except electronics prices, they always go down. or stay the same and you get more for your money every few months
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except electronics prices, they always go down. or stay the same and you get more for your money every few months
It costs HKD$5588 here and that is equivalent to USD$717
Why on earth should we pay USD$18 more when it's
1) TAX FREE
2) geographically closer to the factory (China)
3) and there's no apple store in the territory
I might get one if it's eligible for a free ipod touch, but it's not
Why on earth should we pay USD$18 more when it's
1) TAX FREE
2) geographically closer to the factory (China)
3) and there's no apple store in the territory
I might get one if it's eligible for a free ipod touch, but it's not
Should be fine. Unless your planning on running basics like print/mail/qt/web services. Our XServe at work only has 2GB RAM. And thats dealing with over 2 dozen MacPros.
OK, the Mini may not be a developer favorite, but WTH, the audience still would've loved this one.[/QUOTE]
That audience would have loved a turd on a platter if it had the Apple logo on it.
Come to think of it, this "new" mini comes close.....
That audience would have loved a turd on a platter if it had the Apple logo on it.
Come to think of it, this "new" mini comes close.....
The prices in EU are ridiculous ...
http://store.apple.com/de/browse/home/shop_mac/family/mac_mini
809,00 (with VAT) for the news 2,4 GHz base model.
Here, where I live, the price will have even a bigger increase, that means about 80-90 plus.
The base 2009 model (2,26 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 160 GB HDD) was 520 (incl. VAT) in some stores in Germany.
Do tell me, is the new case really that much worth?
http://store.apple.com/de/browse/home/shop_mac/family/mac_mini
809,00 (with VAT) for the news 2,4 GHz base model.
Here, where I live, the price will have even a bigger increase, that means about 80-90 plus.
The base 2009 model (2,26 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 160 GB HDD) was 520 (incl. VAT) in some stores in Germany.
Do tell me, is the new case really that much worth?
store is down again
are they adding one thing at a time or what?
mini first
then iphone pre orders
what now?
are they adding one thing at a time or what?
mini first
then iphone pre orders
what now?
Sweet little machine but price is definitely wrong in Europe. At 799, it is "only" 300 cheaper than the base iMac, which has a larger and faster hdd, a faster CPU, faster graphics, a 21" screen, a mouse and a keyboard.
I know the iMac has always been a better deal than the mini, but the mini really ought to be much closer to 500.
I know the iMac has always been a better deal than the mini, but the mini really ought to be much closer to 500.
Indeed.
If you're in the market for a new monitor, wait for the iMac updates.
Otherwise, you're out of luck. There's no Mac Medium that uses 3.5" hard drives, can use a Core i5, and a discrete GPU.
Another factor in the cost is that Intel isn't dropping the prices of their CPUs, and has a high markup on the lower wattage variants. I'm sure Apple could trim $100 off by using a dual core Pentium at a lower speed, but they wouldn't lower themselves to that.
True, but they pulled the same price hike in European countries that use neither the Euro nor the Pound. The Swedish Krona is doing fine, Sweden has handled the crisis better than any other EU country. One USD is worth 7.87 SEK which is average and way, way below the 14 SEK it was worth during the Clinton days.Considering the UK pound has dropped double it's value in the last 2 years, I guess it's pretty fair.
Maybe you guys should switch to the EURO ? Oh wait...
Sweden is being penalized for the sad state of Greece, UK etc because Apple doesn't sell directly to Sweden (or Denmark and Norway, also with their own currencies), it sells to Scandinavia via the Netherlands.
Is Canada punished when the USD is doing poorly? Like "meh, they're North Americans, it's all the same to us so hit them with the price hike as well!"...?
So it is $100 more expensive then the prior cheaper model. But notice something.
1. Only one base model now with higher specs, instead of 2 (I am not including the server here). you just choose the components.
2. HDMI, card slot (although being on the back may be a litte awkward if you were to use it heavily), faster graphics, larger processor, larger hard drive as standard.
3. Includes the HDMI to DVI adapter, instead of having to buy one.
4. you can now upgrade your own memory up to 8gb
5. They kept firewire (something people on this site complain about heavily)
6. Someone on this post said they cut out one of the USB ports? Picture on Apple's site shows 4 and my wife's 2008 mac mini has 4.
Can't wait for the store to be back up (if you click on anything to order, it still says we will be back soon) so I can see what it will be BTO.
Of course the only thing I worry about with a device that small is everything being crammed in, thus cutting the air flow. Would be worried about heat. Of course if it had SSD drives then the heat would be lower. I guess you can always get a netbook cooling bad and stick it on top of one. I keep my macbook (now a desktop thanks to my ipad) on top of a cooling bad and it never feels warm. Just make sure your fans blow upward. I had one that sucked downward and it did nothing for keeping the machine cool...
1. Only one base model now with higher specs, instead of 2 (I am not including the server here). you just choose the components.
2. HDMI, card slot (although being on the back may be a litte awkward if you were to use it heavily), faster graphics, larger processor, larger hard drive as standard.
