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Ok - so I have copied 6 files now, and all show up as ringtones in iTunes. Only one actually appears on my phone. I cannot figure out anything that I might have done differently.
 
Do MP3's have to be re-encoded as AAC? Can we just change the extension to MPR? I almost all of my music is in MP3 format.

Yes, quick and easy way to do this on a mac is to go into the itunes pref. and select your importing via tha AAC encoder. Then right click your mp3 in itunes and select 'convert selection to AAC'
 
Ok - so I have copied 6 files now, and all show up as ringtones in iTunes. Only one actually appears on my phone. I cannot figure out anything that I might have done differently.

Maybe there is a size/length limitation on the iphone? What is the size/length of the ringtones that sinc versus the ones that don't? I've only tested with short ringtones.
 
Maybe there is a size/length limitation on the iphone? What is the size/length of the ringtones that sinc versus the ones that don't? I've only tested with short ringtones.

well that's what i thought since the first ones I tred were whole songes (3-4 min) then the one that worked was only 30 sec. But then I tried other short ones, and no luck.
 
well that's what i thought since the first ones I tred were whole songes (3-4 min) then the one that worked was only 30 sec. But then I tried other short ones, and no luck.

Maybe encoding bitrate or incompatible filename? You would think that there is some sort of commonality with the ones that won't sync. Are the ones not sync'ing from drm tracks? Just throwing these ideas out there.

edit:Oh, are all the ringtones in your itunes folder? in the same subfolder?
 
I can't get it.

On the Mac:

1. Show in finder.
2. Duplicate
3. .mpa->.mpr
4. 2xClick back into iTunes

...the original (.m4a) file plays, presumably due to some sort of song-dup stuff, so...

1. Show in finder.
2. .m4a -> .m4r of the original song in the library folder
3. 2xClick, and Show Info shows the .m4r extension in iTunes now

Still nothing in the iPhone "ringtones".

Does it have to be a 30s song or something??
 
Maybe encoding bitrate or incompatible filename? You would think that there is some sort of commonality with the ones that won't sync. Are the ones not sync'ing from drm tracks? Just throwing these out there.

edit:Oh, are all the ringtones in your itunes folder? in the same subfolder?

Hmmmm... as I look at it more, maybe it is a size issue. The two that I have gotten to work are 590KB and and 377KB. The rest were 992KB or bigger. I'll play with it more and see if that seems to be it. (all Bitrates were the same and no drm - not sure about filename issues)

Thanks for the suggestions!
 
I can't get it.

On the Mac:

1. Show in finder.
2. .m4a -> .m4r of the original song in the library folder
3. 2xClick, and Show Info shows the .m4r extension in iTunes now

Still nothing in the iPhone "ringtones".

Does it have to be a 30s song or something??

After changing the file extention to .m4r, try removeing the song from the itunes library(just remove from library list, keep the file). Then double click the .m4r file in the finder window which should reload it into the itunes library. I had to do this to get them to show in the ringtone tab. I think itunes can't recognize the change in format unless the file is removed then reloaded into the library.
 
Wow this totally works (on Mac).

Now all I need is:


2. A site filled with great free NORMAL ringtones, for those of us who aren't 12 year old girls who want Justin Timberlake crooning whenever grandma calls. ;)

Good find, original poster!

I'm sure if you google sound effects, you'll have some luck finding things that could be a good normal ringtone. My favorite is the monster purr.
 
I was able to do it with Quicktime export with a non-protected song in my iTunes library. I changed the name and extension to .m4r and dragged the file back into iTunes. Synced the iPhone and there was my ringtone in the appropriate tab. The song I used and the resulting filesize was approaching 4 Mb. So, I guess I'll need to wait for iTunes' utility to select snippits of music. Or... I could use GarageBand to do the same... right?
 
I was able to do it with Quicktime export with a non-protected song in my iTunes library. I changed the name and extension to .m4r and dragged the file back into iTunes. Synced the iPhone and there was my ringtone in the appropriate tab. The song I used and the resulting filesize was approaching 4 Mb. So, I guess I'll need to wait for iTunes' utility to select snippits of music. Or... I could use GarageBand to do the same... right?
Garageband, Quicktime Pro (convert wav to aac from iTunes later), Audacity (free), Amadeus, Audition... or many others. Loads of choice.

~ CB
 
Well, we don't know what the contracts with the music labels say. But do you really think Apple would offer a feature that wasn't available to their own customers? Imagine if you could use any song as a ringtone on your iPhone... EXCEPT those purchased from Apple? There would be an outcry for sure.

I'm not totally sure what you mean. I don't think I ever said anything about Apple offering this feature for regular music and not iTunes purchased music.

The bigger question I had is more, what is the reason for not "officially" letting you turn your non-protected iTunes music into ringtones (i.e. stuff you have ripped from CD, etc.)?

It fully makes sense that Apple has to negotiate separate ringtone rights for the music actually sold through iTunes. What I'm not as clear on is why the ringtone functionality can't be extended to normal music (officially, again).

I assume it is something along the lines of Apple and/or the labels wanting to encourage people to buy ringtones, rather than making their own.

-Zadillo
 
I can't get it.

On the Mac:

1. Show in finder.
2. Duplicate
3. .mpa->.mpr
4. 2xClick back into iTunes

It's supposed to be "m4r" and also make sure you are changing the actual extension. Command-I to see the full filename with full extension.

arn
 
wow

thank you for the info, I just have one question? This imports the whole song as a ring tone correct? not just a little piece of it. and if it does can we somehow edit it on garage band? :cool:
 
Before you click Convert Selection to AAC you can go into the Get Info dialog box and under Options I believe there is a Start Time/End Time option. This is useful for trimming the specific part of the song you want. And when you convert it to AAC it'll truncate the new song to only that length then change the file extension. The only problem I'm finding is that I get this weird tick right before the ringtone starts on my phone. I've been having problems syncing for a few days now though so I'm gonna try restoring this thing and see what happens. Hopefully that ticking goes away. I've only tried one file as of yet so it could just be the file.
 
This works great... just one question though.

How do you remove a song from the Ringtones list once in iTunes.

deleting the file from /iTunes Music/Ringtones dosen't remove it from the list.

any info would be much appreciated.
 
Before you click Convert Selection to AAC you can go into the Get Info dialog box and under Options I believe there is a Start Time/End Time option. This is useful for trimming the specific part of the song you want. And when you convert it to AAC it'll truncate the new song to only that length then change the file extension. The only problem I'm finding is that I get this weird tick right before the ringtone starts on my phone. I've been having problems syncing for a few days now though so I'm gonna try restoring this thing and see what happens. Hopefully that ticking goes away. I've only tried one file as of yet so it could just be the file.
Brilliant. Here's my prediction. Tonight... someone... SOMEbody, is going to have an Applescript or Automator script to do pretty much everything we'd want on the Mac side of things, including clipping and iTunes import. My prediction. :) Drag and drop a collection of files onto a desktop icon. You mark my words.

~ CB
 
YES YES YES

it works!!

THANKS THANKS THANKS

goodbye iToner....

btw there is now a folder in my library that was automatically created by iTunes obviously called "Ringtones".
 
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