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I'm impressed, but cannot help but think this is a stop-gap / watch-and-see device until the full-fledged video iPod emerges. iPod photo began as a "special" type of iPod which morphed into a feature available in all color iPods. Hopefully this will follow suit.

Two major concerns over this new video feature which I don't know if Steve addressed... battery and hard drive life.

One of the wonderful things about the original iPod up to 4G was the reserved battery life. Yea, it's short compared to other players, and it's non-removable, but it worked well and allowed enough time to enjoy before recharging. How is video going to drain the battery now? Is the battery improved to compensate?

The other concern which coincides with the battery is hard drive life. Since the original concept of loading songs into a buffer allowed for a minimal amount of hard drive access, how is it going to be addressed in 5G? Will the new slimmer version be able to "resist" mechanical and heat issues since the drive needs to be accessed more to run video? Hard drives do eventually break down.

I'm drooling over this update, but am curious to see the reviews or see analyses about these issues. Did Apple up the buffer to make this new cool-thing work more efficiently?

-m

ps:
I hope us 4'gers are given some type of updates even if not video on the color/photo versions. New software? More efficient battery usage? Apple innovates, but also cannot abandon its earlier adopters (and not expect the purchase of new devices for new features)... one can only dream.
 
What the hell was the point of itunes 5?... anyone?

Also... what is so special about iTunes 6 "finally" having video playback? you could play video's and stuff in iTunes since iTunes 4 what's the big deal?
 
Anyone notice that Quicktime 7.0.3 is not available???

Anyone notice that Quicktime 7.0.3 is not available??? When you download iTunes 6 you need Quicktime 7.0.3 for the video to work. So now I have iTunes 6 but cannot use the video. :confused:
 
So I just read over everything, and i definitly think my head is going to explode. Apple is gioiing to own the portable video device market. Also the deal with abc is pure jobs genius. Bringing in the television industry makes the ipod that much more potent to competitors. Jobs should totally start his own religion, I know I would join.
 
shyataroo said:
What the hell was the point of itunes 5?... anyone?

I think that was podcasting, no?

Anyway, I assume by current 60 gb will play videos, right? You don;t have to have the new ones to watch video, I hope.
 
Just went to the German store... (I'm US)

The German store has a Top 100 downloaded video, Currently 1. "Like a Virgin", 2. "Pixar" and that's it.

Also, Germany has a link straight to Pixar Shorts in the Inside the Music Store Section.

Okay, US has the same thing if you click on the "2000 Videos" link. I had to restart iTunes for it to work, not sure if that was just a fluke or not.
 
Does anybody know if there are limitations on the TV shows? I would assume unlimited viewing and strict or no burning, but in an age when the MPAA wants to make view once DVD's, and limit how many times you can watch something before paying for it again, you never know...

My other question is what connection does the Apple Wireless Remote use? I would guess infrared, because of the front, but I see no infrared port on the front of the new iMac. Oh well, time will tell.
 
corbin_a2 said:
Anyone notice that Quicktime 7.0.3 is not available??? When you download iTunes 6 you need Quicktime 7.0.3 for the video to work. So now I have iTunes 6 but cannot use the video. :confused:

Just go to apple.com and dowload quicktime. It's version 7.0.3 even though it doesn't say so. I already did and am now watching last week's epsiode of lost. This is awesome.
 
Much better than what I expected. I just ordered a 60GB Black iPod, Apple Remote, and Universal Dock. I had to skip a class in school just so I could see what Apple released. I am very excited to say the least! :D
 
corbin_a2 said:
Anyone notice that Quicktime 7.0.3 is not available??? When you download iTunes 6 you need Quicktime 7.0.3 for the video to work. So now I have iTunes 6 but cannot use the video. :confused:
Go to the Quicktime download page. It doesn't say 7.0.3 on the page, but it showed up on "About Quicktime" after I installed it.

Cheers
 
G4scott said:
Does anybody know if there are limitations on the TV shows? I would assume unlimited viewing and strict or no burning, but in an age when the MPAA wants to make view once DVD's, and limit how many times you can watch something before paying for it again, you never know...

My other question is what connection does the Apple Wireless Remote use? I would guess infrared, because of the front, but I see no infrared port on the front of the new iMac. Oh well, time will tell.

to get the remote to work you have to also get the new dock which has infrared on it
 
iTunes + Video

Ok, now having gone through the whole process of updating iTunes, and Quicktime, and buying a video I can share my thoughts.

