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That’s what it means, huh? There are no other possibilities you can think of? Like, oh, coincidence? Or priming?

My wife, who doesn’t use scents at all, got that ad the other day—I noticed it when she showed me a message my sister had sent her. My sister also doesn’t use any scents and the message didn’t contain any key words for such. It was just a random ad that came up in rotation.
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People believe the story, but not the reasoning. Coincidence does not imply causation.

Nah, I have never once seen an ad through Facebook that wasn’t targeted or based on a web search I had completed. For instance I was googling prepaid carriers a few weeks back, and instantly the same day every other ad in the Facebook app became prepaid carriers or phones. That’s understandable because I had googled it in another browser and that’s how ad tracking works.

In my 10+ years I’ve never seen a fragrance ad until that day, and it was the exact same scent I had been looking at. That is not coincidence. Even had the store name that I said out loud, Walmart.

This happened one other time at work when a coworker offered me a lesser-known brand of sparkling water. He’s a diabetic who prefers one brand of flavored water and that brand only. He asked if I wanted some (didn’t say the brand name). I had my phone out and was just using it on my lunch break to do whatever. I politely said no thanks. Later that evening, in Facebook, I was receiving ads for that exact flavored water company. Creepy stuff.
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It’s hard to talk about these instances without people thinking you’re crazy.

My friend had a similar experience with a Google Home.

Spent the evening with friends and were chatting about something they’d never spoken about before. It was something random like gaming PC keyboards. (He’s not a gamer). The next day he’s getting adverts for gaming keyboards on his Android phone.

It’s one of those stories that people just don’t believe!

Because people have this false sense of security all locked up, it’s irrational but they think “Well, that would be illegal, no apps could be doing that on my device!” But they do. Of course they do. If money is involved any type of privacy is always going to be off-limits IMO.

I’ve had many instances of the exact same thing you describe - I just posted another about a brand of water that was shown to me at work. Not even mentioned what brand it was but boom, that same day I was getting ads about it. The camera had to have been activated in order to find it. These companies ARE spying on us, lol, it really isn’t crazy at all to recognize it and be alarmed. There’s just nothing you can do though unless you want to give up your phone and disconnect from the internet entirely.
 
Nah, I have never once seen an ad through Facebook that wasn’t targeted or based on a web search I had completed. For instance I was googling prepaid carriers a few weeks back, and instantly the same day every other ad in the Facebook app became prepaid carriers or phones. That’s understandable because I had googled it in another browser and that’s how ad tracking works.

In my 10+ years I’ve never seen a fragrance ad until that day, and it was the exact same scent I had been looking at. That is not coincidence. Even had the store name that I said out loud, Walmart.

This happened one other time at work when a coworker offered me a lesser-known brand of sparkling water. He’s a diabetic who prefers one brand of flavored water and that brand only. He asked if I wanted some (didn’t say the brand name). I had my phone out and was just using it on my lunch break to do whatever. I politely said no thanks. Later that evening, in Facebook, I was receiving ads for that exact flavored water company. Creepy stuff.
No, not creepy. Coincidence. You’re primed to notice it. That’s a feature of all humans—so common and universal, in fact, that magicians the world over have been exploiting it for centuries. Could it also be a little technology? Sure, if you have location services on and you allow whatever particular app to track you it may know what kind of store you’re in and target those ads. But the rest is probably priming.
 
Obviously not. You can’t have two active VPN connections at the same time. The lockdown app will install a VPN profile just like a regular VPN app but just won’t mask your IP or route traffic through their servers.
Actually it depends on how you’re using 1.1.1.1. It’s an DNS, as well it’s an app. I have my router settings using 1.1.1.1 for my home wifi, so I’m always using Cloudflare DNS when I’m home. Otherwise whether that be another network or when your on mobile data you have to use the App to enable 1.1.1.1 which then you can’t use it in tandem with lockdown.
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Wait. I use CloudFlare's DNS. Does that mean I've been using a VPN all the time??? (I don't like using private VPNs by the way).
Lol no. A VPN and a DNS are two different things. You’ve only been using the VPN function although it’s not actually a VPN if you’re using the iOS 1.1.1.1 app, or this apps similar functions by utilizing iOS VPN function.
 
I'll make a quick suggestion to those who are having issues... cause I know this helps me when I'm programming my applications. But when you post, add what IOS version you are on and what device. I don't know if this particular programmer needs this information but I know it helps me a ton when updating if I see a trend in a certain IOS version or particular device. So far I've seen a couple minor issues that others have already mentioned such as facebook trackers, but I'm using Beta 4 IOS 13 on iPhone XS. Application looks extremely clean, love it!
 
