i still don't understand why people would use this when you can get it all for free plus the fact that no independent music is available means i'm interested in about .01% of the stuff they offer. I guess i hope it is successful to give apple some revenue to finally get the chips back in the running and i must admit they did a great job of integrating the store aspect within iTunes.
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New iPods, New Apple Music Service
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I think that's the whole point! Drive people to conclude that the best deal is the most expensive model. There's a reason they don't have a $199 model even though they could make one and still make a profit. You do of course also get the stand as part of the upgrade to 15GB. I agree though, compared to yesterdays $400 10GB model, the 15 is underwhelming, whereas the 30 gets you a bit more in comparison to what the 20GB got you yesterday. I still think they each need to drop $100, but then there goes their profit margin.
So anyone care to explain how the "Shared Music Library" works? I'm guessing this is the rendezvous feature, so does this mean that other macs on your network can access your music library???
Thoughts for the future
I've been playing with the 30-second preview. It sounds great, and there's essentially no delay.
Why not just make all music available as "pay per listen" at maybe 2-cents or whatever.
Choose custom play-lists 25-cents/hr.
The universal juke-box for the 21st century. All music available all the time; pay for what you listen to.
No copy, no copy-protection, no problem.
I understand it doesn't replace the iPod (which I'm about to buy) until we've got good high-speed wireless, but from my desktop, it would be way cool.
I've been playing with the 30-second preview. It sounds great, and there's essentially no delay.
Why not just make all music available as "pay per listen" at maybe 2-cents or whatever.
Choose custom play-lists 25-cents/hr.
The universal juke-box for the 21st century. All music available all the time; pay for what you listen to.
No copy, no copy-protection, no problem.
I understand it doesn't replace the iPod (which I'm about to buy) until we've got good high-speed wireless, but from my desktop, it would be way cool.
wow...sharing
i don't think apple thought of college networks when they implemented sharing. It is by far the best part of itunes for me. i now have streaming access to about 40000 songs, and that's only from people who have downloaded itunes this afternoon at my school!
i don't think apple thought of college networks when they implemented sharing. It is by far the best part of itunes for me. i now have streaming access to about 40000 songs, and that's only from people who have downloaded itunes this afternoon at my school!
Hello? There is a world
Steve mentioned the service will be available to windows users, however, he didn't say when apple will discover the "World". Yes, the "World" does not consist of the US.
Just like in other apple software, ie, sherlock, most of it is totally useless to the rest of the World.
Apple can't keep on messing the rest of us about like this.
Music Licensing issues or not, Apple should sort this out.
Apple have not does anything until other parts of the world are catered for before other competitors fill the gap for the rest of us. This will be a shame it Apple don't sort themselves out.
Steve mentioned the service will be available to windows users, however, he didn't say when apple will discover the "World". Yes, the "World" does not consist of the US.
Just like in other apple software, ie, sherlock, most of it is totally useless to the rest of the World.
Apple can't keep on messing the rest of us about like this.
Music Licensing issues or not, Apple should sort this out.
Apple have not does anything until other parts of the world are catered for before other competitors fill the gap for the rest of us. This will be a shame it Apple don't sort themselves out.
maybe apple did think about the colleges... I'd like to think that was steve's little gift to all us poor college students! Okay, we won't pirate your music just let us share it 
I mean after all that is what napster, kazaa, gnutella and the rest were originally for right.
I mean after all that is what napster, kazaa, gnutella and the rest were originally for right.Re: Great service...
Call me a Naysayer Timothy, I'm willing to wait a little longer for International iTunes - however call me cynical when iPhoto print ordering and Sherlock features such as maps are *STILL* not in Australia.
Kodak stores are everywhere and obtaining prints from CDs has been around for ages - where's my iPhoto service!?
A comprehensive Map website (whereis.com.au), Yellow Pages and Whitepages are all here - can we use Sherlock to access them? No!
I think Apple is shooting themsleves in the foot not having these services because people are out there want to use them.
Ok enough of my rant - I really do hope that this music service makes an appearance in Oz soon - but I'm a little cynical given Apple's track record...
-- Dan
Call me a Naysayer Timothy, I'm willing to wait a little longer for International iTunes - however call me cynical when iPhoto print ordering and Sherlock features such as maps are *STILL* not in Australia.
Kodak stores are everywhere and obtaining prints from CDs has been around for ages - where's my iPhoto service!?
A comprehensive Map website (whereis.com.au), Yellow Pages and Whitepages are all here - can we use Sherlock to access them? No!
I think Apple is shooting themsleves in the foot not having these services because people are out there want to use them.
Ok enough of my rant - I really do hope that this music service makes an appearance in Oz soon - but I'm a little cynical given Apple's track record...
-- Dan
Re: don't play it loud
You people are absolutly so ignorant. How can you say that this is useless? This IS the future of music. Big deal that there arn't any independent labels yet. BOO fricken HOOOO!!! Didn't you not stop to think that the majority of the country listens to what is popular and if Apple wanted to make this work it would be advantages for them to wipe the asses of the Big five so that they would be on board and the Independents will follow? Eventually everyone will be in on this. But noooo you people have to find something to whine about. Everything has to be perfect and no flaws when it comes out. You look at the flaws first rather than the opportunities for this. People like you make me so mad. Obviously this service will appeal to people of all ages and all tastes of music...hence all the different genres. DUH!!!!!! Persnally U2 is my fav. band and argueably the best band in the world. And I also am a fan of Ned Flanders...but I don't think he's in charge otherwise there would be only hyms to download. thats my two cents
You people are absolutly so ignorant. How can you say that this is useless? This IS the future of music. Big deal that there arn't any independent labels yet. BOO fricken HOOOO!!! Didn't you not stop to think that the majority of the country listens to what is popular and if Apple wanted to make this work it would be advantages for them to wipe the asses of the Big five so that they would be on board and the Independents will follow? Eventually everyone will be in on this. But noooo you people have to find something to whine about. Everything has to be perfect and no flaws when it comes out. You look at the flaws first rather than the opportunities for this. People like you make me so mad. Obviously this service will appeal to people of all ages and all tastes of music...hence all the different genres. DUH!!!!!! Persnally U2 is my fav. band and argueably the best band in the world. And I also am a fan of Ned Flanders...but I don't think he's in charge otherwise there would be only hyms to download. thats my two cents
New iPod software doesn't deliver!