1.) Videos should be stored in JUST the "Videos" of iTunes, not the entire music library... this makes things murky.

2.) Front Row needs to be sold separately, the already have the Apple remote separate.

3.) The video feature on all fronts is a nice addition, Apple clearly left room for improvement, I downloaded the pilot of lost and it ran smoothly on my 466 tower. Make sure to download quicktime separate for the videos to work. Hopefully Apple will fix this.

4.) New iPods are nice. Although there is a big gap between the Nano and the video iPod, the product line looks good given current technology constraints.

Edit: Has the iMac always been 1440x900 res?
 
$1.99 for a show on a non-cable show?

I don't understand why people think $1.99 for a TV show is a good deal. These aren't HBO or Showtime shows, these are shows that anyone with a TV can watch on ABC. Give me a easy way to transfer my Tivo'd shows to my iPod, then I'll be intersted. And $1.99 for a music video is beyond ridiculous.
 
The rest of us...

natehan said:
Watching an entire TV show on a 2.5 screen is pretty strenuous, but $2 is a great deal.

With H.264 you should also be able to get reasonable quality watching missed
tv shows on your computer so even if you can't afford (right now) a new
iPod, you should still benefit.
 
mflat5 said:
I'm impressed, but cannot help but think this is a stop-gap / watch-and-see device until the full-fledged video iPod emerges. iPod photo began as a "special" type of iPod which morphed into a feature available in all color iPods. Hopefully this will follow suit.
The video is not a "special" type of iPod. The iPod video has replaced the previous iPod color line.
mflat5 said:
One of the wonderful things about the original iPod up to 4G was the reserved battery life. Yea, it's short compared to other players, and it's non-removable, but it worked well and allowed enough time to enjoy before recharging. How is video going to drain the battery now? Is the battery improved to compensate?
Steve says up to 20 hours of battery life.
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I hope us 4'gers are given some type of updates even if not video on the color/photo versions. New software? More efficient battery usage? Apple innovates, but also cannot abandon its earlier adopters (and not expect the purchase of new devices for new features)... one can only dream.
I'm sure a firmware update with video support will be available in about three months.
 
natehan said:
Watching an entire TV show on a 2.5 screen is pretty strenuous, but $2 is a great deal.

Hopefully you'll find watching it on a 20" screen (new or old iMacs) to be less strenuous ... or even via you PowerMac/PowerBook's DVI to a 50" DLP screen or so (although this is sub-DVD quality, essentially VHS resolution video).
 
Firewire???

To all of those bemoaning the loss of Firewire on the new iPods ....

Has anyone actually confirmed that these new iPods will or will not work with FW? It's quite easy for Apple to leave out features that their devices have in the Tech Specs. After all, there are a bunch of Mac mini's out there with faster processors, more VRAM, etc. than what is listed on Apple's site.

Also, to anyone who has downloaded a video. Can you post what kind of Mac you're running. I have an iBook 500 and would like to know if I'll be able to watch the videos. I'm guessing that 320x240 isn't too taxing.
 
areyouwishing said:
Although there is a big gap between the Nano and the video iPod, the product line looks good given current technology constraints.
I'm telling you, they're going to bring back the mini at Macworld.

ftaok said:
To all of those bemoaning the loss of Firewire on the new iPods ....

Has anyone actually confirmed that these new iPods will or will not work with FW? It's quite easy for Apple to leave out features that their devices have in the Tech Specs.
Also true. The new iPod just comes with a USB cable and has been ever since the Click Wheel iPods. But if you have a Firewire dock connector cable, it should work fine.
 
Aqua Structure said:
Also true. The new iPod just comes with a USB cable and has been ever since the Click Wheel iPods. But if you have a Firewire dock connector cable, it should work fine.
That's what I'm hoping for. My iBook only has USB1, but it does have Firewire. My wife's Dell laptop also only has USB1 and FW.

So unless I buy a new Mac, I'd wouldn't really enjoy using this new iPod.
 
This whole suite - Keynote; iLife incl iTunes with video; iPod with slideshow, video & remote ... are very powerful business tools.

Put all the presentation material on an iPod, set up the dock, plug into a projector, with remote ... complete portable AV presentation kit in a couple of pockets (apart from the projector). Beats carrying a laptop!
 
front row

hello, i wounder if front row is installable for powermacs and powerbooks. still i miss the tv control and record functionality...

this new imac mac a lot of sense to catch the normal people (coach potatos) ;-)
 
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