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In his newsletter this week, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said the initial version of macOS Ventura launching on Monday, October 24 will include support for new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models, which he expects to be released in the "near future." The oft-accurate reporter said the new MacBook Pro models will be available with M2 Pro and M2 Max chip options, but he believes there will be minimal other changes to the laptops.
Even though we know these are 2023, he’s still doing the “"Never give up – never surrender” with these rumors.
 


With this week's announcements of new iPad Pro, iPad, and Apple TV models out of the way, attention now turns to the Mac. Rumors suggest Apple plans to launch new high-end MacBook Pro and Mac mini models with M2 series chips later this year.

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In his newsletter this week, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said the initial version of macOS Ventura launching on Monday, October 24 will include support for new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models, which he expects to be released in the "near future." The oft-accurate reporter said the new MacBook Pro models will be available with M2 Pro and M2 Max chip options, but he believes there will be minimal other changes to the laptops.

As for the Mac mini, Gurman has previously claimed that new models with both M2 and M2 Pro chip options were in development.

At this point, it seems likely that the new Macs will be announced in November with press releases on the Apple Newsroom site. As noted by Gurman, Apple has launched new Macs in November multiple times in recent years, including the original 16-inch MacBook Pro in 2019 and the first three Macs with the M1 chip in 2020.

The current 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with the M1 Pro and M1 Max chips were released in October 2021 and featured a complete redesign with a notch in the display and additional ports like HDMI, MagSafe, and an SD card reader. Apple last updated the base model Mac mini with the M1 chip in November 2020, and it continues to sell higher-priced Intel configurations with Core i5 and Core i7 processor options.

As for the Mac Pro, Gurman now believes that the high-end desktop tower will not be updated with Apple silicon chips until 2023. He has previously reported that the next Mac Pro will be available with M2 Ultra and M2 Extreme chips. The next MacBook Air, 13-inch MacBook Pro, and 24-inch iMac models are also expected to launch next year.

Article Link: New MacBook Pro and Mac Mini With M2 Pro Chips Likely to Launch in November
M2 Pro Mini with HDMI 2.1 Deal,
M2 Pro Mini with HDMI 2.0 No deal.
 
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Whats the difference between Ultra/Max/Extreme? It seems we are having the same issue that Pirelli had in F1 when they had super soft, ultra soft, hyper soft and no one knew which was better.
Max one CPU, Ultra two CPUs, Extreme 4CPUs. It's not hard.
 
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I do quite a bit of very high computation work. I tend to max out my Studio Ultra for longer than I feel safe red lining it. On top of that, there is always a small chance that the Pro will have the ability to host PCI-e cards.

What are you doing that's maxing out the Ultra? I'm barely maxing out my base spec M1 Pro from image AI work.
 
Attached storage bites the big pickle when it comes to travel. It's also not that fun when editing 8k video or such.

As opposed to paying more than your travel costs to pretty much anywhere to pay up for Apple's internal storage?

And if one is editing 8K video, you need backups anyway. I would suggest some fast m.2 RAID-0 externals... probably 2 or 3 of them. These big storage "dongles" are likely to take up much less space than a whole computer or the camera being used to shoot that 8K video.

Not putting Apple down here. I purchased Studio Ultra with 8TB, paying the tremendous Apple tax for that storage. However, OP was sweating coming up with $8K for a new Mac and iPad because they were running out of storage. There are great options to solve that particular problem for a fraction of $8K, whether they are editing 8K video or not. If OP has no room in their travel bag for that dongle(s), a fraction of $8K will rent them a whole lot of cloud storage until they can get back home and free up the space to a NAS or external there.
 
Do we know any new specs of the coming M2 14”&16” MBP from the macOS Venture RC?

HDMI 2.1?
120 Hz on external displays?
MagSafe iPhone holder on the back of the display?
 
If the new Mini can do 3 monitors, I'm in.

I don't know why Apple has such a hard freaking time with monitors. You'd think the most basic part of a computer, the display, would be simple in 2022. Yet most of the new Macs can only do 2 screens for some stupid reason. And here my 2018 Mini is still doing 3.

Even that has been a challenge though. Virtually EVERY OS update breaks my monitors and I'm playing whack-a-mole unplugging and plugging them in to get all 3 working again.

10 year old Windows box, never had an issue at all with 3 monitors. Apple can't seem to figure it out.
 
What are you doing that's maxing out the Ultra? I'm barely maxing out my base spec M1 Pro from image AI work.
Mostly computational models of viral propagation in a very large population.
As opposed to paying more than your travel costs to pretty much anywhere to pay up for Apple's internal storage?

And if one is editing 8K video, you need backups anyway. I would suggest some fast m.2 RAID-0 externals... probably 2 or 3 of them.

Not putting Apple down here. I purchased Studio Ultra with 8TB, paying the tremendous Apple tax for that storage. However, OP was sweating coming up with $8K for a new Mac and iPad because they were running out of storage. There are great options to solve that particular problem for a fraction of $8K, whether they are editing 8K video or not.
You can backup to slow storage that fits in your laptop bag. I guess you could edit on the same storage, but it would not be fun. (Actually, backing up that kind of storage is not fun. You tend to not backup as often as you should because, it's just too slow.)
 
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If the new Mini can do 3 monitors, I'm in.

I don't know why Apple has such a hard freaking time with monitors. You'd think the most basic part of a computer, the display, would be simple in 2022. Yet most of the new Macs can only do 2 screens for some stupid reason. And here my 2018 Mini is still doing 3.

Even that has been a challenge though. Virtually EVERY OS update breaks my monitors and I'm playing whack-a-mole unplugging and plugging them in to get all 3 working again.

10 year old Windows box, never had an issue at all with 3 monitors. Apple can't seem to figure it out.
I have four monitors on my Studio and it works great. (Actually, three at the moment. I needed extra space for work.)
 
Probably just as underwhelming as the iPad pro upgrade. You're better off buying an M1 Pro while still available as the new M2 Pros are likely to get a price bump.
 
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Show me M.2 RAID 0 that will fit in my laptop bag. Make sure it has enough to store that much data.

Do your own search. I perceive anything I might find for you will be judged "too big" or "too slow" or whatever else to rule it out.

Again, OP- who is not you- was sweating spending $8K for new Mac + iPad "because storage was short." They said nothing about editing 8K video. So they may not need M.2 RAID boxes but something simple to hold their old documents and free up some internal space.
 
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