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Awesome. I will ensure this is on the phone of every person I care about if the product is excellent and the company is legIt and ethical.

I wish this had a tip jar functionality to donate. It’s more reassuring to know there is some income coming in on the core product. I understand they intend to make money with a VPN offering, but it would be reassuring to know they core product makes money from customers too—a tip jar like Overcast or Pedometer++ can support a dev3loper.
 
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So this is like having Pihole on the go?

How easy is it to disable and enable? When I leave I sometimes VPN into my network to get ads blocked by my PiHole this would save a step.
 
... and it is better than NordVPN why????
Because it's not a VPN? ;)
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This is a really valuable capability, but I think I need more assurance that everything is and forever will be done on device than a statement in the privacy policy.
The privacy policy makes a clear statement and the source code is available. Not sure what other "assurance" they could offer?
 
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Someone explain to me what is wrong with a heavily regulated financial services business using Google Analytics to monitor traffic when they adhere to strict regulatory rules?

There should be MORE accountability online.
 
App has issues, but I do think any content blocker has issues, nobody has the same online surfing habits, one likes to block Google, the other one Apple, trillions of different possibilities, if not a lot more.

Blocked Facebook perfectly, sending pictures with WhatApp was difficult or impossible, however whatsapp messages seems to work, kinda odd.
 
Had to delete the app. Find my app in ios13 was blocked. I might try again after a few more updates.
 
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No, not creepy. Coincidence. You’re primed to notice it. That’s a feature of all humans—so common and universal, in fact, that magicians the world over have been exploiting it for centuries. Could it also be a little technology? Sure, if you have location services on and you allow whatever particular app to track you it may know what kind of store you’re in and target those ads. But the rest is probably priming.

I don’t know how to convince you to be more skeptical or that you’re wrong, but there have been too many instances of it happening to me in same-day circumstances, usually just hours later. It’s an actual thing, Snowden basically told us as much.
 
Sad. Its not compatible with AdGuard Pro, so i’ll skip this. I want to use both app side by side. Guardian firewall is compatible with AdGuard Pro... might stick with that.
 
This. The full VPN interface is too powerful to give access to for random purposes. We saw this problem with ad blockers in the past, and Apple provided a much more secure method to block content.

This is a really valuable capability, but I think I need more assurance that everything is and forever will be done on device than a statement in the privacy policy.
  1. Lockdown uses the VPN profile to redirect blocked addresses to localhost so the requests never leave the device. It's a great solution, similar to Little Snitch or editing your local /etc/hosts file.
  2. Apple's content blocker solution is extremely limited. Your warning about nefarious blockers is accurate but that's not the case here.
  3. It is open source; the codebase is public.
 
I don’t know how to convince you to be more skeptical or that you’re wrong, but there have been too many instances of it happening to me in same-day circumstances, usually just hours later. It’s an actual thing, Snowden basically told us as much.

Nice conspiracy theory but it's not true; you're missing the point of Snowden's revelations. Bluetooth beacons in stores, cell tower data, advertising trackers, priming, and trend prediction based on buying habits easily explain this. I'd be surprised if you didn't see [product advertisement] after visiting a physical location where the product is sold.

Products like Lockdown and reputable VPNs, like Nord or PIA, are a step in the right direction.
 
Nice conspiracy theory but it's not true; you're missing the point of Snowden's revelations. Bluetooth beacons in stores, cell tower data, advertising trackers, priming, and trend prediction based on buying habits easily explain this. I'd be surprised if you didn't see [product advertisement] after visiting a physical location where the product is sold.

Products like Lockdown and reputable VPNs, like Nord or PIA, are a step in the right direction.

I wasn’t in a Walmart, I was in a thrift store. I said out loud “I can find this cheaper at Walmart” and it happened to be a bottle of Curve in my hand. 4 hours later Facebook was showing me a Walmart ad for the exact same fragrance, a 15+ year old scent I never googled or searched anywhere on my device. Not the first time I’ve experienced that happening either.
 
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I don’t know how to convince you to be more skeptical or that you’re wrong, but there have been too many instances of it happening to me in same-day circumstances, usually just hours later. It’s an actual thing, Snowden basically told us as much.
And I don’t know how to convince you about Occam's Razor, nor that correlation does not equal causation, nor about Apple's security. Maybe you granted permission to the app to access your mic and camera and it’s doing just that, but then that wouldn’t be nefarious.

Funny, I don’t remember Snowden telling us that the government is feeding you Facebook ads, nor that Facebook has hired the government to access your mic and camera for them.
 
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