Seems like it was a mistake or something....
Checked again and they removed the 12 core price and changed it back to the 09 pricing.
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Seems like it was a mistake or something....
Checked again and they removed the 12 core price and changed it back to the 09 pricing.
I was hoping for aluminium main body with black glass sides incorporating an illuminated apple logo.
A design that if materialised would have been seen as predictable but then that's the hole point of group product design identity.
Yeah, those 12-core prices are totally ridiculous, especially in the UK. Not a chance that I'll be upgrading to this.
It *may* work, but there's a slim chance.
The official 4870 upgrade card works in the 1,1 Mac Pro, but is not supported by Apple to run in that machine. It probably has a hybrid 32/64 bit EFI.
It's possible they may do the same with the Mac 5770/5870, but no guarantees.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
No more then your post 🙄
My point was more about spending a lot of money and not really getting anything markedly different then the prior generation, unless you go up to the 12 core, but then you'll have to mortgage your house to get that one.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
That would be a killer machine. I have a mini and would love to see something other then a C2D inside it.
The 3GB ram is Apple's way of saying you will pull all the ram and put your own ram in. However, this also means that you have to throw more money at the box before it's ready to use. Therefore, the $2500 starting price is a on the high side and it's more like $3000 before you're ready to go.
1TB main drive standard? 2TB drives are pretty common and cheap now?
No e-Sata is also highly unfortunate, ESPECIALLY considering how EASY and CHEAP it would be to implement.
No USB 3? When these machines will not be upgraded for another 5 years? Not too forward thinking there.
They just really don't put the Pro in Pro anymore. If you have to have one of these machines fine, but, clearly, this is not a growth segment for Apple and they barely even try to make it exciting anymore.
You might as well just buy the previous gen as a refurb.
I have a new MBP but do all my HD editing and heavy After Effects on a home built Windows 7 machine. 2.66 i7 and 12GB of ram for $1250 about 10 months ago. Final Cut Pro is not even that compelling anymore.
iApple is how it is now. Content creators may need to start looking elsewhere.
1TB main drive standard? 2TB drives are pretty common and cheap now?
No e-Sata is also highly unfortunate, ESPECIALLY considering how EASY and CHEAP it would be to implement.
No USB 3? When these machines will not be upgraded for another 5 years? Not too forward thinking there.
They just really don't put the Pro in Pro anymore. If you have to have one of these machines fine, but, clearly, this is not a growth segment for Apple and they barely even try to make it exciting anymore.
You might as well just buy the previous gen as a refurb.
I have a new MBP but do all my HD editing and heavy After Effects on a home built Windows 7 machine. 2.66 i7 and 12GB of ram for $1250 about 10 months ago. Final Cut Pro is not even that compelling anymore.
iApple is how it is now. Content creators may need to start looking elsewhere.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
Agreed, I don't get what apple is trying to accomplish with a minor update, which is ok, provided if they update the macpro frequently, however they don't do that. Why not make the few updates the MP get a little more substantive.
Does anyone want to guess how much the 6-Core: 3.33GHz Intel Xeon will cost in the UK?
Also how much RAM this machine cope with?
Also how much RAM this machine cope with?
Umbongo
macrumors 601
£2,999. The system can have 32GB if you use 8GB DIMMs, how much you actually need depends on your requirements. 6GB, 8GB, 12GB, 16GB, 24GB, 32GB are all suitable amounts for the processor to work with.
xgman
macrumors 603
I agree with some other post that when you really think about it, the entire batch of updates today with the exception of the tracpad were simply the bare minimum to qualify as updates to the imac and mac pro lines. Apple doesn't seem to want to innovate with desktops as they have with mobile devices. That is the plain and simple truth.
Well 16gb should be enough to start with but would like the option of upgrading in the future.
So if I get 2 X 8GB DIMMS, I could add two more at a later date?
Umbongo
macrumors 601
You can yes, but they are more expensive per GB than other capacity sizes. 16GB is a huge amount of memory by the way, maybe you already know you need that much or budget doesn't matter, but if you are unsure get a lower amount, like 8GB (4x2) which is much more affordable and then monitor memory usage to make a more informed decision.
Yea I really did use all 16gb in my imac (before it died), so would like the option of adding more.
It's the music romplers that take up the room, some of the patches in the Omnisphere load 2gig of samples up just like that and I like to run lots of them!
I had a budget of £8,000 for a MP system which had to include two 30" screens. Even at that the system wouldn't have been a completely maxed out MP spec.
Realistically though we never get a true exchange rate reflection on the price from the US prices. The track pad in the states is $69 which according to xe currency exchange is £45.41 yet the track pad is going to cost £59 from apple.
So we're being shafted to the tune of £13.59
I'd guess that a similar shafting will be received from the pricing of the Mac Pro.
Either way it's going to be the cost of a small car for a full spec machine.
I may well start a thread 'What else could be bought for the price of a Mac Pro.
I reckon so based on the current price comparison. Curious about the 6 core though.
The UK site now says 'Coming August' rather than soon, which is nice...
Add VAT to that £45 and you're on about 53 quid. The $69 doesn't include US sales tax either, which can vary from state to state. 10% tax would make the prices about equal.
Add VAT to that £45 and you're on about 53 quid. The $69 doesn't include US sales tax either, which can vary from state to state. 10% tax would make the prices about equal.
It's closer alright assuming the 10% US sales tax (although a quick check on the USA sales tax website seems to average about 4% lowest was nil highest is around 8.5%) but if 10% then it still only makes it eqv £49.96 including 10% US sales tax vs £59 retail. 10 quid may not be something to grumble about but multiply that by Mac Pro pricing factor and it soon becomes more than a few quid.
The US tax included price seems to be pretty close to the uk vat excluded price based on current exchange rates.
You weren't the only one... 😀 😛
The price hike on the base Octad is a bit lousy IMO (I just can't see the GPU card pushing it that much, as the CPU cost is $373 per).
Well, the current 2009 3.33GHz Quad is technically capable of utilizing 1333MHz RAM, but the firmware is limited to 1066MHz. As not all of the new parts are capable of 1333MHz, that limitation may still exist.
We'd need to wait and see if Apple offers it. If not, then a Guinea Pig to find out definitively. 😉
Yes. Intel designs their Tick Tock cycle to work that way (same socket and chipset used for 2x years, so all that's needed to get the die shrink parts to work, is updated firmware).
Given Apple's lack of interest in Crossfire, I doubt it, as it's a dual processor model. 🙁
IIRC, there was a statement that ATI products will continue to be EBC based cards that will work in both. Assuming this is the case, there are limitations in terms of GPGPU computations (EFI32 is only good for single precision), but they'd display an image.
Hopefully, this will prove to still be the case. But ultimately, I do expect someone will test it anyway (too tempting not to), and reveal the results here. 😛
Umbongo
macrumors 601
If you look at the tech page they clearly indicate that 1333MHz is going to be available. Yeah the price rises are lousy, but obviously even at these prices they were successful for Apple.
Yeah, I stumbled on the MP page a little late... (expected the 1333Mhz aspect would have been mentioned on the front page article here on MR). 😱
Glad to see they fixed this, though its a small consolation, particularly as most user's won't notice the difference anyway (presuming true n core SMP applications won't dominate the workload).
What I'm hoping with the $200 increase in the Octad is to give it more separation from the Hex core SP model (3.33GHz). Assuming this is the case, and they don't go crazy over the price of that system (i.e. keep it at the same cost or similar to the current 3.33GHz Quad), it will become a "sweet spot" in the lineup. 😉