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nagromme said:
I too wonder where the IR port is on the iMac, and am disappointed it's not BT. But by being IR, it can work with the new iPod docks, too (without the docks having to be more expensive).

An even better reason for the remote to be IR - my home theater remote can learn its codes.

While I'm certainly underwhelmed by what Apple's offering today, I hope this is their dipping the toe in the waters of home theater. I want to see them jump in and offer a more complete solution (set-top box) sometime in the future. The market is there, Steve, not in portable video! :rolleyes:
 
nagromme said:
What makes you think the TV shows are sold at 2.5-inch iPod quality? iTMS doesn't mean you have to use an iPod.

The ability to play these videos/shows on your iPod is just an extra perk. It's not the main point of this. Watch the shows on your Mac--or on TV. That's what most people will do.

Right the guys on CNBC need to understand this. Most people will watch the TV shows on their computers.
 
ftaok said:
That's what I'm hoping for. My iBook only has USB1, but it does have Firewire. My wife's Dell laptop also only has USB1 and FW.

So unless I buy a new Mac, I'd wouldn't really enjoy using this new iPod.

It doesn't show connectivity with FW :-(
 
Gjunkie said:
Apple used to be all about high end, and now, selling video at a mere 320x240 resolution to put it on a 60 gig iPod it seems like Apple is going for the mallrats who don't care about quality.

Apple sells iTunes songs at 128Kb. This is not high-end!

They have realised most consumers (ie the vast majority of iPod buyers) dont care about quality, just convienience and style...
 
heh. there seems to be problems all over this launch. iTunes 6 says i need Quicktime 7.0.3 and to check software update. software update says i'm up to date. links appearing and disappearing in the iTMS. there new beta just for you thing doesn't work. i'd say the whole iPod/iTunes aspect of this was a letdown. not looking too hot.

the iMac looks more interesting. it needs a tuner for TV and other TV stuff. but so far so good.
 
Neuro said:
Apple sells iTunes songs at 128Kb. This is not high-end!

They have realised most consumers (ie the vast majority of iPod buyers) dont care about quality, just convienience and style...

Yeah, and before the iPod, Apple customers were ALL high end. I dont know why apple sells at such a low bitrate. I would much rather buy them at at least... AT LEAST 193.
 
So does it actually support QT movies, or just mpeg4, etc etc.

Because if it supports QT, QT supports Flash...could you run .swf files on it? Interactivity? GAMES?
 
Gjunkie said:

Doesn't look like Apple is listing the specs on their site anywhere (if macbidouille is right, then I can understand why since other people will be upset, too). So then you will have two advantages of buying a DVD over iTunes

• cheaper cost per episode
• DVD-quality

The advantage of buying through iTunes

• cheaper if you want only some episodes
• easier to get it onto your computer and/or iPod.
 
dornoforpyros said:
$1.99 for a music video...lame
$1.99 for a TV show(hour long) NICE!

Hmmm... £1.89 for the same thing in the UK. I think the exchange rate must be doing REAAAAL bad right now!

Even so, I don't think it's a bad price for an hour (approx) TV show and assuming the UK store gets some interesting content, I'll be buying.

New slim look works for me and a 20 hour battery life for music on the 60GB model is great. Can't wait to get my hands on one. Although maybe I'll wait for a screen cover to be released first. :rolleyes:

Anyone else see the footage on BBC News 24? Screen looked bigger than I expected.
 
The new features need a little work. I wonder why it's Beta :p

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autrefois said:
Doesn't look like Apple is listing the specs on their site anywhere (if macbidouille is right, then I can understand why since other people will be upset, too). So then you will have two advantages of buying a DVD over iTunes

• cheaper cost per episode
• DVD-quality

The advantage of buying through iTunes

• cheaper if you want only some episodes
• easier to get it onto your computer and/or iPod.

If I were Apple, I would sell the videos at a decent resolution and then when transferring to the iPod, "optimize" the video for iPod... so basically shrink it... might take a while, but I would rather do that.
 
ifjake said:
heh. there seems to be problems all over this launch. iTunes 6 says i need Quicktime 7.0.3 and to check software update. software update says i'm up to date. links appearing and disappearing in the iTMS. there new beta just for you thing doesn't work. i'd say the whole iPod/iTunes aspect of this was a letdown. not looking too hot.

the iMac looks more interesting. it needs a tuner for TV and other TV stuff. but so far so good.

If you go to Quicktime's site and download it, you'll get the right version.

