I love the notch to be honest, I think it gives him a distinct look lolTHEY STILL DIDN'T GET RID OF THAT UGLY NOTCH!!
I love the notch to be honest, I think it gives him a distinct look lolTHEY STILL DIDN'T GET RID OF THAT UGLY NOTCH!!
8GB my ass
Thought so too, but then I checked the prices. Had to buy one in August because my previous MBP was completely dead. Closest configuration now (lowest configuration 16" Max) is now €430 more expensive.If you bought a M2 MacBook Pro 9 months ago, I wouldn't feel too bad, but if you bought one after June, I would feel kinda scammed.
But you won't get it in Space Black.M2 pro will be greatly discounted and it’s a good time to buy.
Return it lol. Most places have a 30 day policy.Aw, damnit. I just bought a new 14” MBP two weeks ago.
Oh well.
Scary fast...They said late November but I just ordered a 16" M3 Max and it says it will deliver on November 7. Glitch?
Agreed. The notch could be a small punch hole and increase the critical real-estate on the menu bar. But then it wouldn't be recognizable as an Apple, it would look too much like a PC. Sadly my 2014 Intel MBP wasn't going to make it the notchless finish line, so I finally upgraded. I hear from reviews "you get used to it."
The Notch = The instant NO DEAL
Seriously why does Apple love ruining their beautiful screens with a notch?
I used the iPhone for years and never got used to the notch. Was going to get the iPhone 14 Pro to at least see if I could deal with the island, but when I went to the store they had a sale on the Galaxy S23 for $300 less. I decided to take a chance, and not having the notch was almost worth the change for that alone. Saves $300, no notch, under screen thumb sensor, and a lot more features. What I miss is the much better messages app on iPhone and using my iPhone for the Apple TV keyboard. Other than that I actually am liking the Samsung better. Since I could never get used to the iPhone notch I am guessing the same will be said for these laptops. Once my MacBook Pro 2016 goes out I will probably have to go with something windows based unless Apple changes the design. Who knows, maybe I will be pleasantly surprised like I was with the phone switch. The notch and base of 8GB of ram has just turned me offAgreed. The notch could be a small punch hole and increase the critical real-estate on the menu bar. But then it wouldn't be recognizable as an Apple, it would look too much like a PC. Sadly my 2014 Intel MBP wasn't going to make it the notchless finish line, so I finally upgraded. I hear from reviews "you get used to it."
So you have inside information on the M4 through M9 processors? Spill the beans, we all want to know.Article: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...less-memory-bandwidth-than-m1-m2-pro.2409344/
It sadly seems like Apple M3 is nerfed in different ways, so I decided to keep my solid old but gold M1 MacBook Air.
Also based on what I have read from performance tests, here is when it's worth considering buying a new Mac:
Apple M1 = Major performance boost, worth upgrading
Apple M2 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M3 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M4 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M5 = Major performance boost, worth upgrading
Apple M6 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M7 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M8 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M9 = Major performance boost, worth upgrading
Yes, that's every 4th Apple M version, so at maximum every 5 or 6 years. In other words,
save your money and time and spend it on your loved ones instead, no need to upgrade every year.
Also Apple should really stop with their obvious 2010 base model Mac specs, like 8 GB RAM/256 GB SSD in 2023 really Apple?
Take it easy, it’s just a kid.So you have inside information on the M4 through M9 processors? Spill the beans, we all want to know.
So you have inside information on the M4 through M9 processors? Spill the beans, we all want to know.
Well said. Until the notch is gone, and base RAM is at least 16GB, I am out on Apple. Agree about the SSD size as well, but I personally store most of my things on a NAS. So not as important to me, but understand others seeing this as an issue in 2023. Apple is basically forcing me to leave ☹️. Also, I am not a fan of the touch screen on laptops, but know many who are. They really need to have this feature as well in 2023. Even the most basic Windows laptop has it.Article: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...less-memory-bandwidth-than-m1-m2-pro.2409344/
It sadly seems like Apple M3 is nerfed in different ways, so I decided to keep my solid old but gold M1 MacBook Air.
Also based on what I have read from performance tests, here is when it's worth considering buying a new Mac:
Apple M1 = Major performance boost, worth upgrading
Apple M2 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M3 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M4 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M5 = Major performance boost, worth upgrading
Apple M6 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M7 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M8 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M9 = Major performance boost, worth upgrading
Yes, that's every 4th Apple M version, so at maximum every 5 or 6 years. In other words,
save your money and time and spend it on your loved ones instead, no need to upgrade every year.
