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New MacBook Air, 13-Inch MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini With M1 Chip Available to Order, Launch Next Week

Really seems like you are getting a lot compared to previous generations. The entire lineup getting the same CPU/GPU is huge (Air same, Pro different but same across the pro lineup, etc)
 
Keyboard? Apple Fixed MacBook keyboard already broken again.. Hope no one has to deal with Butterfly again..
 
adith27 said:
I wish Apple offered some sort of upgrade program for people who want to upgrade their 2020 MacBooks to the Apple Silicon MacBooks. I just bought a MacBook Pro in June only because I had to!
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Try eBay - you'd get more for your laptop by far than Apple would give you. Apple typically offers me 1/5th the price I get on eBay. My hope is there will be enough people who really need x86 to prop up resale for awhile
 
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Serban55 said:
Yes, bec the 13" MBP is the base one, that will replace the Intel 2 ports MBP 13"
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I don't understand if they are planning on releasing a higher spec one. It seems bizarre that they wouldn't release it at the same time.
 
Sethal said:
Those Ram prices though.
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Since the Unified Memory RAM is now integrated onto on the M1 Chip Die, the RAM is "baked in" and not upgradeable from what it seems. You either buy a M1 Chip with 8GB or 16GB on the Apple Silicon M1 chip die.
 
mike... said:
That's just now how this works though. If you use software that needs lots of RAM, or run virtual machines, then you need RAM. It's that simple.
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Give the 8GB/second SSD a chance and see how usable it is. A lot of my data gets swapped to disk even though I have ample free GBs left. I admit, if you really need to random access all that data it can be a problem... But that's a reason for the Macbook Pro.
 
Now is all about "Apps". No more "software" and "programs" terminology "ever"....I still fear future lockdown on App Store only software.
Tightly integration between hardware and software...possibly meaning future versions and features of MacOS will be hardware dependent. Goodbye long life MacBooks for "ever"... welcome to "buy a new one together with an iPhone every two years" or eat dust...

Some things are exciting, but I remain skeptical until I see performance and how "apps" vendor's support will ride this.

I won't go into ram and ports limitations...maybe M1 handles it differently. i.e. with VMs and dynamic memory...
 
davie18 said:
Who needs more thasn 16gb on apple's entry level laptops??

Surely if you need more than 16gb of ram, then you wouldn't be getting the entry level specs in all other ways.

You can still buy a brand new macbook with 32gb of ram with the i5, which i assume is more powerful than the M1? It is a bit odd if the m1 is more powerful, given than the i5 MBPs are significantly more expensive
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I agree in terms of entry-level Macbook Air, but in terms of the Macbook Pro and Mac Mini, 16 is pretty sad. I would expect 32GB if not 64GB especially with the MacMini.
 
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Well well well, First of all, we are so lucky :)
- We should all be thankful for Apple including a charger
- we are entering 2021 and the base macbook pro model comes with an 8GB RAM to upgrade +200$ :).
- Two Thunderbolt / USB 4 ports, where are the other two for the more expensive customised mac?
- No edge to edge screen, no more ports, no OLED screen, I am not mentioning the magsafe cause Apple leadership buried it long time ago.
Need to be more patient....
 
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jdiamond said:
Give the 8GB/second SSD a chance and see how usable it is. A lot of my data gets swapped to disk even though I have ample free GBs left. I admit, if you really need to random access all that data it can be a problem... But that's a reason for the Macbook Pro.
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This will drastically increase the wear on the SSD and result in its early death. I have a 16GB MBP right now and if I'm working hard it can end up swapping over 200GB a day! Luckily the SSD is replaceable so I don't care, but I certainly would on a new Mac.
 
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mike... said:
This will drastically increase the wear on the SSD and result in its early death. I have a 16GB MBP right now and if I'm working hard it can end up swapping over 200GB a day! Luckily the SSD is replaceable so I don't care, but I certainly would on a new Mac.
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Excellent point. :)
 
macduke said:
Yeah I was excited about this but now I don't like the direction this is going.

Maybe less RAM will be fine like how the iPhone gets by with less RAM compared to Android just fine. But also the iPhone can't multitask like the Mac, so…

These CPU speeds are crazy but they've about ruined it with these limitations. Are the 16" MBP going to have integrated graphics too? What about the iMac and Mac Pro? We gonna have $50K Mac Pros with 64GB RAM caps? LOL.

The Air is the only device that looks reasonable to me right now, but that one only comes with 256GB SSD to start and has a 7-core GPU instead of the 8-core in the higher end model. But for what it is, 16GB RAM is probably fine for maxing it out, but then at that price, you might as well get the MacBook Pro.

The more I think about it, the more I don't like any of this. The CPUs on paper sound great, but everything else seems like a bit of a cluster. And there's not even a hardware redesign and the same old 720p cameras.
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Looks like a joke to me unless you have basic needs. Take these “5x faster than best selling laptop” with a grain of salt. Say what you want to say. No need to intentionally mislead.

These are definitely aimed at average non techie users. The whole presentation was nauseating to be honest.
 
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Not sure why everyone is disappointed at these Mac. These are all lower ends Macs. Not to defend apple but this is a good batch to update. Remember there are on uncharted territory here. There are limitations with the chips hence only 2 TB ports and 16gb of ram caps. To compensate they made the storage faster. Remember these are not "Pro" machines, despite getting tremendous performance boost. I think the iMac, and higher MBP with have M1X processor which would be the next class up. They do this with the iPads and iPad pros. We also have to look at 4 think, Storage speed, CPU, GPU, and Ram. Collectively they = performance. we can't just look at specs. Its about real world performance. Considering how quickly the M1 can process, Ram might be used differently in the sense that it's not a resource hog.
 
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mannyvel said:
The air is a good deal. I'm leery about the 16gb cap in the Mini, mainly because a lot of Apple's stuff is memory-hungry. iTunes/music uses 750mb by itself. Then the two AMP processes are another 600MB. Maybe they fixed that on big sur.
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Apple is going to have to find a way to educate you people on the difference between RAM on Intel and RAM on Apple Silicon or they're going to miss out on like 14 sales.
 
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