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Interesting that a product assembled in and shipped from China, costs a UK buyer £2,000 more for the base Mac Pro and XDR Display (with stand) than it does for a US customer.

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That is just untrue. A base Mac Pro is £5,499, an XDR is £4,599 and the stand is £949. So £11,047 including VAT or £9205.83 excluding VAT. In the US, a base Mac Pro is $5,999, an XDR is $4,999 and the stand is $999. So $11,997 excluding sales tax, which is £8,993.07 meaning that the difference in cost is £212.76 or 2.3%, which is more in line with the small extra profit margin Apple usually adds for markets outside of the US in order to factor in currency value fluctuations.

I would be very surprised if any person in the market for a Mac Pro, nay, any grown up in the UK, would struggle to understand the concepts of sales tax or VAT so it seems you are just out to complain and be negative for no apparent reason.
 
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And this so-called “pro” computer can’t even play RE2 remake or RDR2. Can’t even use it to stream my Twitch show. My gaming rig DESTROYS this pathetic excuse for a computer.

...you have a gaming computer with a processor that beats an octa-core xeon and more than 32gb of RAM? and you had a need for purchasing ECC ram? (i really dont think so.)

whoa there daddy warbucks, you got completely taken for a run at checkout because not only are those specs unnecessary, anything more than that is wasted space.

something you missed along the way when you badgered some poor friend of yours to build a PC or whichever company you purchased it from, is that a computer used for gaming is not necessarily also a computer used for professional work.

you also entirely missed the part that someone buying a computer like this really, really, and i mean REALLY does not care at all for the ability to play the remake of a 10+ year old title, or read dead redemption. and if they really wanted to, they could install a bootcamp partition and probably do it pretty effectively.

im also going to wager your twitch show doesnt even come up on anyone's radar if you're having to post about it on macrumors.

tl;dr - the extent of your computer knowledge is below basic if you think that the lack of gaming ability has any reflection on the usability or overall value of this machine.
 
For the price of ownership for one of these things, you should be able to game. My gaming PC can do everything this thing can and plus play RDR2, RE2, Demon Souls.

This is a specialized tool for a different job than gaming. Your gaming PC is not going to help you edit a film faster that can make tens of millions at the box office. You wouldn’t likely want a Ferrari if you’re a landscape artist and have to haul soil and trees to a job site.
 
Interesting that a product assembled in and shipped from China, costs a UK buyer £2,000 more for the base Mac Pro and XDR Display (with stand) than it does for a US customer.

#Robbed
This is not true. US customers also pay taxes, but it's not visible in apple.com. European customers pay more thanks to VAT.
 
which is more in line with the small extra profit margin Apple usually adds for markets outside of the US in order to factor in currency value fluctuations.

Plus things like the 2-year consumer rights warranty, e-waste/packaging take-back programs (In some US states, that's a separate tax added), and the higher cost of energy and labor.

I would be very surprised if any person in the market for a Mac Pro, neigh, any grown up in the UK, would struggle to understand the concepts of sales tax or VAT so it seems you are just out to complain and be negative for no apparent reason.

To be fair, problem isn't that he doesn't understand UK taxation, it's that he hasn't been to the US and Canada.
 
For the price of ownership for one of these things, you should be able to game. My gaming PC can do everything this thing can and plus play RDR2, RE2, Demon Souls.
No...it shouldn't but i bet it can run even games...games are orientated for kids so having an gaming pc its clear ..how old are you? Remember you compare an gaming pc with an professional audi/video editing pc
 
Shame assembly for Europe was not done in Cork, Ireland. Many of my older Macs were assembled there from my Power Macintosh 8600 to G5 Quad.

Even custom spec iMacs were assembled there until very recently (or still are?) so sad to see they couldn't make better use of the Cork facility
Still have my Irish-assembled G4 Cube.
 
The base model is not $11k, actually. Plus, for the people this machine is targeted at, it’s actually not as outrageous as everyone says it is. It’s cheaper than some other computers with similar specs, and the build quality and performance are awesome. I wish people would stop complaining about the price, because for people who need this Mac, it’s not bad.

You can explain until you’re blue in the face but types like the one you responded to just don’t get it, or maybe they don’t want to get it. They cannot get their minds around the fact that this Mac Pro is not a consumer machine. It wasn’t design with consumers in mind. It wasn’t designed with so-called prosumers or even lower level professional users in mind. It was designed for high level professionals like movie studios, science based research where extreme number crunching is paramount. Perhaps Apple should have named it Mac Workstation instead. No matter, the disgruntled users who were expecting a tower with slots starting at $1999 will keep pounding away at the “overpriced” mantra as long as they can.
 
And this so-called “pro” computer can’t even play RE2 remake or RDR2. Can’t even use it to stream my Twitch show. My gaming rig DESTROYS this pathetic excuse for a computer.
Macs are known NOT to be gaming computers... obviously you have an agenda towards Apple for some reason. If you have a hard on for a gaming computer, then why don’t you *gasp!* buy an ACTUAL gaming computer.

The Mac Pro was created for professionals, not for amateurs who don’t need the MP as a source of income. Perhaps you should look into a source of income as well, with your free time “gaming.”
 
My guess is they are both built in China, then some get the case cover(or some other part) removed and shipped to the USA. Then they slap the cover back on, and say "it was assembled in the USA". Car manufactures have been doing this for years.

I thought the law states that the majority of the product has to be assembled in country of origin to apply the label. So like, all the individual pieces can be built all over the world but they all have to be assembled in the US to get the label. Correct, or no? I'm curious...
 
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Prices quoted in the U.S are shown without tax as opposed to quoted prices outside the U.S are shown with VAT included. The U.S still has to pay sales tax.

Doesn't stop there, Consumer protection is better than in the US (Longer standard warranty), so add more $$, Vat/tax is also higher in the EU, plenty of other reasons why it's cheaper in the US.
 
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And this so-called “pro” computer can’t even play RE2 remake or RDR2. Can’t even use it to stream my Twitch show. My gaming rig DESTROYS this pathetic excuse for a computer.

Yet you’re still here on these forums talking to us about the Mac Pro, like so many others, letting a computer you don’t want get under your skin...Apple has truly provide the maxim that there is truly no such thing as bad publicity. LOL!
 
No...it shouldn't but i bet it can run even games...games are orientated for kids so having an gaming pc its clear ..how old are you? Remember you compare an gaming pc with an professional audi/video editing pc
I’m 47, not that it matters. My PC is more than capable of A/V. You don’t need Final Cut when Windows has plenty of freeware. YouTubers often use movie maker.
 
I thought the law states that the majority of the product has to be assembled in country of origin to apply the label. So like, all the individual pieces can be built all over the world but they all have to be assembled in the US to get the label. Correct, or no? I'm curious...

I honestly don't know, but at what point to you define a piece? Motherboard, before anything is soldered to it, an entire graphics card with fans screwed to it, or a case with everything snapped in place? If there isn't a law defining a "piece" then its up to interpretation. But what honestly probably happens is they build all the things in China, ship them as separate pieces to the USA, then they assemble everything together. I doubt there is even one "piece" manufactured in the US.
 
Great!! Rest of the world subsidises US MacPro prices even if they are being made in China's dirt cheap labour.
 
Please stop! Clearly you don't understand this machine nor what is it used for so your post is embarrassing.
At your age I would expect that you know better. Clearly has a lot to learn, still.....

I’m 47, not that it matters. My PC is more than capable of A/V. You don’t need Final Cut when Windows has plenty of freeware. YouTubers often use movie maker.
 
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