I always used Applejack in the past for repairing permissions and such... although, I can't verify it works with Leopard: http://applejack.sourceforge.net/#top
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New Mac Pro's - Problems/No Problems
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After 12 days of service, I had one alarming kernel panic on the second day of use, but it's been smooth sailing since. No complaints to be had, except that it's taking a while to getting used to this new keyboard... may switch back to the old one...
My first Mac Pro had problems. it would not see any drive installed in bay 2 properly. firstly I though it was a faulty drive, and tried a few ore. Same result. The Mac would take forever to boot up, SMART would say the drive was unverified, and when it eventually popped up try to copy an 8Mb file from the drive, was told that it would take 2 weeks. Installed the drive in bay 3 and the mac would see it. Looked like bay 2 was dodgy.
Apple replaced the Mac and have had no problem. Don't use sleep or safari. No crashed whatsoever.
Apple replaced the Mac and have had no problem. Don't use sleep or safari. No crashed whatsoever.
I think that's a Leopard issue, not a MacPro issue as I've had that happen on two computers as well. Did some investigating here and found it was a widespread problem, and that basically you need to ignore the estimated time. It will really take 5-10 minutes (it just seems like forever because it's insisting it will take 1 minute). It will look to be frozen and then WHAM! zip through the remaining length of the time bar in no time.
I'm very happy with my new Mac Pro - the only small issue I'm having is that my HP 640 lightscribe drive isn't being recognized.
I've already tried:
Both drives set to cable select (Superdrive works, HP doesn't)
Superdrive set to master, HP set to slave (same result as above)
Next one I'll probably try is Superdrive - cable select, and leave HP on slave
It's a bit frustrating, but otherwise I'm happy with my first Mac, and don't intend on switching back to Windows
-Bryan
I've already tried:
Both drives set to cable select (Superdrive works, HP doesn't)
Superdrive set to master, HP set to slave (same result as above)
Next one I'll probably try is Superdrive - cable select, and leave HP on slave
It's a bit frustrating, but otherwise I'm happy with my first Mac, and don't intend on switching back to Windows
-Bryan
I'm very happy with my new Mac Pro - the only small issue I'm having is that my HP 640 lightscribe drive isn't being recognized.
I've already tried:
Both drives set to cable select (Superdrive works, HP doesn't)
Superdrive set to master, HP set to slave (same result as above)
Next one I'll probably try is Superdrive - cable select, and leave HP on slave
It's a bit frustrating, but otherwise I'm happy with my first Mac, and don't intend on switching back to Windows
-Bryan
Check for bent prongs on your HP drive. Mine wasn't being recognized on CS either, and I unplugged the IDE cable to find that one of my prongs were bent. Bent it back, works perfect. Well, doesn't work now cause my tower of 8-core power just died yesterday. But I will be adding into the new one later tonight.
Darthraige... That sucks. I remember reading the forums and how badly you needed one, but held out. Now this. Ouch, but i hope they don't give you any grief at the apple store...
Mine's on the Fedex truck right now being delivered to me... I hope i don't have issues like this.
Nope, no grief from the Apple Store. They were much more helpful than the people on the phone. Genius Bar and Manager authorized for me to exchange for a brand new one today. Will be picking it up around 5ish.
How long should these take to boot? I feel I am spending too much time on the grey screen with the spinning cog. Once it loads the blue screen, however, it is then up in a flash.
Seems to depend...
Sometimes the boot with the gray screen takes 2-3 seconds, next day it is 2 minutes... Just beats me.. Havent found any kind of formula why it does that.
Well, lets hope that the 10.5.2 update will be pushed tomorrow and resolve a lot of the minor issues.
darthraige - I'm glad to hear they are swapping your rig... I'm hopeful its an isolated instance and others don't have to suffer as you did.
darthraige - I'm glad to hear they are swapping your rig... I'm hopeful its an isolated instance and others don't have to suffer as you did.
I wonder if people having problems all had the same hard drive -- either stock 320 or an upgrade, and vice versa for people with no problems...
Welp, I'm finally on the new MacPro, I feel like it's running a thousand times better. The drive that shipped with my last one was a Western Digital... This one in the new one is an Intel Drive??
