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Wow! I don't know how you can say this!
The quality difference between Blu-ray and DVD is huge. If I play a conventional DVD movie and up convert it to 1080p, it looks smeary with numerous artifacts on a 60" HD Plasma TV. The Blu-ray cut of the same flick is incredible! Color, sound, resolution, lack of motion artifacts are all better plus Dolby Digital 6.1 surround is FANTASTIC.
Sales of blu-ray discs and players have been very swift and the adoption is near the same rate as DVD was when it was first released. Have you even gone to blu-ray.com to see how many titles are now available and how many more are coming every week? Almost every new movie is being simultaneously released on DVD and blu-ray.
Of course the buzz is ho-hum on Apple boards because Apple hasn't released blu-ray support yet. But they will. Most likely 10.5.6 with player/recorders released for the Mac Pro at a minimum. I wouldn't be surprised if it was also incorporated into an AppleTV media center.
Why is every one keep talking about Blu-ray so much?
I am not either against it or for it. I am neutral against it but it would be "nice" to have it, I have to admit. If Apple does not add Blu-ray, I would not care that much for their choice. What ever happens, happens for a reason.
I am not either against it or for it. I am neutral against it but it would be "nice" to have it, I have to admit. If Apple does not add Blu-ray, I would not care that much for their choice. What ever happens, happens for a reason.
im with ya ... But is it that unimaginable that we could still distribute applications on memory cards if need be? I mean, the music industry is trying to use it as a standard medium now ... Cant software developers take the same approach?
People have an amazing inability to ignore what they're reading. I said the AVERAGE consumer. Does average joe have a 60" HD plasma TV? No. I believe you that the quality difference is huge. I've seen it myself, it's a noticeable difference. But for the everyman who doesn't know anything about the difference between 480P and 1080P, they're not going to upgrade based on DD 6.1 and a higher resolution. I'm also very well aware of the amount of Blu Ray releases, in fact, I was looking through them the other day. Just because companies have adopted doesn't mean consumers do. The problem with this "astounding Blu Ray adoption rate" is that Blu Ray player sales INCLUDE the PS3. Sony are pretty slippery business people, and they pull **** like that all the time. If you can find the amount of Blu Ray players sold, and subtract the amount of PS3s sold, I think it would be a VERY interesting figure. Most of the people I know with PS3s have absolutely zero interest in Blu Ray. They're of the opinion that their DVDs are still good enough. And I will be too until Blu Ray players are at a reasonable price point along with the discs. Sopranos seasons have always gone at a high price, yet Sopranos on Blu Ray is $100? That's absurd. At that price I could buy a decent upscale player and the same set on DVD. So, for now, Blu Ray is a niche market, even for those people who are aware of the advantages.
Well... with the US economy, I expect the adoption of BR to slow down lol...
Hard to tell. The Entertainment industry fared extremely well during the great depression.
People like to be taken away with fantasy to forget the crap of losing thousands of dollars each day in the market. HD movies on a big screen TV with surround sound is just the trick to duplicate the movie house experience.
Agree. But I think this applies to more than those who have PS3 systems.
Take your average customer who already has a DVD collection. They've already spent the funds on their TV/receiver, speaker system, and of course DVD player. For most, they would need new equipment to take advantage of what BluRay as to offer. So probably a new TV/Receiver and BluRay player. And maybe a new speaker system. Plus, if they don't want to have both players, they would need to purchase replacements for their DVD collection. This all adds up to a large sum. These folks aren't so easily swayed to the new technology due to the cost of upgrading.
Depending on their age, they may have already gone through the Betamax vs. VHS and the Laserdisc era which makes them even more cautious of new technologies.
For those starting out from scratch, BluRay makes sense if they have the funds and want the quality.
Then again, for the classics such as Casablanca, would BluRay or even DVD make it a better viewing experience? Probably not.
For me, I'll wait a while until BluRay costs the same or cheaper than DVD before I jump. I started out when CD players cost $1,500 so I've done my share to help the market.
This thread has become really tense.
I'd say none of us are quite as idea-ready as Apple's consultants. It's no use to get hot and argue over speculation that has no deep impact.
I'd say none of us are quite as idea-ready as Apple's consultants. It's no use to get hot and argue over speculation that has no deep impact.
Well we will have to agree to disagree. Your gauge of the average consumer is much lower than my gauge of the average consumer. Most of the population in the US is middle aged with a fair amount of disposable income.
HD TV's have come way, way down in price. Now a good quality 1080p TV can be had for under $1500.00. Blu-ray players should be available this christmas for less than $250.00. Most blu-ray titles only run $3-$5 more than the DVD equivalent. Before long blu-ray titles will be equivalent in price to DVD and players will be available for under $100.00.
Apple doesn't sell any computer hardware for less than the equivalent DELL and yet Apple's market share has increased dramatically.
