The problem with your argument is that it doesn't make sense; I've already pointed that out to you and you seem to be immune to common sense and logic.
There was never a time Apple had to support DVDs.
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The problem with your argument is that it doesn't make sense; I've already pointed that out to you and you seem to be immune to common sense and logic.
There was never a time Apple had to support DVDs.
It is perhaps an american thing, I don't know, but even though the bottom line is black it doesn't mean anything - many many mistakes can be made even though one makes a lot of money.
Money does not equal not making mistakes. It just means your mistakes are slightly less costly than your success. Apple has always made plenty of mistakes. Costly and less costly. Apple is still run by human beings, last time I checked, so please... spare me.
I'm under the assumption that Apple is run by human beings and you seem to be under the assumption that because Apple is making money, it can do no wrong and always bets right. No way.
That's true, maybe Apple is making tons of financial mistakes and if they didn't, they'd have twice the market worth right now.
But I'd think that would, at least looking at other software companies, a bit of a stretch of imagination, compared to assuming Apple is on the right track, mostly.
Oh btw, I'm not an american.
So you don't know what the fee is. Well H.264 fee is 0 dollars for Apple, you'll be glad to know. They already use it.
Royalty of BD would be per OS sold. Just like the players, why would that be different?
Ok that's it I'm off to bed.
That's true, maybe Apple is making tons of financial mistakes and if they didn't, they'd have twice the market worth right now.
But I'd think that would, at least looking at other software companies, a bit of a stretch of imagination, compared to assuming Apple is on the right track, mostly.
Oh btw, I'm not an american.
Agreed, good night!
They use it because they pay for it. Apple is paying tons of money for H.264 so you can use it on Safari or in Quicktime, same as Microsoft is paying for it and Google is paying for it for Chrome.
QFT. My G5 scores less than 2k. Any current Mac would knock my socks off.. the least of these the current mini tho. If I'm buying into another seven or eight year machine, I'd like to see more than a c2d in it. The reasoning however for not buying a current MP is more about Thunderbolt connectivity for the same price plus a likely cpu bump on the base model for the same price as current base model. Maybe even standard ssd to take advantage of the more powerful cpu and TB capabilities. Why buy now unless I need it today?
**** me I am getting tired of waiting. With no spec details and the potential move away from Nvidia graphics I'm wondering if it's worth holding back?
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Are you talking about the Mini or the Pro?
At the lowest end, I'd think the Mini would have the Sandy Bridge i3 and quite possibly an i5. And quite possibly have 4GB of ram.
At the high end, look at the Xeon chips intel has announced.
For both I think the bump would be worth it. Unless you are looking at the Mini and aren't doing anything that would stress the current Mini.
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Reading the arguments on any forum, it becomes apparent why world peace remains so elusive.
Viva le Mac Pro!
Reading the arguments on any forum, it becomes apparent why world peace remains so elusive.
Viva le Mac Pro!
Blu Ray availability on a computer is not an issue for most people. But it is of course a talking point brought up over and over again by some with an agenda.
btw - Nintendo announced they will not be including DVD or Blu ray playback on the next Wii either.
Most people who really care about having 1080p will have already purchased a player of some sort. Probably a PS3 as it is multipurpose. This is the reason Nintendo gives and it makes sense for Apple too.
Honestly I hav a very good entertainment system and I sometimes find myself streaming a movie from my computer through the AppleTV when I could use the Blu-ray player instead (Blu-ray with digital copy). The reason is that except for group viewings or initial viewings of a movie, I can't be bothered to go drag the disk out. it is just easier to pick up the remote and navigate to the movie.
Don't get me wrong. I like having physical copies of media. I buy CD's instead of digital download for instance. And I buy Blu-ray copies of my favorite movies. But the showing of the high resolution Blu-ray I reserve for special times. I can't be bothered for a movie I've seen before and that I'm watching alone.
The order of importance for me is:
1. Good writing, directing and acting.
2. Surround sound.
3. Video resolution.
btw - Nintendo announced they will not be including DVD or Blu ray playback on the next Wii either.
Most people who really care about having 1080p will have already purchased a player of some sort. Probably a PS3 as it is multipurpose. This is the reason Nintendo gives and it makes sense for Apple too.
Honestly I hav a very good entertainment system and I sometimes find myself streaming a movie from my computer through the AppleTV when I could use the Blu-ray player instead (Blu-ray with digital copy). The reason is that except for group viewings or initial viewings of a movie, I can't be bothered to go drag the disk out. it is just easier to pick up the remote and navigate to the movie.
Don't get me wrong. I like having physical copies of media. I buy CD's instead of digital download for instance. And I buy Blu-ray copies of my favorite movies. But the showing of the high resolution Blu-ray I reserve for special times. I can't be bothered for a movie I've seen before and that I'm watching alone.
The order of importance for me is:
1. Good writing, directing and acting.
2. Surround sound.
3. Video resolution.
Question on Mac Pros vs macbooks for youtube.
Hey all.
Tell me, how would a new top of the line Mac Pro that's about to be debuted soon compare to the average macbook in terms of uploading videos to be rendered for Youtube?
Say you want to upload a 25 minute video from your camera to the new Mac Pro, with thunderbolt and all the trimmings. How long would that upload take with gen1 of thunderbolt?
And then, assuming you have a decently spec-ed Mac pro, how long would a render take?
A friend of mine says it takes her 4 hours to render a video on her macbook for youtube. And a long time for her to even upload from an iphone or digital camera doing video.