Whenever they update a program like iTunes, they've always had it listed on the site before Software Update registers it. It's happened for every launch of iTunes and Quicktime. They do it so they can reach Windows users as early as possible rather than dinkering around with Software Update for an hour, then putting it up on the site.
 
wow.....

it's not surprising that that gear heads don't like this.

to the mass market, this is an AMAZING day.

why? Because it's easy to use. You buy iPod, which you already know about, and the same place you get music, you get TV and short movies.

that's it. it's perfect

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they will sell boat loads of these, rapidly.
 
Hmm, not having much luck this end.
Did all the updates to Quicktime and iTunes, but the video "previews" are a bit hit and miss.
In the UK (where the "Music Videos" still links to the old lay out) I can just about access the Madonna back-catalogue (thrilling). For some reason though, sometimes it'll preview a video and then others it'll do nothing but iTunes will say it's playing...

Let's hope the iPods don't do this!
 
Neuro said:
They have realised most consumers (ie the vast majority of iPod buyers) dont care about quality, just convienience and style...

Yep. And it's insanely frustrating for those of us who do care about quality, and who remember the Apple that cared. Now it's all about style and popular functions over total quality. Adding a nonessential feature like video was all about maintaining popularity as compared to the competition. In my opinion, it wasn't about doing what's right to improve on the product and experience. Not that it's a bad thing, mind you, just superfluous. ;)

The iPod offers far and away the best overall music listening experience, which is exactly why it frustrates people like me so much when Apple skimps on one little aspect of quality (see sig). There's no viable alternative because all of them are so far behind in overall experience, and it's clear that Apple is willing to continue to skimp. The majority of the buying public doesn't care, so why should they? Such is life with a mass market product. :(
 
HiRez said:
Yay! But...$2.00 for a music video??? Uh, no thanks.


yeah video content should be subscription based, why the f**k am i going to pay for a show that my DVR is recording for me to watch tonite again? THis is like sony with their UMD Discs, "Yes now you can pay for the same movie you just bought on dvd on umd.!" yea right. sign me up.
 
-No firewire is lame
-It says on the website that it comes with a" Dock adapter for use with Universal Dock"...what the crap is that?


friggen website doesnt even work.
 
bankshot said:
Yep. And it's insanely frustrating for those of us who do care about quality

If you care so much about quality, encode it yourself! Why is that so hard? If you care, you'll take the time to do it, thus defining how much you care!

The rest of us DONT care and its stupid for Apple to sell songs with better compression because it ups the size, thus making their iPods look inferior because it only holds 500 songs on a 30gb iPod. Its called marketing, but it also doesnt make the hardware any less.

Some people complain just to complain.
 
R.I.P. U2/Harry Potter iPods

First, a moment of silence for the U2 iPod and the "We-Hardly-Knew-YE" Harry Potter iPod.

Ok, moving on from there.

First, there are lots of perhaps shady but still possible ways to rip video from a DVD and encode it for use on these new video iPods. I'll start on the Simpsons when I get home. A decent-quality MP3 or .H348gksh thingy should be about 40-50MB. Not GREAT, but certainly watchable. So, at 100+ episodes, I can get the entire Simpsons collection to date on my iPod in 5GB of so. For another couple gig's I can carry all my Family Guys as well...

So, the next question: Are there playlists for videos?

Also, will there be "video albums" with an artist's greatest hits videos packaged together for a discounted price? That would be nice.

I read someplace that the iPod photos currently in stores are software crippled to not play video, and they should be fully capable. Kinda frustrating.

However, not as frustrating at Tivo-To-Go being Windows only. Steve should have offered to make a Tivo-To-Go client that DRMs video taken off the Tivo the same way the Windows software does, so we can enjoy it on our Macs and iPod photos, and especially now that the iMac has this faux-media center aspect.

Which, for all the naysayers about the iMac's new features, let's remember that it doesn't cost buyer a DIME more than the old one did, so there's really not a lot to complain about other than wanting more, more, more. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's very American, but just to put a little perspective on things.

Finally, yes, I am also unable to access the story. Menus load lickety-split, can't get to any content. I am wondering if perhaps some server overload is taking place with all these Macrumors forum users downloading video to check out the quality (so they can complain about it on here). But really, with 2000 videos, an iTunes update and a QT update, that's a LOT of content those servers are slinging around the world. Let them catch up a bit before we write off the launch as "a mess" or disasterous or whatever.
 
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