Also Apple should really stop with their obvious 2010 base model Mac specs, like 8 GB RAM/256 GB SSD in 2023 really Apple?
Sorry this is just laughably false. You have three data points. You absolutely cannot make any future predictions about the upcoming releases.Just look at M1, M2, and M3. Compare all of them, then it's easy to see and predict the rest.
I just cancelled my order for the MBP M3. I have to upgrade before Apple will move away from the notch (it took 7 years to kill touchbar). But if i'm going to spend this much on a laptop with a feature I'm really unhappy about, I'm waiting for M3 Air. Once you add the appropriate 16gb RAM, the price jump is enough to wait six more months. Ugh. 🤦♂️I used the iPhone for years and never got used to the notch. Was going to get the iPhone 14 Pro to at least see if I could deal with the island, but when I went to the store they had a sale on the Galaxy S23 for $300 less. I decided to take a chance, and not having the notch was almost worth the change for that alone. Saves $300, no notch, under screen thumb sensor, and a lot more features. What I miss is the much better messages app on iPhone and using my iPhone for the Apple TV keyboard. Other than that I actually am liking the Samsung better. Since I could never get used to the iPhone notch I am guessing the same will be said for these laptops. Once my MacBook Pro 2016 goes out I will probably have to go with something windows based unless Apple changes the design. Who knows, maybe I will be pleasantly surprised like I was with the phone switch. The notch and base of 8GB of ram has just turned me off.
Article: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...less-memory-bandwidth-than-m1-m2-pro.2409344/
It sadly seems like Apple M3 is nerfed in different ways, so I decided to keep my solid old but gold M1 MacBook Air.
Also based on what I have read from performance tests, here is when it's worth considering buying a new Mac:
Apple M1 = Major performance boost, worth upgrading
Apple M2 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M3 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M4 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M5 = Major performance boost, worth upgrading
Apple M6 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M7 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M8 = Small performance boost, NOT worth upgrading
Apple M9 = Major performance boost, worth upgrading
Yes, that's every 4th Apple M version, so at maximum every 5 or 6 years. In other words,
save your money and time and spend it on your loved ones instead, no need to upgrade every year.
Also Apple should really stop with their obvious 2010 base model Mac specs, like 8 GB RAM/256 GB SSD in 2023 really Apple?
Being that the performance increases are better than Intel’s year-over-year performance gains, I am really not sure why anyone is complaining. They average, what, 5-7% performance boosts and we see 15-20% increases with each M series update? That’s basically double consistently. Why is anyone complaining?Just look at M1, M2, and M3. Compare all of them, then it's easy to see and predict the rest.
I ordered a tapped out M3 Max (except the SSD, I went with 2TB.) I’m coming from a 2011 MacBook Pro 17 inch. If it lasts as long as that one has, I’ll be ecstatic. My 17inch can barely pull up Chrome in 2023 and is stock on, Big Sur, I think? If not Monterey lolUpgrade every 5 or 6 years? That's a waste of money. Why do you think Apple nerfed M2 and now M3? The M1 Macs should be blazing fast for at least 99,99% of users for AT LEAST 10 YEARS.
My wife has an M1 MBP, I don’t even see or notice the notch 90% of the time. It’s in a spot that is under utilized and usually baron lol I thought I’d hate it just as much as you do.I just cancelled my order for the MBP M3. I have to upgrade before Apple will move away from the notch (it took 7 years to kill touchbar). But if i'm going to spend this much on a laptop with a feature I'm really unhappy about, I'm waiting for M3 Air. Once you add the appropriate 16gb RAM, the price jump is enough to wait six more months. Ugh. 🤦♂️
iPad Pro is a great touch screen laptop. I love it.Well said. Until the notch is gone, and base RAM is at least 16GB, I am out on Apple. Agree about the SSD size as well, but I personally store most of my things on a NAS. So not as important to me, but understand others seeing this as an issue in 2023. Apple is basically forcing me to leave ☹️. Also, I am not a fan of the touch screen on laptops, but know many who are. They really need to have this feature as well in 2023. Even the most basic Windows laptop has it.