Would the new Mac Pros cut down that process time? I want to help her invest in a mac pro if its going to be worth it.
Hey all.
Tell me, how would a new top of the line Mac Pro that's about to be debuted soon compare to the average macbook in terms of uploading videos to be rendered for Youtube?
Say you want to upload a 25 minute video from your camera to the new Mac Pro, with thunderbolt and all the trimmings. How long would that upload take with gen1 of thunderbolt?
And then, assuming you have a decently spec-ed Mac pro, how long would a render take?
A friend of mine says it takes her 4 hours to render a video on her macbook for youtube. And a long time for her to even upload from an iphone or digital camera doing video.
Would the new Mac Pros cut down that process time? I want to help her invest in a mac pro if its going to be worth it.
There's no reason not to support BD on the Mac, it is by far the best way to experience movies, most ubiquitous way to buy, share and sell movies and it is backwards compatible with all the DVDs people have already.
It's a no-brainer and it is quite amusing watching some people twisting themselves into a pretzel in order to excuse or explain away why Apple doesn't support BD playback.
I'm not even saying they have to put the drives into the computers, just support the playback. Though it would be awfully kind of them to allow people to buy BD drives BTO or even include them by default.
Well said. It's only about keeping iTunes HD rentals/sales up. It's pathetic
Nintendo's reasoning may be a bit off. I can see people who only have a Wii and therefore they need an extra box for a DVD player.
As for the PS3 comment. Yes it is multipurpose, however, it's a Sony product. Some of us avoid Sony like the plague.
The obvious response is for Apple to make their Macs more like iToys. Strip down the Macpro of features, decrease the number of internal bays, remove Firewire ports, make it smaller and "cuter", etc.
They have to have something to run their newer softwares on right?
Logic and FCSX are HUGE contenders in the pro markets... I think your WRONG!
As usual... most posters here don't have a clue.
A new Mac Pro?
I'm ready to place my order.
Besides the nice new hardware, it would be affirmation from Apple that the desktop has not been abandoned.
Same here!! My birthday is in August too so this would be Christmas 4 months earlier for me! I hope it happens.
oh man i'm jealous! I'd love a 12 core as well. in fact, I'll be checking out the refurb site once new pros are listed just in case they really drop their prices
i need processing power for these m2vs. my quad 2009 base model just isn't kicking it. doh! still a great machine though.
Would I fell remorse if I buy a iMac in August? My Birthday is the same month?
I'm torn between a Mini or an iMac
Blah blah blah. You're talking in generalizations and wasting reader's time without specifics.
What precisely is the current Mac Pro missing that bothers you so much?
I've looked at other workstations including the HP Z800, Lenovo S, D, and E series and Dell's and AFAIK, the only important differences come down to PCI-e slots, RAM slots, and available pro graphics cards, and as a fact, there isn't even much difference in cost if configured for dual processors.
Yeah, these aren't water cooled gaming machines, and there aren't any Opterons for even more cores, but that's not what Apple is selling either. Knock yourself out if you find a need for an Alienware configuration.
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I, for one, would like a new mini. However, there is a good chance that it'll have Intel integrated graphics, which I don't like. I've been burned by my mini's GMA 950 when I got it. However, it seems like the HD 3000 will perform better, so here's hoping.
I, for one, would like a new mini. However, there is a good chance that it'll have Intel integrated graphics, which I don't like. I've been burned by my mini's GMA 950 when I got it. However, it seems like the HD 3000 will perform better, so here's hoping.
So you think they'll be able to keep cost at or near current levels? Equipped with 4GB RAM? And have Apple give up it's over priced memory upgrades? Highly unlikely. It's $270 to equip a current mini from 2GB to 8GB with Apple when you can get the same 8GB for $85 from Crucial? I hope you're right but am hard pressed to hold out much hope for a real improvement. Apple seems content to keep tossing these mini-upgrades at the buying masses while others are already offering as their low end what Apple is passing off as high end. i3? Whoopee! 4GB? I have 5 year old laptops with more. No blu-ray...really? I hope their is truly an upgrade and prices at or near current levels or otherwise...
Actually, I can think of two things in SL not included in Lion...
Front Row
No Colour Finder sidebar Icons (which drives me nuts)
Launchpad is just a total waste of time in OSX too.
There is simply too many apps on a Mac for them to be organised effectively via Launchpad.
Its even worse if you have Windows Emulation like Parallels, as Launchpad displays all the PC apps too!
Despite Launchpad displaying 40 apps on screen at once on my Mac, it still needs 9 pages to display them - that's an awful lot of trackpad swiping.
It would take an age to organise these into sub folders etc, so it completely pointless and a total gimmick in my opinion.
Works great for my iPhone with 40 or 50 apps, but take that to 400 or so and the existing navigation in OSX beats launchpad hands down and is much quicker and easier to use.
The things most improved in Lion are trackpad gestures, Apple apps like Mail are better and also the ability to go full screen is really nice too, but it's hardly a revolutionary OS.
The iCloud thing might be good too, but they could have easily been added this and the other features to the existing SL OSX if they'd have wanted to.
IOS doesn't translate into a useable Mac OS. Elements of it do, but not as many as you might think and it'll be a long time before IOS & Mac OSX are one of the same if Lion is anything to go by.
I don't know why people are even enjoining the USB 3.0 vs TB argument; once Ivy Bridge chipsets rolls out next year, Apple will be fully supporting both, same as Intel has stated they would.