Besides you have to remember that in Feb. all analog tv will go bye-bye. This will be a big incentive for consumers to buy new digital HD TVs.
Today in the news...
SOME THING HAPPENED.
Then,
WE TALKED ABOUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN.
Imagine how many new MBP's I could buy with $700,000,000,000. I mean, since we've apparrently got that to blow, we might as well.
SOME THING HAPPENED.
Then,
WE TALKED ABOUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN.
Imagine how many new MBP's I could buy with $700,000,000,000. I mean, since we've apparrently got that to blow, we might as well.
dumbest move ever! lol
Ok of all the dumbest things to sneak out of a photo, the thing you should've done is remove the store number on the left side, 602 = Eglinton & Laird in TORONTO. tsk tsk. the "Anonymous" person has been targeted ... lol
Ok of all the dumbest things to sneak out of a photo, the thing you should've done is remove the store number on the left side, 602 = Eglinton & Laird in TORONTO. tsk tsk. the "Anonymous" person has been targeted ... lol
That's true, but nobody seems to care. It's not $1000+ different (((Just realised, I'm Australian... It's $1000 or more here, not sure about the US but I imagine it's similar))). Plus, when you factor in that you *need* a new, or need to have purchased a TV recently to view it... Bleh. And don't forget buying EVERYTHING you own again on Blu-Ray instead of DVDs!
I'm not flaming, I'm just saying that most people pushing the next-gen formats are prosumers and those who need it for professional use. I don't think Blu-Ray has caught on as fast as DVDs at all and frankly I believe the difference between a video tape and a DVD to be *far* greater than the jump between a DVD and Blu-Ray.
Regardless, I'd love to see Blu-Ray in a Mac because I'm not shelling out for a standalone player at this point. I just don't think the demand is there. Even being on this forum probably puts us in a position of being more in-the-know tech wise than most people. I don't think 'the public' wants Blu-Ray as much as we do!
You dont need to. your current colection will work on the blu-ray player. it will just enhance it from anywhere between 30-50%. you can then go on and buy blu-ray discs or slowly work on replacing your favorite ones....
Well everything I have read has said that Blu-ray adoption has been equal to DVD adoption over VHS.
People forget how much DVD players and movies cost when they were first introduced. VHS owners also had huge movie collections and thought that VHS was good enough.They didn't want to reinvest in new movies, equipment, etc.
By the way, most blu-ray players will play standard DVD as well and up convert it to 1080p HD much better than most HD TVs do.
Thank you.
People just don't understand Blu-Ray. It's not something they're familiar with; something that is spoon-fed to them so they shut it out; disregard it.
Blu-Ray movies are absolutely amazing. You will not find a better cinematic experience in the home than what Blu-Ray can provide right now. I could never go back to watching a standard DVD copy of a movie I have on Blu. It spoils you.
Yes that must be it *wink* *nod* *smile*.
It's not that we see it, it's features, potential and go "that's fine, but not until it's cheaper, has a bigger library, more features or whatever else". It's that we are silly kids blocking out anything that isn't "spoon-fed" to us...
Spoon-fed? Come on, what are you even talking about. Who is spoon feeding us normally? Media companies such as Sony? Because last time I checked, they WERE shoving this tech down our throat at every opportunity.
I feel like I'm in AVSforums... I have ~100 Bluray movies depending on how you count box sets. On average I pay ~$10-13 per disc. You just have to not run out and buy them at BB or something on release day and look for the sales. But most people don't know that and while I think that's sad I know they could put in the leg work to learn about it.....
Bluray has made my friends leave the theater and tell me that my movies on Bluray look better than what we just watched. The digital theaters around here are alright but not perfect.
Why have we began to discuss this in this thread? Apple isn't putting BD-R drives in the new anything.... maybe as an option for the Pro.
Bluray has made my friends leave the theater and tell me that my movies on Bluray look better than what we just watched. The digital theaters around here are alright but not perfect.
Why have we began to discuss this in this thread? Apple isn't putting BD-R drives in the new anything.... maybe as an option for the Pro.
This conversation is getting really weird. It's like the cult of bluentology or something, as if it's some kind of religious experience...
All i have to say is screw the everyday consumer.... I love my blu-ray player and my plasma and my surround sound... dvds suck.. If ur complaining bout bluray you probally dont have so go buy the whole media system to enjoy it if you dont have enough money to do so then it sucks to be you..haha
During the great depression, people scraped together pennies (they needed about 27 of them) to be able to sit in a cinema that could offer them an escape from their dismal reality for an hour or so. The rest of the time most of them were waiting in lines, for bread, sugar rations, or for a chance to do some menial labor for the government.
And you think people in a modern depression would be able to watch HD movies from Blu-Ray drives on big screen TVs with surround sound?
Please tell me you're joking.
