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Annnnd her dad was fired
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And the dad was fired from Apple
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FYI...Her dad was fired from Apple today
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The father was fired today from Apple

It does indeed look like i was wrong, it was very silly on there part to do this in the first place if they knew he could get fired.
 
The video is back up and the media are reporting that he has been fired.


If you pause the video you can see sensitive information on the iPhone X.

There's 'Venus Eco Review' in the calendar and sensitive notes were shown to the camera. Although the notes are blurry, apparently some people have been able to work out what they say.

I feel bad for the guy as it's his daughter with the obsession to be liked. Well, now she is an internet sensation all for the wrong reasons.
 
That's a shame. They obviously thought that they were in the clear... but they missed some steps along the way. Perhaps the key step that would have made this play out differently, is they should have vetted the video through Apple's PR team, after creating it and before posting it. (I could easily see this as originally being an "approved" action, which took a turn for the worse when sensitive information was accidentally revealed in the process.)
 
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It’s equally amazing how many people don’t!

If Apple fired the guy it’s the most moronic thing I’ve seen them do in awhile. That video built hype and spread everywhere. It’s not like the keynote hadn’t already played out.

I can understand a reprimand if he didn’t get permission but geez. Stalin-esque control over a product that Apple already showed the world.

Typical. You either follow the rules and laws or you pay the consequences. I don't know how an Apple engineer could think this was OK at Apple of all places. I watched the video where she said he's a great Dad and all of that. But he still hasn't taught his daughter anything because she clearly doesn't know what she did that was wrong and doesn't see this as a big deal.




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It’s equally amazing how many people don’t!

If Apple fired the guy it’s the most moronic thing I’ve seen them do in awhile. That video built hype and spread everywhere. It’s not like the keynote hadn’t already played out.

I can understand a reprimand if he didn’t get permission but geez. Stalin-esque control over a product that Apple already showed the world.

The ends don’t justify the means.
 
That's a shame. They obviously thought that they were in the clear... but they missed some steps along the way. Perhaps the key step that would have made this play out differently, is they should have vetted the video through Apple's PR team, after creating it and before posting it. (I could easily see this as originally being an "approved" action, which took a turn for the worse when sensitive information was accidentally revealed in the process.)
This is just it. It was a good video and created huge amounts of positive buzz. If they went through the vetting process (and got the necessary edits to remove pre-release bugs, potentially sensitive information, as well as the serial number/QR code off his phone) it would have joined the ranks of Apple approved vlogger PR pool. Sadly, that did not happen and the inevitable did.
 
This is just it. It was a good video and created huge amounts of positive buzz. If they went through the vetting process (and got the necessary edits to remove pre-release bugs, potentially sensitive information, as well as the serial number/QR code off his phone) it would have joined the ranks of Apple approved vlogger PR pool. Sadly, that did not happen and the inevitable did.

I don't think so. The reason he got fired might not have specifically been the video being posted. The video was just evidence of a whole bunch of violations. He probably wasn't supposed to let anyone else use the pre-release X, or let anyone access his confidential Apple material even if it was on a non pre-release phone, or take videos at the Apple facility. The only way it would have been OK was if she did it after the phone was released, on a private phone that didn't Apple business materials on it, and then no permissions would have been needed.

But the troubling part is this young lady doesn't seem to understand that its not OK to put everything on YouTube. This latest video explaining that here father was fired might also be a problem. Usually with terminations like this there is some kind of separation agreement that has some terms like, we won't prosecute your or sue you, we'll give you a few bucks as you are leaving, and you agree to never talk about this. Now his daughter is out posting a YouTube video about it again. This could have violated a separation agreement.
 
I don't think so. The reason he got fired might not have specifically been the video being posted. The video was just evidence of a whole bunch of violations. He probably wasn't supposed to let anyone else use the pre-release X, or let anyone access his confidential Apple material even if it was on a non pre-release phone, or take videos at the Apple facility. The only way it would have been OK was if she did it after the phone was released, on a private phone that didn't Apple business materials on it, and then no permissions would have been needed.

But the troubling part is this young lady doesn't seem to understand that its not OK to put everything on YouTube. This latest video explaining that here father was fired might also be a problem. Usually with terminations like this there is some kind of separation agreement that has some terms like, we won't prosecute your or sue you, we'll give you a few bucks as you are leaving, and you agree to never talk about this. Now his daughter is out posting a YouTube video about it again. This could have violated a separation agreement.
Yes... all of this.

In addition, the daughter posting a video that effectively can be summed up as "dad got fired for being careless" is not going to help anyone. Now 3MM+ people have watched a video of her drawing attention to it. Every tech blog has shared that this guy was terminated as a result of it. The original video lives forever online as evidence of how careless he was. That's a good way to never work again.
 