3. Includes the HDMI to DVI adapter, instead of having to buy one.
4. you can now upgrade your own memory up to 8gb
5. They kept firewire (something people on this site complain about heavily)
6. Someone on this post said they cut out one of the USB ports?
Picture on Apple's site shows 4 and my wife's 2008 mac mini has 4.Can't wait for the store to be back up (if you click on anything to order, it still says we will be back soon) so I can see what it will be BTO.
Of course the only thing I worry about with a device that small is everything being crammed in, thus cutting the air flow. Would be worried about heat. Of course if it had SSD drives then the heat would be lower. I guess you can always get a netbook cooling bad and stick it on top of one. I keep my macbook (now a desktop thanks to my ipad) on top of a cooling bad and it never feels warm. Just make sure your fans blow upward. I had one that sucked downward and it did nothing for keeping the machine cool...
really... $18 compared to what the EU folks pay...
oh, for those of you wanting the older model instead, keep an eye on the refurb page.
Store went back down again....odd.
Anyway, I do agree slightly that the new Mac Mini pricing is kind of absurd. You only need $300 more for portability essentially (white UMB). Yes, you get the whole sweet form factor and what not, but does a new graphics card and a much smaller form factor really entail $100 increase? If there were 4GB of RAM in the base model then I wouldn't be complaining a single bit (even though the new MBP 13 had the same RAM increase in its base model and stayed the same price).
Also think about it this way...if it was still 599 it would've possibly made people confused about iPad vs. Mini. Yes, I know, Apples vs. Oranges (no pun intended), but really if people thought they only had to spend $100 more for a fully functioning computer, they would at least wonder if the iPad was worth it.
As for Blu-Ray...I'm a mixed bag about it. I personally don't care THAT much about video fidelity (if that's the right word, if not just pretend I used the word "quality"), but also it's not like we're seeing Blu Ray as the new standard on ALL desktops and laptops, no? At the Mac Mini's price range, I understand the lack of Blu-Ray. Also, people seem to increasingly be switching to any sort of VOD (video on demand). It may not be the iTunes store, but people are loving Netflix left and right.
Also, look at comparable nettops from Asus. Asus's has a discrete graphics card, but still an Atom dual core processor, at about $400 w/DVD drive (source: http://netbooked.net/deals/deal/asus-eee-box-eb1501-nettop-437-1-shipping/). The Mac Mini has probably a better graphics card (in some respects not others) + Mac OS X + HD space. Yes there's a little bit of an "Apple tax" if you will, but that's always to be expected. And yes, there are better nettops coming out admittedly with USB 3.0 and such...but in all honesty, the device market for USB 3.0 is practically nonexistent and personally I'm content with USB 2 speeds. Faster's better, but fast is OK too.
As for conversion rates to the Euro and the Pound...that just sucks. No arguing against that.
Anyway, I do agree slightly that the new Mac Mini pricing is kind of absurd. You only need $300 more for portability essentially (white UMB). Yes, you get the whole sweet form factor and what not, but does a new graphics card and a much smaller form factor really entail $100 increase? If there were 4GB of RAM in the base model then I wouldn't be complaining a single bit (even though the new MBP 13 had the same RAM increase in its base model and stayed the same price).
Also think about it this way...if it was still 599 it would've possibly made people confused about iPad vs. Mini. Yes, I know, Apples vs. Oranges (no pun intended), but really if people thought they only had to spend $100 more for a fully functioning computer, they would at least wonder if the iPad was worth it.
As for Blu-Ray...I'm a mixed bag about it. I personally don't care THAT much about video fidelity (if that's the right word, if not just pretend I used the word "quality"), but also it's not like we're seeing Blu Ray as the new standard on ALL desktops and laptops, no? At the Mac Mini's price range, I understand the lack of Blu-Ray. Also, people seem to increasingly be switching to any sort of VOD (video on demand). It may not be the iTunes store, but people are loving Netflix left and right.
Also, look at comparable nettops from Asus. Asus's has a discrete graphics card, but still an Atom dual core processor, at about $400 w/DVD drive (source: http://netbooked.net/deals/deal/asus-eee-box-eb1501-nettop-437-1-shipping/). The Mac Mini has probably a better graphics card (in some respects not others) + Mac OS X + HD space. Yes there's a little bit of an "Apple tax" if you will, but that's always to be expected. And yes, there are better nettops coming out admittedly with USB 3.0 and such...but in all honesty, the device market for USB 3.0 is practically nonexistent and personally I'm content with USB 2 speeds. Faster's better, but fast is OK too.
As for conversion rates to the Euro and the Pound...that just sucks. No arguing against that.
Depends entirely if you're happy to use the glossy screens Apple love so much. I doubt Apple will introduce an Anti Glare iMac. Actually surprised the new Mac Mini wasn't built with a pointless glass top.
First the price has gone up, so it isn't the same price. And not just on the mini this time. Pretty much all their models have gone up in price from what they once were.
Second, with everyone else you get better specs for less.
Just pointing out the facts, not criticizing. Apple's business model is working great for them.
I agree with that, I was merely pointing out all the potential ways that a product could incur higher cost for one country over another. i wasn't stating which one was the culprit. Unless Speedy2 has proof that Apple is "raping" everyone but the US it's just BS and bellyaching.