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I'm getting a lot of errors also, is this just the amount of people using it right now? And either way I think it's pretty slow, the iPods are awesome though!
 
I found a flaw in searching for songs in the music store.

If you looking for a song/album/band that uses accent marks in the title (i.e. ü, é, ö, etc. etc.) you will not find those songs/albums/bands unless you include those marks. Seems pretty rediculous if you ask me. I rarely remember that the band uses those.

As for mainstream music only. Well that's what you get when you sign the big labels. What I'm sure Apple is doing is by getting the big labels they have shown an industry interest. After showing that the service is working and making money they can coax the often much more anti-piracy smaller labels into singing on too.

Also if you want to suggest an artist to be added or simply want to give feedback on the service go to this page.

http://www.info.apple.com/usen/musicstore/musicstore.html?topic=music_downloads

On the right side the box labeled frequently asked questions is a link to an iTunes music suggestion box.
 
So, I have a couple of questions. do they keep some sort of log file that knows what you ahve downloaded? What would happen if my computer was destroyed and I had to re-download all of my music. Will they charge me again?

Also, what will be the availabity of new releases on this thing? If a new album comes out on a Tuesday, is it available for download that same day? Or is their a couple week delay in availability?

Travis
 
Originally posted by Doctor Q
How long can they charge 99 cents for each song before the nature of supply and demand kicks in and they start charging 50 cents for bargain music (less popular) and more for the newly released feature-enhanced hot title? Or does supply and demand not apply to digitized music because the supply is infinite?

Well, the supply curve is not that much different qualitatively than it was with CDs. In both cases it is flat and close to zero (because the marginal cost of producing another CD or another AAC track is very low), albeit even closer to zero with the Apple Music Store than it was with CDs in retail stores (saying the supply is "infinite" is not really such a useful concept).

Anyway, for the most part they should (in theory) be setting prices to maximize revenue. It is really the elasticity of demand that will determine the price, and yes, in theory they should probably have lower prices for tracks that are not in demand. But the same should be true with CDs, and yet prices are very uniform across albums (yeah, some old stuff gets discounted, but it's still kind of shocking in some sense how many CDs fall between $14-18 at Tower Records, or whatever). So there is no guarantee that they will start differentially pricing different songs based on demand, even though in theory it seems like they ought to, if they are maximizing profits...
 
Remember everyone...

If this takes off (which I for one hope that it will), more and more artisits will come on board. It was very unlikely that Apple would be able to cater for everyones tastes on the LAUNCH day!!!

They update the music every tuesday, so hopefully in a weeks time there will be some more artists onboard.

Also the restrictions etc, within a few days there will be haxies to remove them, yes not everyone likes (or wants) haxies, but then you just decide which is more important, what you can do with *your* music, or what you have installed on your system.

Of course all IMHO :)

AppleMatt
 
Re: Apple PDA

Originally posted by painandgreed
I'm more interested in the new features on the iPod: note reader, games, and I'm told there is already a built in calender. Add a calculator and some text input and you'd have a reasonable PDA. The text input could be done the scroll button going though the alphabet and other characters and the center button for enter. Seems this would be about as fast as my struggle with text recognition on my PalmPDA. Looks like Apple may have released a PDA and just nobody noticed.

yeah the new iPods are being overshadowed by the announcement of the music service but I think Apple did a pretty sweet job with the upgrade. By offering the USB2 option, Apple is making a pretty aggressive pitch for PC users. If you look at the tech specs page, Apple gives very fair and even plug of both firewire and usb2.

The new notes feature is also interesting for its potential. I read on Apple's site about possibly downloading restaurant reviews with the new applet. There's potential for a AvantGo-like service for the iPod. This is definitely a stealth-pda if I ever saw one. The only limitations I see are its smallish display and lack of an input.
 
I think it's about time!

I've been waiting since last October or November for the iPod updates. Thank goodness they finally released them, I was getting ansy! They look awesome, I can't wait!

Seems like I'm having the same problem as a lot of other people, the Apple Music Store is being very anemic .. Perhaps because there are so many first-time users swamping their poor servers ;)
 
Re: don't play it loud

Originally posted by tmsds
This music service is utterly useless unless you are about 45-years old with a taste in music as refined as a launch event that has Bono gapping about the "future of music". Give me a break - Jobs spent the last year wiping the BigFive's asses and didnt bother to get a single (even Semi-) Independent on board? Sting, Sheryl Crow, U2? An alternative section that feaures the Cranberries? Who is in charge over there? Ned Flanders?

I would agree, if you're starting from zero...

I already own the CD's of all the inide and English bands that I like, and I will always want to buy them in "tangible" form. All I want this service for is to download the mainstream song that I'd never buy otehrwise. For example, I like "Hotel California," but I'd never, ever buy an Eagles album to get it. Now I can, for a buck. It would make me happy if any of my five favorite bands were on there (I cant't wait to get home and check), but it doesn't really matter, since I already have all there stuff, and will buy the CD as new stuff comes out.
 
my 1st m4p purchase

i managed to login... and bought

megadeth's "wake up dead" :: peace sells but who's buying.

kick ass. KICK ASS I SAY!!!!
 
Originally posted by starflyer 59
So, I have a couple of questions. do they keep some sort of log file that knows what you ahve downloaded? What would happen if my computer was destroyed and I had to re-download all of my music. Will they charge me again?

