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New iPhone SE Considered 'Unlikely to Launch' in 2024

Havalo said:
Just make iPhone SE the new Mini and leave it alone, very simple Apple. Not everyone wants to carry a brick.
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Not everyone can carry a brick.

We're in a services-industry environment where the current SE is already borderline too big, i.e. always getting caught on stuff when you're using a belt clip.
 
mkoesel said:
Yep, and this is why it is unlikely the 13 Mini gets another year.

Still, a hypothetical lineup where the 13 Mini stays instead of the 13 would be compelling for its lack of overlap since the 13 and 14 models share the same processor.

iPhone Mini - $599
iPhone - $699
iPhone Plus - $799

Sure, the Mini sells in small numbers, but the bottom rung legacy phone does as well. Why not keep the uniquely sized Mini around for another year at the same price rather than giving up another $100 of margin on the 13? Just some food for thought. As I say, I don’t believe this will happen, but it does at least present an interesting business case to ponder.
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Yeah, keeping the 13 mini would make more sense than keeping the 13 in the lineup with basically its clone, the iPhone 14.
 
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sw1tcher said:
If you can still buy a new one from Apple, then it wasn't discontinued.

Discontinued: (of a product) no longer available or produced.


It [iPhone 13 mini] just wasn't updated.
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By discontinued, I was referring to it no longer continuing to be part of the latest iPhone model lineup i.e., there was no iPhone 14 mini.
 
3xBoom said:
Funny how an SE conversation has transformed into a mini one. These are two different products with contrasting goals. I am a happy mini user and satisfied with its capabilities without SE's compromises, large size and weight for my liking. Long story short, Apple should try to make every slice of their user base happy. SE is great for some and mini is great for others.
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The Mini and the SE/8/7/6 are nearly the same size, which is why it invites comparison (in fact the mini is smaller while having a bigger screen). They represent the smallest phones in the iPhone lineup, with the Mini not getting refreshed and the rumor of a bigger SE next is it any wonder people are hoping the next SE will reuse the mini chassis instead? If they make the SE bigger and completely ditch the mini there wont be any more small phones in the lineup
 
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Yoms said:
The iPhone SE is just not worth it.

You can buy a refurbished iPhone 13 mini 128Go in mint condition for the same price as the current 128GB SE model. Why would you consider the SE instead?

The iPhone SE 1st gen was great. But ever since, it just hasn't been worth it.
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I got mine pretty much for Touch ID.
 
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Phantom iCloud tabs said:
The biggest problem with it, of course, is the huge forehead and chin, coupled with the increasingly obsolete and unsightly home button.
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Those might actually be the biggest problem, but damn those aren't very big problems. We used home buttons for over a decade, I'm fine with one device in my house still using it. And personally, I've never noticed in any negative way the forehead or chin on a device. That stuff never bothered me at all. And I might actually like larger bezels on a hand held device or at worst, call it a bit of a wash.
 
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seek3r said:
The Mini and the SE/8/7/6 are nearly the same size, which is why it invites comparison (in fact the mini is smaller while having a bigger screen). They represent the smallest phones in the iPhone lineup, with the Mini not getting refreshed and the rumor of a bigger SE next is it any wonder people are hoping the next SE will reuse the mini chassis instead? If they make the SE bigger and completely ditch the mini there wont be any more small phones in the lineup
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The SE and mini do invite comparisons from a size standpoint but not much else. The question is, what is the biggest selling point of the current SE? Price? Size? Touch ID? I'm guessing price is what drives people to buy SE phones much more than size, otherwise the mini would've sold better versus the regular and Max phones. As such, Apple appears to be looking to make the next SE a larger phone while trying to keep it "value" priced.
 
Yoms said:
The iPhone SE is just not worth it.

You can buy a refurbished iPhone 13 mini 128Go in mint condition for the same price as the current 128GB SE model. Why would you consider the SE instead?

The iPhone SE 1st gen was great. But ever since, it just hasn't been worth it.
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Because TouchID is more reliable than FaceID. It works every time, from every angle, without having to look at it. I see people with FaceID iPhones having to type their passcode so many times because it just doesn't work the first time.