Vendor: Intel
Product: ESB2 AHCI
Speed: 3.0 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported
Model: ST3320820AS_P
Well, that model number is a Segate... Intel must be slapping their name on it for one reason or another.
I have always had better luck with Segate over WD... Although I do use a FW800 external WD mybook, so I'm not sure my statement holds any weight
Only having two minor issues:
- DVD player crashing regularly...it's now happened 5 times.
- Power saver and screen saver are not turning on...my screens never sleep.
Hoping 10.5.2 will fix all these.
- DVD player crashing regularly...it's now happened 5 times.
- Power saver and screen saver are not turning on...my screens never sleep.
Hoping 10.5.2 will fix all these.
My only issue i've noticed so far is that sometimes while I'm surfing the web, OS X decides on its own to do the tiling expose, but it doesn't happen often. I assume its just a software issue, so hardware wise I've been good. Also I don't know if anybody else owns Family Guy Volume 4 DVD's, but the menu's on the last disc for me were whack with the OSX DVD player, I had to use VLC instead.
Thanks a lot, I thought it was my machine.
Although, now, for the first time since the week I got it, it rebooted after I put it to sleep...
I'm worried to open it up and ruin a good going!
One thing - my 2 x 500GB WD MYBook Pro hardly ever mount anymore. Not just on the MP, my MacBook running Tiger as well. Through any interface. It's really pissing me off, I've seen other users have had similar issue without resolve. The next time they "decide" to mount I'm backing everything on them up. I'm pretty sure both (at least one) are within 12 months so should be covered for replacement.
One thing - my 2 x 500GB WD MYBook Pro hardly ever mount anymore. Not just on the MP, my MacBook running Tiger as well. Through any interface. It's really pissing me off, I've seen other users have had similar issue without resolve. The next time they "decide" to mount I'm backing everything on them up. I'm pretty sure both (at least one) are within 12 months so should be covered for replacement.
I'm actually using a MS mouse, but it could possibly be the mouse registering a click of the middle scroll button, I never thought about that...
Mac Pro Optical Drive Problem... Isolated Incident?
Hello, this is my first post. Go easy on me.
I ordered my Early 2008 Mac Pro the day it was announced and took delivery a week later. I turned it on and it seemed to work fine until I got a dialog box telling me that the disk in the drive could not be read. I hit eject to confirm that there was no disk in the drive. No disk. Great.
So I inserted my Adobe CS3 installer disk (it was an expensive day), and though it seemed to load slowly, everything installed fine. However, when I inserted an audio CD (it's worth noting here that the CS3 installer is a DVD), it gave me that same dialog box about not being able to read the CD. I hit eject and closed the door again. This time, the CD showed up on the desktop as "Audio CD," which I found peculiar. When I tried to play the tracks in iTunes, it listed the proper number of tracks, but they were untitled and when I tried to play a song, it clicked through each track and stopped once it clicked past the last track.
I spent 2 hours on the phone with AppleCare, ran every diagnostic test possible, and they determined that the optical drive was faulty (no kidding). They made an appointment for me at the 59th Street store in Manhattan to bring the 43-lb. machine I'd had for 4 days in to have its optical drive replaced (anyone familiar with Manhattan knows that hauling this thing anywhere is, to say the least, unpleasant from a logistical standpoint). I dropped it off the evening of the 21st, and got it back today (25th) with a new, properly-functioning optical drive.
I must mention that Apple's service was stellar, both on the phone and in the store (which is an absolute zoo). They offered me a new machine almost immediately. I declined, however, because I had already installed CS3 and figured a (mechanical?) bugaboo in the optical drive would disappear once it was replaced, and the computer was running perfectly otherwise. So here are a few questions:
Aside from the drive being faulty out of the box (and the four days lost to repairing a brand new machine), I'm thrilled with my purchase so far. I installed a 750GB drive in bay 2 for Time Machine backups, and it seems to be doing its thing. The machine runs extremely quiet; it makes my G5 dual processor at work sound like a blender by comparison.
I realize you get what you pay for with free advice, but I'll accept whatever you've got to make me a better Mac Pro user. Thanks.
