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Haha, the bean counter ad is hilarious!

pretty funny but apple probably spends more money on advertising than MS does (but what do I know?).

Microsoft spends a mind-bogglingly large amount of money on advertising every year. They've earmarked $300-$500 million for Windows and image advertising this year:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1453

I think that's separate from the huge amount of advertising dollars spent on Office and other products. Anybody have info on Apple's budget?
 
Anybody have info on Apple's budget?

According to each company's quarterly statements, hare are the results for the last reported quarter which covered April-June 2008:

Apple spent 12% of net sales on "Selling, general, and administrative"
Microsoft spent 24% of net sales on "Sales and Marketing"

Apple spent 4% of net sales on "Research and development."
Microsoft spent 15% of net sales on "Research and Development."

Each of these areas are a specific as either one will get on advertising $$$.

Apple: "SG&A expenditures increased $170 million or 23% and $622 million or 29%, respectively, for the third quarter and the first nine months of 2008 compared to the same periods in 2007. These increases are due primarily to higher stock-based compensation expenses, higher variable selling expenses resulting from the significant year-over-year increase in total net sales and the Company’s continued expansion of its Retail segment in both domestic and international markets. In addition, the Company incurred higher spending on marketing and advertising during the first nine months of 2008 compared to the same period in 2007. "

Microsoft: "Sales and marketing expenses include payroll, employee benefits, stock-based compensation expense, and other headcount-related costs associated with sales and marketing personnel and advertising, promotions, trade shows, seminars, and other programs. Sales and marketing expenses increased during the three and twelve months ended June 30, 2008, reflecting increased headcount-related expenses and increased corporate marketing and advertising campaigns. Headcount-related expenses increased 17% during the three months and 14% during the twelve months ended June 30, 2008, reflecting an increase in headcount during the year."
 
Sorry, but what a pathetic post. :rolleyes:

I hope you were joking



amazing - really? They're just the same crap Apple have been doing for years, it stopped being funny a while back, and no one in the world cares anymore.

ow.. sorry that he had an opinion. and he probably, like many others still think they're funny.
 
I think the idea of these ads is getting old and tired. Earlier they were good, when they compared Mac and PC. Nowadays it's just Vista bashing and a little bit too arrogant for my taste.
 
Those MS ads were such BS, they said nothing about the product, all they said was “buy a PC because it's what everyone else has, including some celebrities”. And they were pointless anyway, because Macs are technically still PCs, they just don't run Windows out the box. Microsoft weren't even saying “Buy a Windows Vista Ultimate PC” let alone giving any compelling reasons to do so.

Apple's right to call them out, but rather than “leak” panic stricken internal e-mails, they instead they release two commercials which are actually quite amusing.

Steve Ballmer will be having puppies.
 
If Apple didn't do dumb things like removing firewire interfaces from its laptops then it would have reason to be cocky. But as it stands Apple is making some pretty dumb ass decisions of late as well.
 
hmmmm

i love these ads, get a mac,

but to be honest its now a waste of time with the lack of firewire and target disk mode on the macbook

i mean what is the point in buying a mac now.

Apple have shot themselves in both feet really

The macbook is now the new macbook air - good job apple for making the macbook smaller and now useless
 
Lame, the Microsoft ads are not about an operating system...so why bring Vista into this. This is Apple just being smartasses.

Microsoft could hit back with the same ad, big pile on advertising and small pile fixing iphone bugs.....my iphone crashed all the way thoguh the keynote last tuesday....not happy about it...and frankly after so many so called patches to fixe issues, this is complete BS for a company that prides itself on "it just works"

If I was in Microsoft, my next ad would be, "I'm a PC and I have firewire"
 
Funny ad. :D

If apple spent less $ on advertising maybe they could use the money they saved to put a DVD burner in the Mac mini...lol.

Less money? How much do you think that set costs?! :rolleyes:

If Apple didn't do dumb things like removing firewire interfaces from its laptops then it would have reason to be cocky. But as it stands Apple is making some pretty dumb ass decisions of late as well.

When was the last time you used that port? Apple stopped using the Firefire after the 4th Generation iPod.
 
I really like the Bean Counter ad as a piece of comedy, but I'm not sure it's really effective. Along the lines others have suggested, Apple spends a lot on advertising too. In fact, I can't help but think that many people who see this commercial will think to themselves "but Apple really has way more advertising presence than Microsoft does these days..."
 
If Apple didn't do dumb things like removing firewire interfaces from its laptops then it would have reason to be cocky. But as it stands Apple is making some pretty dumb ass decisions of late as well.

From a logical point of view, its pretty silly having two serial port standards.
One of them at some point has to die, unfortunately uptake of firewire was not sufficient enough to dominate.
I say blame the idiots who failed to adopt it, not apple.
 
Negative campaigning. If I were an investor, I would be asking serious questions as to why they're not advertising the benefits of OSX, instead of continuous pathetic jibes at Microsoft.

There is an ammount of arrogance and smugness that is measurable in megatons in these adverts - and it reflects the very worst of the Apple fanboy network. They need to shake free of it and extol the virtues of OSX to people who don't know what it is, rather than preaching to the converted with in-jokes and inter-marketting dept. squabbles.

Doug
 
I really like the Bean Counter ad as a piece of comedy, but I'm not sure it's really effective. Along the lines others have suggested, Apple spends a lot on advertising too. In fact, I can't help but think that many people who see this commercial will think to themselves "but Apple really has way more advertising presence than Microsoft does these days..."


I agree. It's like Apple saying "hey, we have flawless hardware and software, so we can put our extra money on advertising, but Microsoft isn't allowed to advertise". Surely OSX is much better than Vista, but Apple could also spend their advertising money wiser, how about making a quality control better?
 
The bean counters is rather ironic. Charging £1150 for a Macbook, putting a cheap display with piss-poor viewing angles in it, ripping out the firewire, not including the remote and charging another £70 to hook it up to a 30 inch display - THAT is bean counting.

Doug
 
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