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Is this an attempt to be funny?

The machine is a beast and very capable. If you can't afford it, my advice is to make more money.

That's the thing I do not get with people making 'fun' of a price. Apple have employees round the world that deal with the analytical side of pricing. They don't just pick a random figure and say "yes, that'll do". There's always a market (when dealing with reputable businesses) for something and just because you are not in the market, doesn't make it a useless overpriced product.
 
Frankly, you can build your own PC with Ryzen and buy a great Samsung monitor at Best Buy for $1000 altogether and it should be good enough for editing movies and scientific research. I cannot imagine any “professional” who’d need this machine.

Plus, this thing can’t play Resident Evil 2 or Red Dead Redemption 2. Not a pro machine. Fact.

You must not have much experience in a professional environment..
 
Is this an attempt to be funny?

The machine is a beast and very capable. If you can't afford it, my advice is to make more money.
 

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So no event and no new iPad Pro this year. Maybe only a memory upgrade on the entry 64gb iPad Pro.
 
Is this an attempt to be funny?

The machine is a beast and very capable. If you can't afford it, my advice is to make more money.

Very capable?

Well, the problem I see is that anyone who gets this is likely to get at least 1, if not 2 Pro Vega II Duo cards. The $6000 base price I think included a crappy, far from "pro" Graphics card and no RAM/Storage/Basic Processor. If the Pro Vega II Duos are around $2800 a piece to compete with the Titan RTX, then it's basically a $12000 machine.
Not counting the upgraded Processors, extra RAM and HD space everyone will opt for since Apple cripples the entry level of everything it makes and gouges for storage/RAM upgrades.

So yes, this is built for a small market, and for rich people and studios, and yes, they can afford it, but please don't think the $6000 base machine can do anything. That is a $2500 PC as far as performance goes. It has the POTENTIAL to get insane performance, but you'll be dropping $15,000 - $18,000 each or more if you are a studio. You could likely build 2-3 PCS with comparable performance for that $15,000, but then you'd need to hire 2-3 more editors. Likely the cachet of the machine will help them charge their customers 20% more per session and they'll make their money back.
 
Not the same processor, not the same memory ECC or the number of memory slots, not the expansion slots, not the same logic board speed. It is like comparing a long haul semi truck to a chevy pickup. Yes they call haul or pull things but not the same amount and you can put on a half a million miles with out replacement or repair.

Yeah. And the reality is "workstation" class hardware has always been obscenely expensive compared to similar desktop hardware. Guys building their gaming rigs seem to miss this all the time.

I don't need the Xeons and I don't care about ECC memory. I'm never going to pay for that kind of hardware. But people need to stop pretending the costs for these components are close to more standard desktop fare.

Apple does not make a consumer grade tower. The Mini and the iMac are the only consumer desktops they still make. In the consumer space they have made it clear for well over a decade that they do not have any interest in the "I want to upgrade my own desktop" crowd to any real degree. And it makes sense because that crowd is a niche crowd and not even kinda the group Apple cares about supporting.

If you're in that group and want macOS, welcome to Hackintosh city. That's your option. Having macOS on whatever computer you desire is not some inalienable right. (And I say this as someone who would love a machine in that space.)
 
I'm interested as to how many people will buy these. They seem laser focused on the hollywood/pro video markets, especially considering the new display. Relatively limited market, even for Apple.


I will be buying 3 full blown units for our video editing facility.....It's the "pro" computer that we have been waiting for years, to replace the aging 2012 5,1's
 
Frankly, you can build your own PC with Ryzen and buy a great Samsung monitor at Best Buy for $1000 altogether and it should be good enough for editing movies and scientific research. I cannot imagine any “professional” who’d need this machine.

Plus, this thing can’t play Resident Evil 2 or Red Dead Redemption 2. Not a pro machine. Fact.

Lets play a game called "Sarcastic or Uninformed"..... Who wants to go first?
 
Does anyone else think they will do a November event for the first time? October is already wasted.
I refuse to believe they will launch all those new products without an event.

Do you remember when, this spring, there was a week when Apple released a new product every day for like three consecutive days? They release new products without events fairly often, actually. The 2018 MacBook Pros are a good example as well.
 
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I will be buying 3 full blown units for our video editing facility.....It's the "pro" computer that we have been waiting for years, to replace the aging 2012 5,1's

Full Blown? What do you think you will be spending per computer?
 
Do you remember when, this spring, there was a week when Apple released a new product every day for like three consecutive days?

Thank you!

I've tried to point that out to a few very loosely informed users here and they either don't remember or start moving goalposts around and claiming that "yeah, but those weren't TOTALLY new products like THIS time"

lmao
Ridiculous..
 
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Time to sell some Amazon stock, maybe 25 shares will get me a mid-grade model?
Depending on the memory configs you might want to think about selling more like 40-50 shares. On the HP Z8, the 768GB option is $56,000, and $112,000 for the 1.5TB. They do discount that by 20% right now though :)
 
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They should sell well for people making money with them, H'Wood, the scientific community, etc. Amortize these machines over 3-4 years and you're paying a few thousand a year. You'll probably pay as much, if not more, for software and services. This also holds true for smaller businesses, plus the resale value of the MP will cut this annual expense considerably.

PCs are cheaper, sure and there are other Macs (Minis, iMacs, etc.) but I'll bet most Mac-based shops are going to have at least one of these beasts. It's been a long, long time coming.


Fully agree, We got our 3 2010 5,1's going on 9 ash years now and they are still going. They were in the $12k range maxed out 2.93 12 core, 128GB of RAM, 10GB optical fiber cards. dying for these new ones to be released, we are a mixed OS facility and just got 3 HP Z8's crazy money....$26k each, but I expect the Macs will long out last the PC's.

Amortized over a 5 year period makes the cost much more palatable to the upper management.
 
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One day, I hope that monitor drops in price. I'm still using my 27" TB monitor - one of the best monitors I've ever owned. Can't even imagine how good this one will be!
 
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