Especially when using it for Apple Pay it just looks stupid having to point it to your face before you can pay with it. My thumb is already on the home button to invoke Wallet, so no need to look at my phone, I can just hold it next to the terminal right away.

And, there's a whole group of people over a certain age (like my parents) that really like a home button. It's just easier to explain. I've tried explaining the swipe gestures to my dad but he's just too slow (every time he wants to quit an app he inadvertently opens the app switcher).

I'm very happy with my SE. But an iPhone mini with TouchID in the power button could also do it for me. (Just no FaceID for me... only on a Mac that would make sense)
 
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This is why I think Apple has decided to go with the iPhone 13 mini case design for the next iPhone SE. A model that will lack Face ID (but with Touch ID on an enlarged power button) and only a single camera sensor in the rear.
 
Chuckles55 said:
So those of us with PWM are screwed, unless we go the frankenphone route!!
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Exactly the reason I just bought an SE; was a toss up between it and a refurbished iPhone 11.

The only OLED iPhone I've used that doesn't give me headaches immediately is the iPhone 14 Pro Max, and I'm not spending that for a phone.
 
tarasis said:
Exactly the reason I just bought an SE; was a toss up between it and a refurbished iPhone 11.

The only OLED iPhone I've used that doesn't give me headaches immediately is the iPhone 14 Pro Max, and I'm not spending that for a phone.
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My SE 3 is treating me well. The only OLED phone I have owned was the Samsung Galaxy S10e. It is a great phone for numerous reasons. When I bought it 3 or 4 years ago I had never heard of PWM. The S10e certainly did not give me any eye or headache issues but since then I have bought an iPhone 13 mini and sold it after a weekend of it burning my eyes. I am very hesitant to get a Galaxy S22 or S23 as I read that the PWM is bad on those. So my SE 3 is it for the foreseeable future. I love its size as well.
 
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I'm still kinda hoping they'll do it as an "alternating year" type thing so we'll get a new mini every 2-3 years, keeping one always in the lineup but at a slower update cadence, if they dont move the SE to the form factor
 
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Here's the thing about the Mini – you can go on iPhone.com today and buy it, new, for $599; and easily get 5-6 years of use out of it. The model is technically a year old, but has the same processor as the current model! (I'm using a phone released in 2017, and only this fall is it losing support for new versions of iOS).
 
du57in said:
Apple, please make a XR or 11 based SE. Please!
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I think that ship has sailed. With previous SEs they took iPhones that were still in production (5s, 8 and SE2), changed out a couple parts, tweaked the colors and released it as the new SE. If they were going to do this with the 11 they would've done it last year when the 11 was still in production, and the SE3 would've been an updated 11, rather than the 3rd iteration of the 8 that we got.
 
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mkoesel said:
I think that it is more likely the 13 Mini goes away, just like the 12 Mini did last year when the 12 stayed and dropped to $599.

I hope the 13 Mini sticks around, but I am not betting on it.
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We'll see what Apple does. There definitely wasn't value in keeping two minis in the lineup, but I could see them dropping the 12 & 13 in the fall and keeping the 13 Mini, 14 and 14 Plus along with the new 15 series iPhones.
 
Yoms said:
I'm not familiar with those carriers, but I assume you have to go with that carrier and have a plan with them, right? It's not just "get the iPhone for $150 and leave the next day for free" or is it?
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Depending on the carrier the phone will remain locked to their network for 6 months or 12 months. If you keep continuous uninterrupted service for 6 months (some companies) or 12 months (others) the device becomes automatically unlocked. I’ve unlocked 3 iPhone 11’s this way paying only $99 for each one. You could always take the phone and leave the next day if you wanted to, but it’d be locked to their network for service so you’d only have a Wi-Fi iPhone.
 
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erikkfi said:
This means the basic iPhone 6 design will last ten years in Apple's lineup!
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I think that there is a place for the iPhone 6 design - especially for seniors, who don't want to learn a new UI.

But at this point in time, I'm not sure who the iPhone SE is actually for.

If it is for seniors, an iPhone 8 SE would make more sense (bigger screen).
 
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