP/MBA
•Smaller dock to = Larger Speakers
•Body design to stay same size screen increased across whole iPhone surface
•128GB
•1GHz Quad
•4G
 
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