Please refrain from lying, that's unacceptable. The parts he listed WERE NOT whatever some gamer kid slapped together.
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Please refrain from lying, that's unacceptable. The parts he listed WERE NOT whatever some gamer kid slapped together.
Not true. Also people angry that once again its not the product they were hoping it was going to be. I am one of those people realizing im stuck buying imacs for the foreseeable future.
Except that breakdown is wrong.
There is the Black (?) Magic Keyboard and Mouse Included, $250.
So far all the Pro's has at least 3x3 802.11ac 1700 / 1900 Mbps WiFi Speed, assuming this is what the Mac Pro has included ( doesn't list the speed inside the spec ) and Bluetooth 5.0, that is additional $100.
That prices doesn't include the 4x Thunderbolt 3 Port, which is ~$150 ( depending on chipsets )
The Radeon is actually a Pro Series with X Ending. Using a R580 as base price hardly seems fair, especially when the cost in Pro series are the drivers. ( You can see how Quadro on Nvidia are much more expensive ) Along with Massive Heat Sink, T2 Chip, which in itself is like a Raid Controller for SSD along with encryption. Windows 10 Professional if you bought it from other Vendor. I mean the Windows 10 alone is $200. All of the above is easily another $400.
And that $260 Chassis included in the calculation? I bet its quality wont be anywhere as good as Mac Pro.
Edit: Turns out it really is the W3223 since Apple combine both L2 and L3 cache Numbers. The chip cost $750. Making Linus Number mostly correct.
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That's some real obsfucation there... comparing the sound of a computer that's under a desk to a computer sitting on top of a desk.
How thick was the desk? Was there carpet?
Bottom line: The holey MacPro is the loudest computer they make. But that's to be expected. No marks taken off for noise. Bet it sounds like a jet engine when the 28 core Xeon runs full throttle rendering a big 3D scene for hours.
But that's expected too. No marks taken away. Heat has to get blown out somehow. But this machine will not have anything in common with the word "quiet" when the big Xeon starts rendering.
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OK, whatever some YouTube kid slapped together.
well, at 950'000$ for the base model, I'd have also kept that in a top secret enclosure! 
[doublepost=1559765412][/doublepost]The wheels cost 999$ per wheel.
[doublepost=1559765412][/doublepost]The wheels cost 999$ per wheel.
No it’s not. If you need more storage, simply pay for it.
I don't know how to edit video, music or photos but I'm going to order one so I can open Mail, Safari and Music really fast!
You forgot about support. Just building this thing will take at least a days worth of (what ever profession needs it) time. Depending on the profession, (if even capable of doing so) could be well more that $400 a day. and that's if you get it working with all the drivers and software without ever having an issue after setting it up.
That was just Parts picking cost. i.e The same maths as Linus did, how much would it cost if you were to buy the same parts and assemble it yourself assuming your time is free.
Turns out it isn't really a Rip Off. As the internet has been crying about. You are only paying a few hundred more, for better build quality, craftsmanship, better component selection than you could buy yourself, support, assembly etc.
And the same goes to that Pro XDR Monitor. Assuming it is as good as it is listed, $5K is actually not expensive. I couldn't even find a single monitor that is as good for less than $4K, and they all look very ugly.
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So build your own.
You’re also paying for software, support, security, etc.
And I guess your time is worth $0 and you know exactly what you’re doing, right? Unlikely if your time is worth $0.
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Well the non pro desktop range is pretty impressive and more than capable for the non professional that does the photo and video editing at home. I mean 6 core Mac Mini! I am doing guitar recording on a 2012 MacBook Pro at home, I just can dream how much faster I would be with a Mac Mini. Even the non pro iMac has a 6 core option. If you max it out you can get a really powerful machine for just under $3000 which I see regularly getting used by photographers and other pros. And if you have a bigger budget you can still get the iMac Pro for user $6000.
I like the current desktop Mac lineup. The best Apple had in years.
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I think that the iMac Pro is why the Mac Pro is priced so ridiculously for what you get.
If only Apple would build this with "for mere mortals" components.
This thing is for the HIGHEST-OF-ENDS Video Pros.
The old cheese grater was scalable in all areas, including price.
Hopefully Apple will still build the prosumer machine of our dreams (which basically was the old Mac Pro).
It's simple: a Mac that you can put your own (full size) graphics card, SSD and RAM in it that's not insane like this is.
We wanted a nice Mercedes, not a Bugatti Chiron, as cool and powerful as it is.
EDIT: I don't think the Mac Pro is priced ridiculously, it's ridiculous for me to pay it (regular Joe).
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Haha oh man. MacRumors truly hasn't changed. Also, just looking back, it's crazy to think about how popular the iPod ended up being.
Anyways, I think Apple's moving in the right direction with this new Mac.
I looked this up in macOS dictionary app (not joking) and it came up with this:
Sheela-na-gig | ˈSHēlənəˌɡiɡ | noun a medieval stone figure of a naked female with the legs wide apart and the hands emphasizing the genitals, found in Britain and Ireland.
I assume that's not what you are talking about.
Does he go price out a similarly spaced computer at Dell or HP or even build one with Xeon processors, ECC RAM, and a top of the line SSD or just refer to cores, GHz, RAM, and a SSD?
You want the comparable Dell (that's not as quiet)? Here you go: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...zIjpbeyJJZCI6IlVCVU5UVSJ9XX1dfQ==&cartItemId=
$5979.31 with a similar Radeon, RAM, Xeon (Gold but the benefits over a W are not meaningful), RHEL, etc.
Parts alone cost $3,000? Apple’s legal exposure alone suddenly makes this look like a good deal. Let alone other operational costs. I’m assuming tooling is included with parts? Can’t watch the video right at the moment.
Apple has contradictory specs, on the specs page it say it's a Xeon W but all the cache sizes are wrong. I'm sure its using a Xeon W, it doesn't make sense to use quad socket capable cpu in a single socket motherboard.
I'm pretty sure the new Mac Pro is using the W3223 in the base configuration. The listed 24.5MB cache = L2 of 8MB and L3 of 16.5MB. The other processors in this just released series also match Apple's listed cache sizes when you combine L2 and L3 numbers.
Finally a cohesive counter argument.
However, KEEP IN MIND the prices you list are the ones already marked up. For instance, the Xeon Gold 6234 at $2200, that's the consumer price... you can be 100% sure Apple is not paying that price and then increasing it even more to the consumer.... (well they increase the price to consumers anyway).
So really, it's still overpriced.
Correct, it costs $4,800. Apple has an average net profit margin of about 20%. Apple's profit margins are lower with new products but we'll go with their overall. The 20% factors in services, which have higher profit margins, so the cost to design, manufacture (outsourced), ship, support, etc. for this likely costs at least $5000. Tell us why Apple should sell this for a loss ($3000)?