Also, what will be the availabity of new releases on this thing? If a new album comes out on a Tuesday, is it available for download that same day? Or is their a couple week delay in availability?

Travis

They keep a list just to insure you don't accidentaly buy duplicates. When you are about to purchase a duplicate it simply warns you about it.

If your cd collection is stolen or lost to fire etc. does the production company allow you to replace them for free? I hope that answers your question. I'm not saying it's a bad idea but they do have to pay for bandwith and server costs etc.. I do think you should suggest this idea to them though through Requests & Feedback option at the Music service homepage in iTunes.
 
yay, i'm going for a new iPod. they look pretty classy; i like the retro look. quick question--is there a way for me to convert my library to AAC without losing all the count and rating info and what not?
 
Originally posted by noel4r
i like the new ipods, i will finally get either 10G or the 15G. i dont like the restriction on the downloaded music though. it's my music, i paid for it, therefore i own it. who are they to tell me what i can or can't do with it.

Do you really have that simplistic a view of what you're buying? They can sell you a song with limited rights for 99c or they can sell you a song that you can share with your friends and a million internet strangers, but they'll charge you a heck of a lot more. It's called copyright law, and it gives the holder the right to control distribution. Without it, no more music.

It's no different with any other music, books, etc. you buy. You can read it; you can loan it to a friend; you can photocopy parts of it. But you can't make a million copies (or let others do so).

Apple's offering a product to honest people, and placing reasonable restrictions on distributing the music. If you don't want to be honest, keep using kazaa.
 
Originally posted by vanillamike

$100 US for an extra 5GB to get to the 15GB model is pretty heavy. Makes me want to bite the bullet and put in $200 US to get and extra 20GB but that is a lot of coin for an MP3 player.


Mike

I disagree.

Going from 10 to 15 gets you: an extra 5 GB of storage, the Dock, the wired remote for the headphones, and the carrying case/belt clip.

Going from 15 to 30 gets you: an extra 15 GB of strorage. (And an extra 0.6 ounces of weight, which is a minus!)

I think that for many people the first package of additions is worth more than the second package of additions (which only includes one good thing - the other thing is a bad thing!).
 
Originally posted by noel4r
i like the new ipods, i will finally get either 10G or the 15G. i dont like the restriction on the downloaded music though. it's my music, i paid for it, therefore i own it. who are they to tell me what i can or can't do with it.

Um, they're the composers of the music, you idiot. It's THEIR music, not yours. They're letting YOU listen to it, so piss off.
 
Efficient iTunes

Has anyone else noticed how little processor iTunes is using. I'm playing a 192 encoded mp3, and it's fliking between 4-10%. Looks like there have been a number of AltiVec enchancements to the app. It used to jump between ~10-25%, BTW this is on a 2001 733MHz, QS.

Later
 
Originally posted by macrumors12345
I disagree.

Going from 10 to 15 gets you: an extra 5 GB of storage, the Dock, the wired remote for the headphones, and the carrying case/belt clip.

Going from 15 to 30 gets you: an extra 15 GB of strorage. (And an extra 0.6 ounces of weight, which is a minus!)

I think that for many people the first package of additions is worth more than the second package of additions (which only includes one good thing - the other thing is a bad thing!).

No way, dude. Believe me, the pricing of the 15GB is just a ploy to get more people to buy the 30GB. Before, the 10GB was the most popular because it was only $100 more than the 5GB. Twice as much space for only $100 more. Apple is betting that more people will pony up the extra $100 for the 30GB because it is perceived as a better value than the 15GB. (Though personally, cheap bastard that I am I'm about to put in an order for the 10GB).
 
Rights to purchased licenses

I can't believe people are complaining about "only" being able to copy the song to 3 PCs, any number of iPods, or burned to CD. I think that's incredibly reasonable for $0.99! It lets you listen at home, work, and your laptop, as well as your iPod. If you only want the 1 or 2 songs from a CD, you don't have to buy the whole thing. If you DO want to buy the whole thing, it's cheaper than the store. You can preview songs before you buy in your own home.

It sounds to me that Apple really got it right for a 1.0, limited release service. As more record companies, countries, Windows users, etc., get added on, this could really pick up steam. But considering how overloaded the servers already are, it seems like a good idea to limit the distribution on roll-out.
 
Efficient iTunes

Has anyone else noticed how little processor iTunes is using. I'm playing a 192 encoded mp3, and it's fliking between 4-10%. Looks like there have been a number of AltiVec enchancements to the app. It used to jump between ~10-25%, BTW this is on a 2001 733MHz, QS.

Later
 
Don't do it!

Originally posted by Shadowfax
yay, i'm going for a new iPod. they look pretty classy; i like the retro look. quick question--is there a way for me to convert my library to AAC without losing all the count and rating info and what not?

You'd be recompressing your songs a second time and would sound like crap. You could re-rip all your CD's if you had a couple of weeks!
 
Re: my 1st m4p purchase

Originally posted by gandalf55
i managed to login... and bought

megadeth's "wake up dead" :: peace sells but who's buying.

kick ass. KICK ASS I SAY!!!!

Whadda ya mean I don't pay my bills.
Why do you think I'm broke? Huh?

...can you put a price on peace? :D

It is fantastic! Good to hear that it's not just U2 and the Coors on this service...
 
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