Not everyone can carry a brick.
We're in a services-industry environment where the current SE is already borderline too big, i.e. always getting caught on stuff when you're using a belt clip.
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New iPhone SE Considered 'Unlikely to Launch' in 2024
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Not everyone can carry a brick.
We're in a services-industry environment where the current SE is already borderline too big, i.e. always getting caught on stuff when you're using a belt clip.
Yeah, keeping the 13 mini would make more sense than keeping the 13 in the lineup with basically its clone, the iPhone 14.
By discontinued, I was referring to it no longer continuing to be part of the latest iPhone model lineup i.e., there was no iPhone 14 mini.
The Mini and the SE/8/7/6 are nearly the same size, which is why it invites comparison (in fact the mini is smaller while having a bigger screen). They represent the smallest phones in the iPhone lineup, with the Mini not getting refreshed and the rumor of a bigger SE next is it any wonder people are hoping the next SE will reuse the mini chassis instead? If they make the SE bigger and completely ditch the mini there wont be any more small phones in the lineup
Sad to hear it is delayed. Wonder how much Apple will price the next version.
Those might actually be the biggest problem, but damn those aren't very big problems. We used home buttons for over a decade, I'm fine with one device in my house still using it. And personally, I've never noticed in any negative way the forehead or chin on a device. That stuff never bothered me at all. And I might actually like larger bezels on a hand held device or at worst, call it a bit of a wash.
The SE and mini do invite comparisons from a size standpoint but not much else. The question is, what is the biggest selling point of the current SE? Price? Size? Touch ID? I'm guessing price is what drives people to buy SE phones much more than size, otherwise the mini would've sold better versus the regular and Max phones. As such, Apple appears to be looking to make the next SE a larger phone while trying to keep it "value" priced.
Because TouchID is more reliable than FaceID. It works every time, from every angle, without having to look at it. I see people with FaceID iPhones having to type their passcode so many times because it just doesn't work the first time.
Especially when using it for Apple Pay it just looks stupid having to point it to your face before you can pay with it. My thumb is already on the home button to invoke Wallet, so no need to look at my phone, I can just hold it next to the terminal right away.
And, there's a whole group of people over a certain age (like my parents) that really like a home button. It's just easier to explain. I've tried explaining the swipe gestures to my dad but he's just too slow (every time he wants to quit an app he inadvertently opens the app switcher).
I'm very happy with my SE. But an iPhone mini with TouchID in the power button could also do it for me. (Just no FaceID for me... only on a Mac that would make sense)
This is why I think Apple has decided to go with the iPhone 13 mini case design for the next iPhone SE. A model that will lack Face ID (but with Touch ID on an enlarged power button) and only a single camera sensor in the rear.
Exactly the reason I just bought an SE; was a toss up between it and a refurbished iPhone 11.
The only OLED iPhone I've used that doesn't give me headaches immediately is the iPhone 14 Pro Max, and I'm not spending that for a phone.
My SE 3 is treating me well. The only OLED phone I have owned was the Samsung Galaxy S10e. It is a great phone for numerous reasons. When I bought it 3 or 4 years ago I had never heard of PWM. The S10e certainly did not give me any eye or headache issues but since then I have bought an iPhone 13 mini and sold it after a weekend of it burning my eyes. I am very hesitant to get a Galaxy S22 or S23 as I read that the PWM is bad on those. So my SE 3 is it for the foreseeable future. I love its size as well.
I'm still kinda hoping they'll do it as an "alternating year" type thing so we'll get a new mini every 2-3 years, keeping one always in the lineup but at a slower update cadence, if they dont move the SE to the form factor
Here's the thing about the Mini – you can go on iPhone.com today and buy it, new, for $599; and easily get 5-6 years of use out of it. The model is technically a year old, but has the same processor as the current model! (I'm using a phone released in 2017, and only this fall is it losing support for new versions of iOS).
I think that ship has sailed. With previous SEs they took iPhones that were still in production (5s, 8 and SE2), changed out a couple parts, tweaked the colors and released it as the new SE. If they were going to do this with the 11 they would've done it last year when the 11 was still in production, and the SE3 would've been an updated 11, rather than the 3rd iteration of the 8 that we got.
We'll see what Apple does. There definitely wasn't value in keeping two minis in the lineup, but I could see them dropping the 12 & 13 in the fall and keeping the 13 Mini, 14 and 14 Plus along with the new 15 series iPhones.
Depending on the carrier the phone will remain locked to their network for 6 months or 12 months. If you keep continuous uninterrupted service for 6 months (some companies) or 12 months (others) the device becomes automatically unlocked. I’ve unlocked 3 iPhone 11’s this way paying only $99 for each one. You could always take the phone and leave the next day if you wanted to, but it’d be locked to their network for service so you’d only have a Wi-Fi iPhone.
I think that there is a place for the iPhone 6 design - especially for seniors, who don't want to learn a new UI.
But at this point in time, I'm not sure who the iPhone SE is actually for.
If it is for seniors, an iPhone 8 SE would make more sense (bigger screen).