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New iPhone SE Could Launch in May With Touch ID and A10 Fusion, Without 3.5mm Headphone Jack
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No one is forcing use of a dongle. Lightning earbuds included and customers can always buy inexpensive wireless headphones or more expensive wireless headphones if they want to join the wireless future. I've never touched my included dongle and have yet to see anyone I know use their dongle. Strange how every single commenter on the Internet is begrudgingly using a dongle.
There is an entire market of cheap Bluetooth headphones I’ve seen some as low as $8 on amazon. Not to mention each phone would come with lightning headphones
Agreed. The "good reason" as far as Apple is concerned is the potential for aftermarket accessory sales. All roads lead to the profit motive.
Charge wirelessly. Problem solved.
$20 says the vast, vast, majority of iPhone users don't need to charge & listen simultaneously via ports. We're well into the 21st century. Why is this still a thing people cling to?
There's an adapter for you, I think. Pretty sure.
They couldn't go A11 on the 2018 iPad since the current iPad Pros have the A10X.
4" smartphones have been around for a decade. What "innovation" does one expect?
P.S. Using a larger font doesn't strengthen your argument.
My hunch is it’ll have an A11.
A10 is already 1 1/2 years old. It’s also a 16nm processor, as opposed to the A11 which is 10nm. Takes lots of money to keep distinctly different manufacturing nodes online and running to make physically different chips.
The SE is also on a two year cycle, meaning if Apple put an A10 in the SE2, that would mean by spring of 2020, the A10 would be in production for 3 1/2 years... a really long time for one chip. Other iPhones will be on A13 by that point, with A14 right around the corner.
So I just don’t see the A10 happening. Apple will want to give the SE2 the A11 to carry it to the next refresh, while also utilizing current manufacturing. Doesn’t matter that it won’t be using the bionic component; it really comes down to long term planning, product refresh cycle, and economies of scale. That’s why Apple gave the SE the A9 back in 2016.
A10 is already 1 1/2 years old. It’s also a 16nm processor, as opposed to the A11 which is 10nm. Takes lots of money to keep distinctly different manufacturing nodes online and running to make physically different chips.
The SE is also on a two year cycle, meaning if Apple put an A10 in the SE2, that would mean by spring of 2020, the A10 would be in production for 3 1/2 years... a really long time for one chip. Other iPhones will be on A13 by that point, with A14 right around the corner.
So I just don’t see the A10 happening. Apple will want to give the SE2 the A11 to carry it to the next refresh, while also utilizing current manufacturing. Doesn’t matter that it won’t be using the bionic component; it really comes down to long term planning, product refresh cycle, and economies of scale. That’s why Apple gave the SE the A9 back in 2016.
No if a headphone jack is that important to a consumer there are several over manufacturers that will give you one. I haven’t used the jacks since before I bought the iPhone 3GS
Wow, Apple Extremists rail on Samsung "being the same, being the same, ditto" and Apple STILL manages to cling on to a 10 year old design to EEK out as much profits as possible from stubborn Apple fans who want a dinosaur product at an "Apple Tax" price. Unbelievable!
Yeah, that is true and Apple realized that in these countries, their smartphone is the only computer the buyer has. Apple is slowly trying to make a cheap, 6" model for that marketplace. But in the mean time, they are stuck with the SE models. In the U.S. potential buyers want more high end 4" model even a flagship $1,200 model!
I won't buy it if there's no headphone jack. The smaller screen is nice, but it's not worth that downgrade.
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Apple wasn't right. Bluetooth headphones are old tech; they had been out for more than a decade. If they were a replacement, it would have happened long ago. But nobody used them until Apple forced it.
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You are suppose to use bluetooth headphones and with 5.0 standard it is pretty good!
I'm glad that works for you. It doesn't work for me. I have a set of Bluetooth headphones and I always forget to charge them. I MUCH prefer the headphone jack, thank you!
Same. I ditched my 5 only because it broke (not my fault) and heavily regret the 6 I got when the SE wasn't out yet. Some family members are retiring working iPhone 5s and 5ss (idk how to pluralize these things), so I might just take one of those.
The STUPID never stops from IveCook. The entire raison detre for this phone is the 3.5mm jack. Some people WANT a 3.5 mm jack. And no amount of lecturing and condescension from Apple is going to change that fact. OPTIONS are the enemy for the current regime. Once again, they choose to leave a market place by choice out of pure arrogance ( ie. MacPro, iPod, Airport, FinalCut-X )
If they remove the headphone jack, don't even bother releasing this phone.
Not only is Apple wrong about their jihad against the 3.5mm jack. For the first time, the public and media types are pushing back. ( not that IveCook will ever admit any mistake, or allow room for customer choice )
Let's be 100% clear about this. The war against the 3.5 jack is about 1 thing and 1 thing only. Increasing sales for Wireless Beats products. It's not an improvement, it's not better for the customer.... it's better for Beats. Period. Apple is choosing what is best for Apple, not what is best for it's customers. Jobs company was based and built on the OPPOSITE of that proposition.
If they remove the headphone jack, don't even bother releasing this phone.
Not only is Apple wrong about their jihad against the 3.5mm jack. For the first time, the public and media types are pushing back. ( not that IveCook will ever admit any mistake, or allow room for customer choice )
Let's be 100% clear about this. The war against the 3.5 jack is about 1 thing and 1 thing only. Increasing sales for Wireless Beats products. It's not an improvement, it's not better for the customer.... it's better for Beats. Period. Apple is choosing what is best for Apple, not what is best for it's customers. Jobs company was based and built on the OPPOSITE of that proposition.
I never said it was arrogant to have an opinion about the lack of a feature. I said it's arrogant to think that because an individual doesn't like a feature that it's representative of the entire market. People give countless "dealbreaker" reasons not to buy an iPhone every single year. And every single year they sell record numbers. Clearly what these people think are "dealbreakers" - aren't.
And linking to a poll on BGR as some sort of proof? As opposed to actual sales numbers of devices that people "supposedly" refuse to buy?
If Tim Cook was a Smart Man, AND that's a BIG IF, it would get the A11 + 3 GB of DRAM.
Otherwise, it won't have much of a shelf life.
So, I expect the A11 + 3 GB of DRAM.
To-date, ONLY the 7+, 8+, AND X are known to have 3 GB of DRAM ... the RED 8 "may" ... still needs to be confirmed.
Otherwise, it won't have much of a shelf life.
So, I expect the A11 + 3 GB of DRAM.
To-date, ONLY the 7+, 8+, AND X are known to have 3 GB of DRAM ... the RED 8 "may" ... still needs to be confirmed.
If the price is right I'll actually take back what I said about not buying a new iPhone this year. I'd buy one of these to use as another testing unit. But as far as using it as a daily driver, can't do it because I use the X now after selling off my 7/8 plus devices. Hard to part with the 8+ because that really is the best device I've ever used from Apple. But X is what I've converted my applications to so I must follow suit. Really really want software changes though, still hoping IOS 12 is completely redone.. but I know it isn't.
Agreed. And, they have this design already manufactured, it's the iPod Touch : )