I was very excited when I first learned the details about version 1.3 earlier today.
Why can't old iPods support the new features? They have the same number of buttons, so why can't I play solitare or make a playlist on-the-go (my two favorite features).
I sent feedback to Apple through the iPod feedback page (here). I don't want to have to buy a whole new iPod just for some software features.
I was very excited when I first learned the details about version 1.3 earlier today.
Why can't old iPods support the new features? They have the same number of buttons, so why can't I play solitare or make a playlist on-the-go (my two favorite features).
I sent feedback to Apple through the iPod feedback page (here). I don't want to have to buy a whole new iPod just for some software features.
don't forget Bob
Can a music service really be called a music service without the some of the best-selling artists of all-time?
Well, Steve made sure to include Bob Dylan.
Can a music service really be called a music service without the some of the best-selling artists of all-time?
Well, Steve made sure to include Bob Dylan.
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I've been on the Music Store this evening and it performed without a hitch - the previews are going to be especially useful.
I would have spent a few dollars tonight, but as I'm in the UK, I'll have to find another way to get the tracks I want.
I'm sure it's not Apple's fault that Music Store is US only - but you know the worst .... Windows users in the US are going to get access to this service before us loyal Apple users everywhere else.
Steve ... that REALLY hurts.
I would have spent a few dollars tonight, but as I'm in the UK, I'll have to find another way to get the tracks I want.
I'm sure it's not Apple's fault that Music Store is US only - but you know the worst .... Windows users in the US are going to get access to this service before us loyal Apple users everywhere else.
Steve ... that REALLY hurts.
Just tried it
I loved, Only apple could do such a great service. It worked like a charmed.
go apple go!!!
I loved, Only apple could do such a great service. It worked like a charmed.
go apple go!!!
album art
not sure if this was mentioned (this is a long thread) but you can just go to amazon and download cover art for all the albums you already have and drag them into itunes..sweet feature
not sure if this was mentioned (this is a long thread) but you can just go to amazon and download cover art for all the albums you already have and drag them into itunes..sweet feature
Re: New iPod software doesn't deliver!
Jeez, I for one am glad they kept this out. I don't need it and don't want it. Get a PDA or a gameboy. I think the less junk they add on the better! Remember the 1.2.1 fiasco that suddenly sent battery life into the toilet for many? Was it the alarm, the clock? Who knows, but it took 7 months to fix!
Playlist on the go is sorta nice, doubt I'd ever use it, and it's not a huge burden to only have playlist creation in iTunes. Really, we all bought the old models as they were without any promise of future improvements and yet we got some anyway. My Walkmans certainly never gained features months later! I'm just stoked that now I can use AAC on my very space limited 5GB.
One feature I'd really love--song deletion from the iPod, or at least a way to make it automatically get deleted the next time it's plugged to your mac.
Jeez, I for one am glad they kept this out. I don't need it and don't want it. Get a PDA or a gameboy. I think the less junk they add on the better! Remember the 1.2.1 fiasco that suddenly sent battery life into the toilet for many? Was it the alarm, the clock? Who knows, but it took 7 months to fix!
Playlist on the go is sorta nice, doubt I'd ever use it, and it's not a huge burden to only have playlist creation in iTunes. Really, we all bought the old models as they were without any promise of future improvements and yet we got some anyway. My Walkmans certainly never gained features months later! I'm just stoked that now I can use AAC on my very space limited 5GB.
One feature I'd really love--song deletion from the iPod, or at least a way to make it automatically get deleted the next time it's plugged to your mac.
Well, let me state my case here.
1. I actually own a Gameboy, but I don't carry it with me everywhere. Besides, it's pointless to compare solitare to a gameboy game.
2. I've owned a PDA before, and I never use them very much. I don't need the other features. Just mp3 and a good timewaster game (although I like the idea of taking quick text notes).
3. Don't complain about 5 GB iPod battery power. I own a 5 GB and I know how bad the battery used to be. You might have missed that the 1.3 Read me mentions that it provides even better battery life than before.
4. I would really use the playlist feature. I use my iPod to sample new music when I get it, and would love to be able to put my favorite new songs into a playlist right away.
Come on Apple! Let's see a full featured update for older 'Pods!
so...i got artwork from amazon.com and dragged it to my itunes artwork window..but then i realized that the little 20% showed up like it was on amazon...so i found another good picture and dragged it ...but now i have 2 pictures and little arrows where i can switch the artwork...but i don't know how to delete the art i don't want...any ideas?
Re: Re: New iPod software doesn't deliver!
Being able to delete (or mark for deletion) a track would be GREAT! Often I will notice a flaw or duplicate when I am away from the computer, that way one could make some sort of notation to delete it, or delete it right away.. that would be a cool feature.