Hello, this is my first post. Go easy on me.
I ordered my Early 2008 Mac Pro the day it was announced and took delivery a week later. I turned it on and it seemed to work fine until I got a dialog box telling me that the disk in the drive could not be read. I hit eject to confirm that there was no disk in the drive. No disk. Great.
So I inserted my Adobe CS3 installer disk (it was an expensive day), and though it seemed to load slowly, everything installed fine. However, when I inserted an audio CD (it's worth noting here that the CS3 installer is a DVD), it gave me that same dialog box about not being able to read the CD. I hit eject and closed the door again. This time, the CD showed up on the desktop as "Audio CD," which I found peculiar. When I tried to play the tracks in iTunes, it listed the proper number of tracks, but they were untitled and when I tried to play a song, it clicked through each track and stopped once it clicked past the last track.
I spent 2 hours on the phone with AppleCare, ran every diagnostic test possible, and they determined that the optical drive was faulty (no kidding). They made an appointment for me at the 59th Street store in Manhattan to bring the 43-lb. machine I'd had for 4 days in to have its optical drive replaced (anyone familiar with Manhattan knows that hauling this thing anywhere is, to say the least, unpleasant from a logistical standpoint). I dropped it off the evening of the 21st, and got it back today (25th) with a new, properly-functioning optical drive.
I must mention that Apple's service was stellar, both on the phone and in the store (which is an absolute zoo). They offered me a new machine almost immediately. I declined, however, because I had already installed CS3 and figured a (mechanical?) bugaboo in the optical drive would disappear once it was replaced, and the computer was running perfectly otherwise. So here are a few questions:
1. Does anyone know what could have caused this? How would it read one format and not the other? Forgive my naivete; while I play my computer like a piano, I have no idea how it all actually works (which is probably why I like Macs).
2. Now that the drive has been replaced and is functioning properly, are there any recurring problems that may result? Metaphorically speaking, did replacing the drive pull the dandelion out by its roots, or did it just pop off the head?
3. Should I have said "yes" to the new machine offer? My feeling was that it was better to just replace the drive and not accept a new machine that could end up having some of the other problems I'd read about but didn't currently experience.
4. Is 4 days a long time for that repair? I suspect it is, but consider that it's a New York store with outrageous traffic. I guess the question should be: Is 4 days an outrageously long time for that kind of repair?
5. The optical drive is not serviceable by the user, right? The AppleCare guy flatly refused to ship a replacement drive, even after my lamenting the cab fare and downtime that would result from a trip to the store.
6. (Sort of sneaking this one in here...) Does anyone else have an NEC monitor with their Mac Pro? I've got the LCD2470WNX (black) and it's a beautiful piece, but the brightness is truly extraordinary. When I first sat in front of it, I felt like that dude with the glasses in Raiders of the Lost Ark whose face melts off. Maybe I'm just not used to it. By the way, the 15" flat-panel iMac I replaced looks pretty funny next to this widescreen 24" monitor!
Aside from the drive being faulty out of the box (and the four days lost to repairing a brand new machine), I'm thrilled with my purchase so far. I installed a 750GB drive in bay 2 for Time Machine backups, and it seems to be doing its thing. The machine runs extremely quiet; it makes my G5 dual processor at work sound like a blender by comparison.
I realize you get what you pay for with free advice, but I'll accept whatever you've got to make me a better Mac Pro user. Thanks.
I realize you get what you pay for with free advice, but I'll accept whatever you've got to make me a better Mac Pro user. Thanks.
Welcome to MacRumors. I, personally, would have taken the new machine. 4 days for a single drive swap out is weird. Other things to keep an eye out for are: When the computer is asleep for a while, then awaking it, it restarts. Also watch out for anything you click on in the dock locking up and freezing computer. I was having major issues with mine and finally got a new one out of it. But trust me, you will love this machine. It's the best... Ever.
I wish that was the case, but all the pins are exactly where they should be...it's like the drive is just incompatible with my Mac Pro or something
I guess I could try my Sony drive from my PC, but I really wanted the Lightscribe support...
-Bryan