It is a sad story but everyone seems to assume this was an excellent worker who got fired for one careless incident. If this was an outstanding employee, he would not have been let go.
 
It is a sad story but everyone seems to assume this was an excellent worker who got fired for one careless incident. If this was an outstanding employee, he would not have been let go.
Apple decides when it's ok to release information and how that information is released. None of this was approved, and consequently he was terminated. He probably would have been terminated even if he asked permission to share it, because the violations had already been committed.

That's how it works. The rules apply to everyone, and it's very clear what the rules are when a device like this is handed to you to carry. Do not share with undisclosed individuals. You can be the best employee and the world, and it's not going to save your job. Nobody in corporate America is so valuable that they can't be terminated, esp. for a clear offense as this.
 
Apple decides when it's ok to release information and how that information is released. None of this was approved, and consequently he was terminated. He probably would have been terminated even if he asked permission to share it, because the violations had already been committed.

That's how it works. The rules apply to everyone, and it's very clear what the rules are when a device like this is handed to you to carry. Do not share with undisclosed individuals. You can be the best employee and the world, and it's not going to save your job. Nobody in corporate America is so valuable that they can't be terminated, esp. for a clear offense as this.

Disagree 100%. If you own a business, sometimes people make mistakes and quality people are hard to find. Usually quality people don't make these mistakes but when it does happen, exceptions are definitely made if it benefits the business.
 
Yes... all of this.

In addition, the daughter posting a video that effectively can be summed up as "dad got fired for being careless" is not going to help anyone. Now 3MM+ people have watched a video of her drawing attention to it. Every tech blog has shared that this guy was terminated as a result of it. The original video lives forever online as evidence of how careless he was. That's a good way to never work again.

Exactly. The original video had kind of disappeared and fallen out of the news. Now her last one has gone way farther and wider than the original, along with the guys name. She needs to just stop putting stuff about her Dad on YouTube for a while.

If you saw the movie "Fun with Dick and Jane"... remember the scene where Dick Harper was in line for an interview and they realized who he was. They called him ahead of everyone else and he's thinking this is good. Then the interviewer called in his coworkers to get a picture with Dick because he was famous for the flaming news story he did. The interviewer said of course he wasn't going to hire him, but he was famous so wanted a picture. I would imagine that right now there is not an RF engineer on the planet that doesn't know this guys name and that he got fired.
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Disagree 100%. If you own a business, sometimes people make mistakes and quality people are hard to find. Usually quality people don't make these mistakes but when it does happen, exceptions are definitely made if it benefits the business.

You seriously thing this is a slap on the wrist? This was not an innocent oops. How would anyone else in Apple or their entire supply chain take their NDAs seriously if this guy has no consequence for such a flagrant disregard for it? I'm guessing Apple has plenty of RF engineers, and they can probably attract any they want because they are Apple. Also, how does anyone know this guy was "quality people". In my book, "quality people" don't do things like this.
 
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Disagree 100%. If you own a business, sometimes people make mistakes and quality people are hard to find. Usually quality people don't make these mistakes but when it does happen, exceptions are definitely made if it benefits the business.
Some things are unforgivable. And who said it benefits the business? A bunch of people on MacRumors? This video could have had severe consequences if things did not work as they did. That's the only reason why he's simply terminated, and not being sued.
 
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Annnnd her dad was fired
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And the dad was fired from Apple
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FYI...Her dad was fired from Apple today
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The father was fired today from Apple

Yep, you're right. I would have thought that someone working for Apple would know how Apple operates and have gotten permission. It's also not like she was walking around recording with a phone, she had a dSLR so it was obvious for anyone there.

But then I guess what seems like it should be obvious, isn't always.
 
Yep, you're right. I would have thought that someone working for Apple would know how Apple operates and have gotten permission. It's also not like she was walking around recording with a phone, she had a dSLR so it was obvious for anyone there.

But then I guess what seems like it should be obvious, isn't always.
One of the most common social engineering techniques is to basically act like you're allowed to do what you're doing.

Don't think this was an attempt at social engineering their way into producing a video, but when someone is shooting with a highly visible rig that they make no attempts to hide, there's what people should do and what they do.

What they should do: Challenge anyone not complying with known security procedures, and ask to see their authorization. Employees are aware of the rules -- if you see a film crew, and it doesn't sit right with you, ask to see who authorized it, or call corporate security. This is both for the safety and security of the company and your co-workers and has been part of every new employee briefing I've ever attended. It's also reiterated frequently.

What happens: Oh, they must have permission. Nobody would ever shoot a video in here without permission. I don't want to be the jerk interrupting their video session.

I think if he was challenged, he would stop and tell his daughter to put the camera away. If corporate security challenged her, they'd ask her for the memory card, and delete any footage.
 
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