Sneakz
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Again, incorrect. i7 620M isn't faster than either of its quad cousins just because it clock speed is higher. It's missing two freakin' cores.
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The 720 showed up as 8 cores, yes, due to the HT, it was a quad core processor though. The 620s will run 4 threads, 2 cores with HT.
Sneakz
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they're not faster. the new MBPs are only 2 cores, compared to the QMs, which are quads
Here are the specs:
Intel® Core™ i7-720QM processor (1.60GHz) - 4 Cores /8 threads/6MB cache/45 nm
Intel® Core™ i7-820QM processor (1.73GHz) - 4 Cores /8threads/8MB cache/45 nm
the supposed new MBP: Intel® Core™ i7-650M processor (2.66GHz) - 2 Cores/4 threads/4MB cache/32 nm
So, basically the supposed new MBP is actually the higher end of the Core i7 processor because it uses the latest processors that are just 32nm wide (which was built on the 45nm and 65nm processors).
Source: http://www.intel.com/consumer/products/processors/corei7-specs.htm
Intel® Core™ i7-720QM processor (1.60GHz) - 4 Cores /8 threads/6MB cache/45 nm
Intel® Core™ i7-820QM processor (1.73GHz) - 4 Cores /8threads/8MB cache/45 nm
the supposed new MBP: Intel® Core™ i7-650M processor (2.66GHz) - 2 Cores/4 threads/4MB cache/32 nm
So, basically the supposed new MBP is actually the higher end of the Core i7 processor because it uses the latest processors that are just 32nm wide (which was built on the 45nm and 65nm processors).
Source: http://www.intel.com/consumer/products/processors/corei7-specs.htm
the 720 is very fast. They are placing that processor in the "performace" bracket, the 620 arrandale chip is labeled as a "mainstream" chip.
ahh, hope this happens. only speculated getting a mbp 2 days ago!!
got till march 29th before i commit to anything.
hopefully theyupdate the 13"😀
got till march 29th before i commit to anything.
hopefully theyupdate the 13"😀
Sneakz
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Gotcha. I didn't know the 720QM was quad-core.
Those are the older Clarksfield 45nm ones though. Based on the Nehalem. Released Sept 2009
The new MBP uses the 32nm Arrandale. Based on the Westmere. Released Jan 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...2Arrandale.22_.28standard_voltage.3B_32_nm.29
So it's actually the upper end.
I got a new midrange MBP yesterday to appease myself.. I've got 14 days for the exchange at BB for the new model. Silver members don't have to pay the restocking fee. :-D I am really hopeful for a refresh.
Chris
Chris
I did fix the error (happened in between my copy/paste fiasco), just so you know, there was another error with the clock speed, i fixed that as well. Thank you for catching it! 🙂
jpefjr
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Nope -
the supposed new MBP: Intel® Core™ i7-620M processor (2.66GHz) - 2 Cores/4 threads/4MB cache/32 nm
Ahhhh, nope. The supposed new MBP is actually the HIGHEST end of the Core i7 Arrandale mobile processor.
it would be awesome if they used the clarksfield, it is a very fast chip, although i am sure heat with the aluminum unibody case would have been a major issue.
This is great news! Finally, some new rumors on the possibility of new MBPs *very* soon. Can't wait to hear more...
Sneakz
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OP, put this link in the first post to relieve the Geekbench's poor servers. http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Y9i2tpljiwEJ:browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/210968+Mac-F22589C8&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk
Sorry about the error, i missed the obvious part (32 nm), i had copied/pasted everything, so did not even check it out myself. You are right!
Source:
A nanometer (nm) is one-billionth of a meter. The transistors on Intel’s latest processors are just 32nm wide, while our previous generation processors are built on 45nm and 65nm architectures. This allows transistors to be packed more densely, leak less energy, produce less heat and switch faster, which leads to processors that run faster, use less power, and are more energy-efficient. It also means new features can be squeezed onto processors, so computer makers can focus on things like extending battery life, creating ever-sleeker designs and putting new wireless capabilities into devices. Lastly, it means Intel can keep bringing you better performance at relatively the same or even lower prices over time
http://www.intel.com/Consumer/Products/Processors/corei7.htm
Source:
A nanometer (nm) is one-billionth of a meter. The transistors on Intel’s latest processors are just 32nm wide, while our previous generation processors are built on 45nm and 65nm architectures. This allows transistors to be packed more densely, leak less energy, produce less heat and switch faster, which leads to processors that run faster, use less power, and are more energy-efficient. It also means new features can be squeezed onto processors, so computer makers can focus on things like extending battery life, creating ever-sleeker designs and putting new wireless capabilities into devices. Lastly, it means Intel can keep bringing you better performance at relatively the same or even lower prices over time
http://www.intel.com/Consumer/Products/Processors/corei7.htm
Wehrwolf
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FWIW, our institutional computer store is having a unusual rash of Apple related sales. $50 to $100 off on all current MBP models (Macbook not part of the sale), and an additional 6% off list price on the 16th of this month. (a Tuesday)
Possibly trying to clear out old stock before an anticipated release? My guess is that the new models will have a lead time so they won't be widely available initially. It would be in a retailer's best interest to take advantage of that time and offer any old stock at discounted prices.
Damn...and I was hoping to get at least 6 months of use out of this 13" before trading it and my Mac Pro up to a high end MBP.
Possibly trying to clear out old stock before an anticipated release? My guess is that the new models will have a lead time so they won't be widely available initially. It would be in a retailer's best interest to take advantage of that time and offer any old stock at discounted prices.
Damn...and I was hoping to get at least 6 months of use out of this 13" before trading it and my Mac Pro up to a high end MBP.
After thinking about it, using the 620m might actually be better for those who plan on using the MBP mostly on battery. From what I've heard, the QMs have an issue where they stay at their default frequency and run on one core when they are unplugged. The 620m won't be affected by that, because their default is at 2.66hz, much higher than the default frequencies of the 720qm and the 820qm.