New Mac OS X 10.5 (9A283) Leopard Seed

[Applespider]

Have you actually used the Vista RC builds? Hardly half-assed.

In any event, this will probably mean that in January that Vista will be a pretty solid system. Microsoft will be able to find and fix issues found during the business rollout, so that the January release can be "service pack 1", or at least contain a patch rollup.

While I don't doubt that in Jan it will be relatively solid and that both MS and Apple both update new OS's relatively soon afterwards, I do doubt your optimism on the the business launch. Generik's point on the timing allowing MS to say that they met their license obligations is more likely.

The majority of businesses aren't going to be implementing Vista this year. For many, it's the peak of their year's trade and their IT embargos are probably already a week or so away. No way any new OS is going into those environments. Aside from that, Windows is so pervasive and in major companies, so customised, that it's going to take a while for IT to test that the final build does actually work and doesn't have the security holes. Until late 2003, our company was routinely wiping XP from newly purchased PCs and loading Windows NT. It's only in the past year that a small majority of machines in the office are running XP

 

[AidenShaw]

While I don't doubt that in Jan it will be relatively solid and that both MS and Apple both update new OS's relatively soon afterwards, I do doubt your optimism on the the business launch. Generik's point on the timing allowing MS to say that they met their license obligations is more likely.

I'm sure MS had some contract issues, but they also probably welcome the "slow start" and the opportunity to find and fix odd configuration and other issues before the full scale launch.

However, when I look at the number of people in my development team who are already running Vista on their home and office systems, I suspect that there will be millions of Vista users before the "consumer" shipment in January. I know that we can buy "business" machines on our employee purchase programs, and our Vista volume license agreement will let us install it on any capable machine that we want....

The majority of businesses aren't going to be implementing Vista this year ... Until late 2003, our company was routinely wiping XP from newly purchased PCs and loading Windows NT.

No argument here - IT departments are notoriously conservative, and often for good reasons.

We'll see how it comes out, but Vista's improved security and manageability over XP/W2K does offer a little more incentive for an IT department to deploy Vista than the corresponding XP upgrade.

In any event, I think that the two-stage release of Vista will make the consumer release in January a less traumatic event .

Whether you want to call the business release "RC3" or to call the consumer release "SP1", the January release will benefit from the additional configuration testing.

 

[Catfish_Man]

I have a feeling Leopard will blow everyone away with all the cool features. But most of all everyone is forgeting that it will be the first true 64bit OS. It will unlease the potential many only dreamed of in applications.

Um... no. Everything except for the first sentence is just wrong, and the first sentence is possibly doubtful.

 

[AidenShaw]

how about?

Um... no. Everything except for the first sentence is just wrong, and the first sentence is possibly doubtful.

How about "it will be the closest yet to a true 64-bit Mac OS"?

That's probably a safe claim....

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I saw a shot of the new iCal interface. Doesn't look like there's new features or anything, just looks different. I don't like it. They moved off brushed metal to a plastic look, like iTunes but lighter.

 

[amnesiak]

where did u see it?

 

[Chris Grande]

Here is a screenshot of the new iCal, I found the image on InsanelyMac.

http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1wp6.png

 

[Adurbe]

so they moved the month ans search to the top...

not as bif an overhall as i was expecting but then again, dunno what iwas expecting

 

[Platform]

so they moved the month ans search to the top...

not as bif an overhall as i was expecting but then again, dunno what iwas expecting

I thought it looked a lot more OS X 10.4/5...the current one looks like 10.2...

 

[Adurbe]

I thought it looked a lot more OS X 10.4/5...the current one looks like 10.2...

as long as it still works and doesnt slow the system to much, it can look 10.1 for all i care

 

[a456]

is there somewhere in vegas a bet going who's first? vista or leopard? and who has more bugs at release day?

I think the greater impact would occur if Apple released its product just after Vista amid the confusion of people wondering which version of the MS OS to buy. People procrastinating could then finally realize that the much simpler option is to buy a Mac and not be confronted with not only the question of which make and model to stretch their hard earned money on, but also which version of the Vista OS they want with that, and whether it will actually run satisfactorily on the computer they are buying.

I know that I for one would not be want to be faced with yet another PC owner's dilemma. Thank goodness I run a Mac.

 

[xUKHCx]

If this is indeed the new iCal i will be happy, just open up the old ical next to that picture then you will see what i mean.

 

[Chimera]

so they moved the month ans search to the top...

not as bif an overhall as i was expecting but then again, dunno what iwas expecting

I think its clear that this won't be what the final version will look like, the day/week/month button writing is completely uncentralized, I imagine this is just an interim before they unveil a new type of button design, or maybe more, at MWSF.

 

[sunfast]

Here is a screenshot of the new iCal, I found the image on InsanelyMac.

http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1wp6.png

looks like an improvement

 

[Foggy]

If this is indeed the new iCal i will be happy, just open up the old ical next to that picture then you will see what i mean.

Other than the movement of the search, day/week/month buttons and a move from the brushed metal to a more even grey I cant really see any differences....I am however basing this off screenshots on the Apple site as I dont have my MBP here atm.

 

[BWhaler]

If this is indeed the new iCal i will be happy, just open up the old ical next to that picture then you will see what i mean.

Funny, I had the opposite reaction.

Sure, it's cleaner. But for me, it just showed that once again, iCal is an anemic upgrade and missing the basic features that every calendaring program has had since 1992.

 

[mark88]

looks like an improvement

Look at the bottom bar, usually that's where the pinstripe would be in Tiger. I guess Leopard is saying bye bye to pinstripe window backgrounds.

 

[Pallish]

Does anyone know if Multithreaded Open GL for PPC is enabled in this build of Leopard?